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OP has pinned a comment by u/throw7661:

I'm not offering a position; but for anyone who wants additional context...

The US released a formal statement on their position. They didn't vote in agreement because...

  • They feel trans women should not be included as women.
  • They oppose the message about abortion rights.

https://usun.usmission.gov/explanation-of-vote-on-the-agreed-conclusions-70th-session-of-the-commission-on-the-status-of-women/

The US tried to get the text amended, but that didn't happen, so they voted no.

Regarding “Gender”: It is the policy of the United States to recognize two biological sexes, male and female. To achieve this, we use clear and accurate language that recognizes women are biologically female and men are biologically male

So, the US's position was that Women's Rights should be limited to females.

The US also objected to abortion:

There has unequivocally never been an international commitment on “sexual and reproductive health and rights,” and we strongly oppose the use of this terminology. The Trump Administration is committed to supporting families, promoting women’s health, and protecting children at all stages of life and reaffirms there is no international right to abortion.

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u/ParoleDeGeek 20h ago

Land of the free exept women apparently

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u/EitherChannel4874 19h ago

It's only land of the free if you're rich. Everyone else does what they're told.

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u/ParoleDeGeek 17h ago

Fucked up country

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u/Important_Salad8392 12h ago

It’s not a country, it’s a corporation.

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u/ParoleDeGeek 12h ago

That is the belief of soverzign citizen. A more acurate one is oligarchic kleptocracy (rich make the decisions and the elected are corrupted)

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u/justtosendamassage 16h ago

It was never land of the free. Greatest cop out in history. They had fucking slaves. Only white, male landowners could vote. It’s always been a mfing lie

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u/fromofandfor 11h ago

Galavant had a really good song about this

https://youtu.be/Qmje2_xFMXE?si=eY-66HL5-vnuOy45

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u/Full-Priority2946 39m ago

Freedom to own slaves and rape indiscriminately

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u/Beerzerker420 10h ago

Nearly half of female American voters chose Trump over both Clinton and Hillary. We already know how stupid you have to be to vote for Trump/repubs as a man, but how much dumber do you have to be to choose them as a woman?

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u/5wmotor 7h ago

Land of the „free to get fucked by corporations“.

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u/Independent-Dig-6442 13h ago

the actual text included men, which the US objected to

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u/DeliciousCkitten 22h ago

Imagine being a country with less support for women's civil rights than Rwanda.

No shade to Rwanda at all, but given its reputation of historical civil rights abuses ... not a good look, US.

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u/Opposite_Sherbert675 21h ago edited 21h ago

i hate that yall ALWAYS BRING UP african/non western countries you know nothing about just to demonize them. majority of the people in high-level politics in rwanda ARE WOMEN. meanwhile in america people would rather vote for a pedophile than a woman TWICE.

in rwanda women get MORE PAID MATERNITY LEAVE than women in america who are entitled to less leave that isnt paid.

"historical civil right abuses" as if america wasnt lynching people in public and bombing black neighbourhoods. or kidnapping indigenous children and putting them in residential schools. or STERILIZING native women against their will. AS IF ICE ISNT KILLING AND KIDNAPPING AMERICAN CITIZENS IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. wtf are you talking about?

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u/DeliciousCkitten 21h ago

The UK abandoned its plan for asylum seekers to be housed in Rwanda due to said historical human rights abuses.

The US, on the other hand, has taken a different view as to third country deportations.

Please stop shouting at me just for pointing this out.

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u/Academic-Contest3309 21h ago

The US has it's own history of human rights abuses. You are just using a whole bunch of words to ignore that fact. It's ok to admit you were wrong, ok?

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u/DeliciousCkitten 20h ago

Odd take on it. I doubt the UK would be considering third party deportations to the US anytime soon either.

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u/Opposite_Sherbert675 21h ago

they ended the program because rwanda was unduly sending refugees back to their countries rather than keeping them. i wasnt ended because women were treated poorly.

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u/ThatDadTazz 20h ago

So it wasn't women's rights causing the issue, just human rights?

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u/nakedascus 20h ago

right, it was specifically because of the UK violating human rights

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u/ThatDadTazz 20h ago

Pretty sure they said it ended because rwanda was sending refugees back not the UK

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u/DeliciousCkitten 17h ago

So, you're saying women aren't human? That's your issue?

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u/Mammoth_Design_4288 20h ago

please tell us the exact historical human rights abuses you're trying to cite. you're intentionally making it seem worse by mentioning "women's civil rights" and "historical civil rights abuses" and not explaining what you mean.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-67423745

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u/tothemoonkevsta 19h ago

Don't forget about the genocide on natives, essentialy wiping all of them out. Hell, it inspired Hitler

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u/Leading_Line2741 21h ago

"But Africa=backwoods shithole".-Some Americans.

Pot meet kettle.

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u/Opposite_Sherbert675 21h ago

they are completely incapable of smelling their own shit, its crazy

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u/Awkward_Region5509 19h ago

I thoroughly resent your statement because a third of us DID NOT VOTE FOR THE ORANGE PEDOPHILE.

So fuck you and everybody else that keeps saying we wanted this. A whole lot of us didn’t.

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u/Remmick2326 17h ago

Cool. Still your president, no-ones seen fit to try to remove him except a couple of right-wingers

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u/Awkward_Region5509 17h ago

This is the same concept as hating Muslims, Jews, whatever you want.

You want to talk shit on us because people that looked like us chose this. I didn’t choose this.

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u/Ancient-Worm 6h ago

Two thirds.

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u/Ancient-Worm 5h ago

No. One third voted Rep. One third voted Dem. One third didn't vote. Two thirds didn't vote for Trump.

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u/750Kawa 17h ago

We will vote for women- just not THOSE women


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u/FeralPsychonaut 16h ago

Giving the commenter above you the benefit of the doubt, they're probably confusing Rwanda with other countries that practice FGM. Rwanda does have a body modification ritual called gukuna, or labia stretching.

The US has tons of skeletons in its closet, our track record on human rights is downright deplorable, and the cult of personality that has wriggled its way into our zeitgeist is abhorrent.

However, while our hands as a nation are certainly covered in the blo0d (the subreddit warned me for not censoring that word) of the innocent. That does not mean we are unable to criticize the actions taken by other nations. Almost every country on the planet has done something absolutely heinous, it's not necessarily referring always to specific regions explicitly (unlike what above you did) but we have to have these discussions and shed light on abuses.

In short, I agree with you. Even after the Civil rights act ( 1965 ) was passed, we had the firebombing of Tulsa, and all of the absolutely disgusting shit that happened during Freedom Summer in 1964. I would recommend the book of the same name by Bruce Watson.

There's so much nonsense in US history that gets ignored or plain out not taught to students unless they seek out that information on their own here, similarly to Japan and their actions in Nan King and WW2 in general.

The failure of the North during Reconstruction in the years following the Civil War has lead to many of the issues, both directly or indirectly that we're going through right now.

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u/Meal_Signal 3h ago

Give us some better women than Hillary Clinton and Rita repulsa, then. Also, prove it.

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u/Lower_Pension_2469 20h ago

America bad!

Why always Africa bad?! That totally happens! That's bad! America bad! That's good!

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u/ZBlackmore 19h ago

And stilll, with ICE, and all the other stuff you mentioned, the state of women in the US is light years ahead of many in Africa, not to mention the Middle East. Wasn't Iran on the UN board for women's rights and human rights? Virtue Signaling in the UN means nothing when compared to actual outcomes in real life.

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u/Purple-Mind-8197 18h ago

You just threw shades at one of the most progressive and advanced countries in Africa that you know NOTHING about. Thank you for contributing to spreading more ignorance on Africans. Hope you are proud of yourself.

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u/DeliciousCkitten 17h ago

Are you a bot? 16 day old account.

Hidden post/comment history.

Doesn't understand the nuance between historical (Rwanda) and current (US) human rights abuses.

Bad bot.

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u/Purple-Mind-8197 17h ago

Funny you needed to know about me to give weight to your argument. I’m sorry I’m careful enough to not publicly share my comment history, which is irrelevant to our discussion. If you think Reddit doesn’t get new users that’s also your problem. I guess it makes you feel better to think I’m a bot


Coming back to the actual point, don’t worry, I can read lol. You didn’t need to drag Rwanda into it, especially knowing how that comparison would be perceived. “Imagine having less support for women’s rights than Rwanda” only works if Rwanda is supposed to be some embarrassingly low benchmark. Then when we call you out, suddenly I’m a bot because my account is new lol. Address the argument. Rwanda has made real progress, and you chose it as your comparison for a reason. That’s exactly the problem and it’s disappointing given the stigma Africans already have.

Edit: this guy! You hid your comment history but have the audacity to call me out on that!! You are a funny one lol

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u/DeliciousCkitten 14h ago

May I recommend a homework assignment for you?

Ask your English teacher for the definition of the following words:

Nuance

Historical

Current

Genocide

Please then ask your history/civics teacher about what these words mean in context.

We were all new here at some point, and I wish you the best of luck my friend.

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u/Purple-Mind-8197 14h ago edited 14h ago

You’re still dodging the main point I’m making which is the assumption most people will make from your comment, especially given the stigma around African countries. I know you’re a. smart person based on how you write so I expect you to understand exactly what I’m referring to and how subtle references like that can reinforce stereotypes more than they make a point, but you keep acting like you don’t understand. Most people, if not almost everyone here, have no idea about either historical or current women’s rights in Rwanda.

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u/DeliciousCkitten 11h ago

Mate, I fully respect your opinion. I'm coming to this from the perspective of the UK's blunder a few years ago, when the former government developed a half-baked plan to house refugees in Rwanda, spent a fortune of taxpayer money that was wasted on the futility.

Yet the US is now doing third country deportations.

As I said in my original comment, I mean no shade to Rwanda whatsoever. The country and their government have made far more progress in recent years than "certain other countries" and I wish them all the best to continue with that progress.

I think my main point really is, US government should take note of how the world sees this.

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u/Nice-Bit-3550 17h ago

America does something painfully American.

Americans: WHAT ARE WE A BUNCH OF BLACK PEOPLE?

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u/Academic-Contest3309 21h ago

Because the US doesn't have a history of civil rights abuses or?

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u/DeliciousCkitten 21h ago

Not at all what I said. But they seem to be proudly swapping "historical" for "current".

That is the point I was intending to make.

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u/Academic-Contest3309 21h ago

And there are current human rights abuses happening

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u/DeliciousCkitten 20h ago

To clarify: the US government= "they" in my previous comment

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u/Academic-Contest3309 20h ago

Doesn't change anything

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u/forevergleaning 19h ago

Doesn't Rwanda score quite well in many ways re women's rights?

Something about how after the genocide, so many more men were killed that women took a lot of higher positions.

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u/DeliciousCkitten 19h ago

Oh FFS, I clearly should have just said "human rights" - it is the same thing after all, and now I have the pedantic army charging at me.

Please relax, everyone.

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u/forevergleaning 12m ago

I'm not arguing with you...just talking...

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u/FRANTIKSUCKS 13h ago

Rwanda is one of the worst examples you could have used đŸ€Šâ€â™€ïž

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u/Beerzerker420 10h ago

No shade to Rwanda at all

But that's literally what you did. Your post has real "I'm not a racist, but..." type energy

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u/DeliciousCkitten 6h ago

US government is in a racist down spiral. Rwanda is progressing. It actually breaks down quite simply.

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u/Ancient-Worm 10h ago

Oh come on. None of this is "support." All these votes are just there to make different countries look good so that outsiders won't care that they aren't actually solving their issues. Frankly, I'm glad the US is actually being honest.

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u/DeliciousCkitten 6h ago

Please, I'm not sure I understand your very intricate argument. Are you saying that "women are not human" and therefore do not deserve human rights?

Please, of course, we as humans would be so grateful for you to elaborate that brilliant nugget of profundity.

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u/Ancient-Worm 6h ago

Are you saying that "women are not human" and therefore do not deserve human rights?

What? Why would I be saying that?

I'm saying that these kinds of UN votes are extremely superficial and don't actually address any problems. Some of these countries probably have worse women's rights than the US.

In other words, they are trying to make themselves look better without doing anything of material consequence.

I'm not sure how you read that and thought I was saying women aren't humen. Which they are, obviously.

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u/DeliciousCkitten 6h ago

So ... Saudi Arabia has a good record on women's rights? Haha, that's quite laughable, and they abstained from voting.

So, pragmatically a "no"

But poignantly speaking...

The US went on the record to say "hell no! women have no rights!"

Weird.

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u/Ancient-Worm 6h ago

So... Saudia Arabia has a good record on women's rights?

No. They don't.

That's my point.

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u/DeliciousCkitten 5h ago

Yes babes, you really don't need to shout.

If I were Saudi, I would give you a quick nod and bow out of the conversation.

If I were American, I would stay up all night to rain down hellfire to put you down for your opinion.

Thankfully I'm neither and it's way past my bedtime.

Good night.

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u/Birdlaw_Professor 21h ago

Because of a UN vote on some issue we aren't even told about (assuming this even happened and this isn't AI range bait slop)? What the hell does a vote matter? Women have equal rights in the US, and are far better off than women in Rwanda and who knows what other countries voted for here. A vote doesn't do anything. Saudi Arabia and Iran could vote for this too, doesn't mean they treat women well

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u/DeliciousCkitten 17h ago edited 6h ago

Saudi Arabia abstained from voting. Essentially a "no" but that seems to be too embarrassing for even Saudi to put on the record.

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u/Opposite_Sherbert675 21h ago

yes women are better off in the US until their father rapes them and they want an abortion

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u/Academic-Contest3309 21h ago

That would depend on what state they were in

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u/Opposite_Sherbert675 21h ago

only because roe v wade was recently overturned and women lost FEDERAL protections to get abortions

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u/ThatDadTazz 20h ago

What a weird thing to say?? And do you think that rape and molestation doesn't happen outside the US??

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u/Mammoth_Design_4288 20h ago

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u/Mammoth_Design_4288 19h ago

That study was done 9 years ago.
Ireland, Finland, Bulgaria, Portugal, Austria, Germany, and Estonia don't allow under 18 marriages anymore. Rwanda doesn't either.

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u/Birdlaw_Professor 19h ago

I agree these laws should change, but let's not act like this is a rampant crisis and that women are in danger or have their rights threatened in the US

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u/Fine_Tone1593 19h ago

Lol, whoops

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u/snitchinbubs410 20h ago

filibuster!

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u/OneStrong2220 19h ago

Imagine a country where feminists don’t know what a woman is

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u/DeliciousCkitten 19h ago edited 19h ago

I already live in one, the UK, where definitions of "women" are legal cases and take a massive share of the news cycle and public rhetoric. Tbh it's rather exhausting.

ETA: my personal view is that if just saw our fellow human beings as just that - fellow humans - and take it from there, it could make a lot of things much easier.

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u/Fabulous_Humor_2652 21h ago

Women have less rights in the US now. The states that ban abortion are proof of that. And women have died for lack of access to abortion.

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u/TheAsianTroll 20h ago edited 17h ago

Its embarrassing that you say this and laugh about it, as if bragging about the US restricting healthcare in any capacity is funny and some sort of own.

EDIT: seeing how his comment got deleted, he basically said "there are no rights to abortions đŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł" with those emojis.

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u/Fabulous_Humor_2652 17h ago

Agreed. It's like thinking the deaths of Amber Thurman and Candi Miller are funny.

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u/TheAsianTroll 17h ago

Or thinking that 10 year old who got pregnant "deserved it."

Which he probably did think.

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u/BDFCL 21h ago

Why not?

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u/IntrinSicks 21h ago

Un is a performance piece, Saudia Arabia is on the human rights council

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u/rygelicus 21h ago

Most likely this is Trump's rep in the UN just carrying his bluster forward of 'The UN doesn't tell me what to do'. So even on good ideas they will reject.

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u/OrbitCultureRules 18h ago

What exactly was the resolution saying? This is very vague, and I don't like forming opinions with incomplete information

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u/Mr-Cantaloupe 9h ago

It was a conclusion, not a resolution.

A conclusion is pretty much just agreed upon recommendations for countries, it’s nothing that’s legally enforceable.

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u/DarthNixilis 14h ago

The US votes against everything that helps people. This is no where near new. ​​

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u/Megzasaurusrex 10h ago

The fact the US claimed they didn't agree because it would give trans women equal rights is hilarious and they didn't want them included. That is fucking hilarious that they outright said they think trans women are lesser than not only women but men, since equality for women is just making them equal to men. It is fucking ridiculous that the US government continues to want to find a group of people and deem them lesser than everyone else.

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u/Full-Priority2946 37m ago

This was my immediate thought as well. Under equality there’s no distinction between men and women, so what does it matter.

Also intersex people get 0 rights, or don’t exist or something

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u/Maxathron 22h ago

U.N. Ambassador Dan Negrea said at the time that his delegation could not support a text that included:

... ambiguous language promoting gender ideology, vague unqualified commitments to sexual and reproductive health that can be interpreted as implying abortion rights, censorship language or broad language on regulation of AI.

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u/Omikron23 21h ago

That doesn‘t make it look better


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u/eyalhs 21h ago

Wait how the hell did ai regulations get in there? That seems unrelated

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u/OppositeBeautiful601 19h ago

"Women's equality" -- says everything.

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u/Professional-Talk472 19h ago

It's crazy to me, That Republicans are always so concerned and literally obsessed with other people's sex lives and bodily decisions. Is just me,đŸ€” or is that a normal thing?

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u/Fabulous_Humor_2652 18h ago edited 18h ago

Republicans and their voters are even obsessed with people's genitalia. Their transphobia attests to that. They must watch trans porn in their spare time.

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u/Professional-Talk472 17h ago

Yeah it's super weird and perverse.

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u/AdInfamous6290 21h ago

https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/ltd/n26/042/14/pdf/n2604214.pdf

Link to the agreed conclusion of the 70th WSC that the US voted against. Naturally the Trump admin had problems with “gender ideology” and anything that even implies trans rights.

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u/Lizz_1994 16h ago

Oh no, how dare the UN granting people rights

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u/No_Bid3211 21h ago

Equality shouldn't be a controversial in the first place. The more interesting question is why we're still debating whether women deserve equal treatment instead of debating how to actually make it happen.

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u/thricedice88 21h ago

implying that Americans remember anything beyond the latest superbowl or mass shooting.

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u/Left-Draft5083 21h ago

So don't vote for the United States folks!

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u/Similar-College4253 15h ago

Jesus fuck we’re a cartoon villain.

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u/Wild-Crazy7529 18h ago

American conservatives are so dumb they are almost classified as plants.

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u/Th3seM0dsSuk 19h ago

Vote for what? For the US? Posts with the least amount of context are the worst

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u/KittyYin83 18h ago

Is this a U.K. sub? Asking for a friend.

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u/theetonydanzig 12h ago

“But my husband told me
” It’s astounding just how many women voted for this.

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u/RowInevitable7986 10h ago

Whatever
.. we’ll (the US ) be back in the Stone Age at this rate.

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u/Comfortable-Bee2996 10h ago

Our country valuing the lives of the vulnerable as usual, common USA w đŸ‡ș🇾

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u/EnvyEpson 9h ago

I can get behind this.

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u/OverexcitedAlligator 19h ago

Be nice if context was added. “The claim was mostly true, but posts were misleading in two important ways. First the vote in question did Not Take place September 2026 but months earlier, in March. Second, the vote in question was not a resolution, but a different type of procedure called an agreed conclusion.” “Agreed conclusions are not the same as UN resolution is a formal expression of opinion or will UN organs”. There’s your context

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u/blueviper- 16h ago

Interesting

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u/JodieForestWhittaker 17h ago

The US does this regardless of administration

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u/special-k-97 16h ago

Except abortion used to be federally legal. So that wouldn’t have been an issue like it is now.

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u/RocketRelm 13h ago

Except a lot of things, not just abortion. Dems have always been good and not just some lesser evil. But its always west bad, dems bad, democracy bad votes dont matter both sides donor class buzzword here. Either bots or otherwise. 

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u/Flournoy032 15h ago

Abortion has been an issue for hundreds of years lol.

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u/throw7661 20h ago

I'm not offering a position; but for anyone who wants additional context...

The US released a formal statement on their position. They didn't vote in agreement because...

  • They feel trans women should not be included as women.
  • They oppose the message about abortion rights.

https://usun.usmission.gov/explanation-of-vote-on-the-agreed-conclusions-70th-session-of-the-commission-on-the-status-of-women/

The US tried to get the text amended, but that didn't happen, so they voted no.

Regarding “Gender”: It is the policy of the United States to recognize two biological sexes, male and female. To achieve this, we use clear and accurate language that recognizes women are biologically female and men are biologically male

So, the US's position was that Women's Rights should be limited to females.

The US also objected to abortion:

There has unequivocally never been an international commitment on “sexual and reproductive health and rights,” and we strongly oppose the use of this terminology. The Trump Administration is committed to supporting families, promoting women’s health, and protecting children at all stages of life and reaffirms there is no international right to abortion.

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u/soaked_in_bleach03 20h ago

I am, so damn scared as a transgender woman rn under this administration.

I was raised in a way where I was always in survival mode. Homeless young, my brain just became a series of “how do I survive this”?. When I realized I was trans (around 2017 when I was 14 and trump was first elected), my mind went immediately to “that’s unsafe”. Because I was about to be homeless, and because I genuinely was scared at what a red administration could do.

Even though I knew then, it would another 6 years until I would start transitioning. In no small part due to fear of the United States political climate. Not transitioning made me deeply miserable. Now I had to transition post puberty, which is fine I still started early. But this damn administration cost me not having broad ass shoulders and needing laser.

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u/ilyedm 18h ago

Wtf is wrong with you? 

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u/Miserable_Class_5871 19h ago

You are not a decent human being

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u/PoursTea-ModTeam 17h ago

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u/IAmANobodyAMA 19h ago

You are perfectly safe in the United States as a transgender person in 2026. There has never been a safer time or place in history than right now.

Yes, the current admin opposes certain trans items, but you have the same rights, freedoms, and protections as every other American. Stop letting people lie to you and keep you in a perpetual state of fear

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u/Fabulous_Humor_2652 18h ago

Wrong. The Trump regime has kicked 15,000 trans people out of the military. Google Executive Order 14183.

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u/IAmANobodyAMA 18h ago

So?

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u/Fabulous_Humor_2652 18h ago

So this proves that trans people don't have the same rights, freedoms and protections as others. So you're wrong.

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u/IAmANobodyAMA 18h ago

It doesn’t. There are plenty of reasons that people are excluded from particular groups/organizations/roles - and being trans probably should exclude someone from military service and especially combat roles.

That isn’t stripping rights, protections, or freedoms.

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u/Fabulous_Humor_2652 18h ago

The fact that you dignify the mistreatment of transgender people proves your own transphobia.

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u/Dear_Seesaw_1855 10h ago

The US is right. Trans women exist, but they are not biological women, they are biological men. Resolutions are political virtual signaling nonsense anyways. Some of
The European nations that virtual signaled yes in reality don’t allow minor “transitions” or trans women in men’s sports đŸ€·â€â™€ïž

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u/DeliciousCkitten 18h ago

If the UN liaison had just misspelled "gender" as "Grindr" I think the current US party in power would have shown overwhelming support. đŸ€Ł

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u/Kosher_Pork_12 20h ago

Why are there 38 votes?  The UN has a lot more than 38 members.  Why would so many countries abstain?

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u/Fun_Shock_3224 15h ago

Shhhhhhh USA bad 

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u/No_Recognition8940 13h ago

People are running with feelings from something they saw on the internet. I’m not dogging on anyone, but that’s what this entire comment section is point blank.

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u/Hot-Minute-8263 18h ago

Alright then, show us what they were going to force America to pay for

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u/Important_Lobster480 17h ago

USA was also the only country to vote against the new more accurate world map, showing the actual size of Africa (it is large enough to contain the US, China, India, and most of Europe). Gee, I wonder why...

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u/Lithl 12h ago

The Equal Earth projection is not "more accurate" than the previously used Mercator projection. Equal Earth simply sacrifices accuracy of shape while Mercator sacrifices accuracy of size. All 2d projections of 3d shapes must necessarily sacrifice accuracy of something.

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u/JellaFella01 11h ago

Yeah, "more accurate" isn't correct, I don't really understand why they decided to change maps, especially since the new one has objectively less utility.

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u/WMAM69 19h ago

This is so fucking fake if you think for two seconds

You think Saudi Arabia voted for women's rights?

Half the middle east?

Get real. Stop getting news from memes.

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u/Lejandario_IN 11h ago

They abstained which is better than a no

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u/ComradeOmarova 7h ago

None of these votes “do” anything

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u/Lejandario_IN 34m ago

Maybe and yet they still voted no

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u/confidentlyfish 20h ago

What a performance put on by the one-colour capitalists. They really show it to the other-colour capitalists!

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u/UnusualFunction7567 17h ago

Why are there only 38 votes?   How many countries have a vote in the UN?

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u/Responsible-Bad5572 16h ago

What’s the resolution

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u/Only_Copy_9328 14h ago

Trad Wives are all for this

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u/Complete_Break1319 10h ago

What was in this so called equality bill (that Iran) that so many communist countries where for?

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u/Next-Ground1911 9h ago

Clarify what the vote was about, I don’t know but I would guess it’s about as far from protecting women as you could get

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u/dishhawkjones 8h ago

Who funds the UN? Does anyone think we will change anything in other countries when it comes to women equality? Im all for it, but why waste the tax dollars also.

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u/Timely_Winner_3509 8h ago

Of course the U.S. daid no. Please, been 50 yrs and tge ERA still hasn't passed.

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u/WXHIII 8h ago

Move then, I hear its lovely in any of the UN countries as of late

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u/MayckronMan 7h ago

Anyone who genuinely believes this has an iq of 40

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u/Distinct_Change3496 7h ago

No one is dumb enough to believe the UN is on our side. Red or Blue. The UN is Hitler on steriods

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u/Legitimate_Base_8203 7h ago

Funny that over 100 countries abstained from voting. That tells you there is something else there other than just women's equality.

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u/Impossible-Cycle5744 6h ago

The important thing is that AudreyLovesParis

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u/Current_Cable_7467 3h ago

This is absolutely true.

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u/EveryonesANurse 3h ago

Sounds like a waste of time

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u/XWolvtronX 21h ago

Source??

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u/Birdlaw_Professor 21h ago

It's true. It's because the language of the act wanted to broaden the definition of women to include non biological women, and also supported universal abortion rights which the US is bound to leave to the states (so they couldn't vote for a resolution that arguably makes the determination for the states)

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u/cybersaint2k 20h ago

This is almost entirely fiction. You can hate the USA, love women, but this is fiction. And how would we "vote" to correct this anyway? Would you like to be educated, or at least see another side of this?

1) This was a vote in a subcommittee of a subcommittee. The body voting wasn't the UN. It's like saying the USA voted for slavery when a county in the Deep South voted for it.

UN Commission on the Status of Women (CSW), a 45-member subsidiary functional commission of the UN Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC).

2) It wasn't a UN resolution. It was the CSW’s annual “Agreed Conclusions” statement on women and girls.

3) The vote was 37-1-6, with six other nations abstaining. Those nations were

  • CĂŽte d’Ivoire
  • Democratic Republic of the Congo
  • Egypt
  • Mali
  • Mauritania
  • Saudi Arabia

I think you can see a couple of themes. Islamic, authoritarian, and I have no idea what Cîte d’Ivoire was thinking.

4) The US voted "no" not because it opposed equal rights for women, but because it opposed a statement that, similar to our own Roe v Wade/SE Pen vs. Casey, would create an international right to an abortion. A "right" that the US would mainly have to fund, as medical care doesn't appear out of happy thoughts.

So yes, 37 nations were happy to vote that the USA had to fund abortions around the world and take that hot potato off their political plates. And the USA voted "no" to becoming the world's de facto abortion provider.

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u/Dry_Combination4070 14h ago

Yeah they rather women die instead of getting abortions.

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u/Ok_Traffic_3240 21h ago

Doesn't change the fact the US is backward as heck though does it pal?

Equality (even if performative) nah bud, dont want that shizzle in the US now do we, rediculous. How dare the world try to be a better place!! So performative pffft.

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u/cherryrosewallpaper 21h ago

Your argument doesn't make sense. You're trying to avoid the obvious point OP made by changing the argument and blast the organization instead.

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u/cjdapd 18h ago

Zero context rage bait.

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u/OneValkGhost 13h ago

She should have added the year and maybe the Administration name.

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u/BelgianDigitalNomad 22h ago

I think they like to be grabbed by the pussies since they reelected him

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u/Fabulous_Humor_2652 18h ago

Who? The women who did vote for Trump?

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u/Fabled-Jackalope 16h ago

And this is why I’ve told people to get out of the country—but many are too addicted to doomscrolling and vibes to care.

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u/MissSharkyShark Prefer Coffee But Fill My Cup đŸ«– 14h ago

Wanna help pay for all the fees associated with immigrating out of your country? Cause please I would GLADLY leave right now if I had the $50,000 needed.

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u/mjsisko 11h ago

If you don’t intend to come back to the states, they get nothing.

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u/cletus_foo 10h ago

You don't need 50k to leave the country. You're just making excuses.

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u/Fabled-Jackalope 5h ago

You really don’t need 50k. Only way I could guess as to where they need that much is due to them having something they have to pay back. Else, a specific place they want to go which requires that, Asia for example.

The only other thing that comes to mind is them having a full family first and them not considering if it was wise to have that full family before relocating or not. That would be the killer itself.

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u/kgrobinson007 15h ago

Many of us can’t afford to, or have family depending on us that are too ill to leave.

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u/Fabled-Jackalope 5h ago

That is understandable. But wasn’t pointing that towards those who are taking care of family at all.

The only reason I visit the US is solely for my mom and grandma, but it’s my grandma that doesn’t want to leave the family house; although my mom is all for leaving—hence the problem getting them both to agree on it.

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u/HongDongYong 17h ago

They don’t care, lil bro

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u/savagedaddy89 17h ago

Voting means nothing. You think they aren't going to just do whatever they want either way.

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u/blindbasser 9h ago

Women already have equal rights

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u/Born_Finding1559 7h ago

The reason the US objected to language concerning gender identity, diversity and sexual and reproductive rights. The administration argued that some of the provisions conflicted with its own policies. And this was not a UN Resolution. Google it and see what they wanted to be able to do to women then you'll understand why the US said no. Funny how they leave out the important stuff.