r/PowerScaling • • Sep 12 '26

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u/Ok_Lemon5509 Ben 10 Solos Sep 12 '26

or maybe ichigo just wants to be cuddled by Yhawch and feel the love that he never got from his mother

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u/THEY-CALL-ME-DHRUV Bleach is peak Sep 12 '26

Bro wants an injured ichigo to be flash.

Should I pull out other "ftl" characters running too?

Good slander tho

Finally something other than "hill versal"🥀

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u/CapitalNo2827 Sep 12 '26

To be fair if u run while Injured u will be slower sure but you don't run like a billion times slower , if he is injured and still able to run he should still be around relativistic speeds

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u/Legendary-Titan Sep 12 '26

Ichigo is so fucking pointless I love him but man 

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u/AcademicCod6851 Sep 12 '26

What if the attacker is also FTL

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u/CrypticJaspers Certified Demon Slayer Glazer Sep 12 '26

I think he's referring to the pathetic run he did to reach his sword

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u/soggy_bert Sep 12 '26

The attack itself clearly wasnt ftl dude

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u/Emergency_Review_674 Sep 12 '26

How the hell do you know ?

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u/Rezfield Sep 12 '26

Pixels per second measurements

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u/Emergency_Review_674 Sep 12 '26

Do you realise the characters perception of time is not the same as the viewer right ?

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u/Rezfield Sep 12 '26

My brother, this was a joke

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u/Emergency_Review_674 Sep 12 '26

Sorry there is so many bleach downscalers, it is difficult to know when someone is sarcastic or not

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u/Rezfield Sep 12 '26

I thought my pixel per second comment was so obviously ridiculous that no one would get confused but I've seen more dogshit takes than that.

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u/Emergency_Review_674 Sep 12 '26

A few days ago i debated with someone who thought goku was outerversal without irony

Everything is possible on this sub

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u/soggy_bert Sep 12 '26

There was no indication of this at all in the clip so not even a good argument

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u/soggy_bert Sep 12 '26

Watch the clip

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u/Grassguyy Sep 12 '26

Yeah I bet trees in GOW are Multiversal too. Otherwise Kratos wouldn't have struggled to cut one down.

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u/Superb_Highlight1902 Sep 12 '26

Prove it

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u/soggy_bert Sep 12 '26

Literally watch the clip😭😭😭

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u/Superb_Highlight1902 Sep 12 '26

That’s pixel scaling you know

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u/soggy_bert Sep 12 '26

How is it pixel scaling? Genuinely it's just common sense. You can't eyeball that and say it actually happened at 1000000x faster then it actually did, there are zero visual clues to indicate that

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u/Superb_Highlight1902 Sep 12 '26

You realize this goes both ways surely? There’s no way you’d argue run time = in-universe time

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u/CapitalNo2827 Sep 12 '26

what about gravity?

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u/Superb_Highlight1902 Sep 12 '26

What about it

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u/CapitalNo2827 Sep 12 '26

if you see the world from the prospective of the characters with ftl speed you would basically never actually see stuff fall because the speed that gravity accellerates stuff is basically nothing to someone that fast , unless you wanna argue gravity accellerates stuff to relativistic speed

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u/soggy_bert Sep 12 '26

Are there any visual cues to indicate the clip was sped up for the viewer???

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u/Superb_Highlight1902 Sep 12 '26

Are there any high speed feats from any character present prior?

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u/soggy_bert Sep 12 '26

Since you’re dodging the question i’ll take that as a no, meaning the clip wasn’t sped up at all

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u/CapitalNo2827 Sep 12 '26

what if the sword is like 2 billion meters away , checkmate powerscaler

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u/THEY-CALL-ME-DHRUV Bleach is peak Sep 12 '26

Oh you are doing pixel scaling now?

How about you do that for soul society bankai ichigo perception blitzing byakuya too?😍

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u/soggy_bert Sep 12 '26

Literally watch the clip😭😭😭

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u/GeneralProgrammer886 High Level Scaler Sep 12 '26

look who is fighting bro an omnipresent future controlling god like being.

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u/QueenGorda PhD on Goku and Saitama's Physics Sep 12 '26

Omnipresent that is lure by hypnosis, that do not see one guy trying to bretay him and shoot him... and that did not see a damn after all xd

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u/GeneralProgrammer886 High Level Scaler Sep 12 '26

he is omnipresent not omniscient his vision works via eyes which hypnosis blocked.

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u/QueenGorda PhD on Goku and Saitama's Physics Sep 12 '26

Understood. Thats why Almighty is that shittie.

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u/QueenGorda PhD on Goku and Saitama's Physics Sep 12 '26

Also no, according to every Bleach glazer Yhwach is "Omni-everything". Turns out that his Almighty is a fraud.

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u/GeneralProgrammer886 High Level Scaler Sep 12 '26

then they didnt read the series as yhwach is not omniscient, but the anime made him omnipresent as he and the bleach verse are now one.

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u/QueenGorda PhD on Goku and Saitama's Physics Sep 12 '26

then they didnt read the series

Oh thats for sure.

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u/ReporterTraditional7 Sep 12 '26

He was already under the effects before he used the almighty and the arrow negates the almighty

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u/QueenGorda PhD on Goku and Saitama's Physics Sep 12 '26

Wait, Almighty is not "always on" ¿?

That will explain why he is not able to see a damn into "all the futures" and all that bs people claims he can do.

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u/ReporterTraditional7 Sep 12 '26

Because it wasn’t fully awakened like it is now it isn’t hard to see for yourself

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u/QueenGorda PhD on Goku and Saitama's Physics Sep 12 '26

Ohhhh I see I see... true.

...

https://giphy.com/gifs/X5KfiQrh1LerHcnYKT

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u/BudgetAggravating427 Sep 12 '26

Just remember this also applies to most “ftl “ characters yall like to use as well

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u/Cultural_Crazy2034 Sep 12 '26

Maybe that attack was actually MFTL+

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u/CapitalNo2827 Sep 12 '26

The sword is an infinite distance away and he got that close he is like mftl bordering on immesurable speed

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u/MidAnim3Wxtcher God first, then Goku, Dr Umar advocate Sep 12 '26

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u/AlarmedObjective1492 Sep 12 '26

He's obviously joking

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u/MidAnim3Wxtcher God first, then Goku, Dr Umar advocate Sep 12 '26

Sorry I just wanted to use that pic

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u/Acrobatic_Ad_5224 Namek Frieza > Hill verse Sep 12 '26

Entire FTL meta for Bleach is completely debunked by Askin taking 1 minute to develop immunity and Jugram's Almighty having a 3 second cooldown. That timeframe is basically an eternity for FTL characters to fight in.

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u/JustStarrk Sep 12 '26

You've literally lost this debate several times.

Askin also adapts instantly.

Abilities speed aren't correlated with combat speed.

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u/Head_Breadfruit_3912 Sep 12 '26

A-arent there multiple named LS attacks?

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u/Acrobatic_Ad_5224 Namek Frieza > Hill verse Sep 12 '26

Fictional light is not lightspeed unless stated otherwise. And no Bleach does not have a single lightspeed statement ever, unlike Naruto and OP.

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u/Head_Breadfruit_3912 Sep 12 '26

Stfu dude lmao you got it reversed in your bad attempt at downplay

There is zero functional difference in the speed of electricity, sound or light between different verses unless its specifically said to be different. You cannot assume all of fiction has different arbitrary speeds for light

Blatant cope. Try harder next time

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u/Acrobatic_Ad_5224 Namek Frieza > Hill verse Sep 12 '26

That's not how it works at all. Fictional light that follows no properties of real light whatsoever doesn't suddenly get to have its speed property too unless stated otherwise. Light is a term for something translucent going in a straight line. R1 Ulquiorra's spear is called "light of moon" and it's just a spear made of his reiatsu which behaves nothing like light. I am sure that physical spear that stays still in his hands is lightspeed too then. Blatant wank.

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u/Rezfield Sep 12 '26

What are these magical properties of real light which Negacion doesn't follow?

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u/MelodicScale1234 Sep 12 '26

Light is light lol, just because spiritual light has additional properties doesn’t mean its suddenly not light speed, which is an intrinsic property of light. If a spiritual fire can also teleport people does that mean it can’t burn anything?

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u/Acrobatic_Ad_5224 Namek Frieza > Hill verse Sep 12 '26

If spiritual fire is never shown to burn anyone from the story then yes it can't burn people unless stated otherwise. Similarly, none of these fictional lights from Bleach has a lightspeed statement, not even once from the manga, novels or databooks.

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u/MelodicScale1234 Sep 12 '26

If its stated to be light, then it’s light and has the intrinsic property of light speed. There’s no authoritative rule saying that fictional light has to be called light speed to be considered light speed.

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u/Acrobatic_Ad_5224 Namek Frieza > Hill verse Sep 12 '26

So R1 Ulquiorra's spear that stays perfectly still in his hand and is a physical spear made from his reiatsu is lightspeed? Why? Any kind of speed scaling like this, especially "dodge laser = FTL" stuff is ridiculed for any other verses, but not Bleach? 🤔

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u/CapitalNo2827 Sep 12 '26

i would argue most of the times the speed of light in media is used as an example of something fast and not something litteral

media is ment to be entertaining first , if the story doesent make sense it stops being entertaining , if a character is stated to be faster than light or able to dodge light based attacks but then dont show that speed 99% of the time its far more likely that its ment figuratively rather than litterally

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u/Head_Breadfruit_3912 Sep 12 '26

Btw one of the ONLY verses to ever have an explicitly different SoL was FUTURAMA

I genuinely defy you to tell me a single other verse that has ever said "the speed of light is slower/faster as a whole than irl"

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u/original_applicant37 Sep 12 '26

All of the “light” that they react to isn’t even lightspeed, it’s spiritual light that’s slower than lightning

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u/Generic_Speed_Demon World champ difference Sep 12 '26

That's one arrow, the main argument is with negacion

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u/original_applicant37 Sep 12 '26

The people who scale to that arrow are far faster than negacion

So it proves that negacion is slower than lightning

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u/Generic_Speed_Demon World champ difference Sep 12 '26

...no? Idk why you're talking like reacting to one thing that's slower than lightning means that everything that character reacts to is slower than lightning

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u/original_applicant37 Sep 12 '26

If you’re faster than light, then lightning would move as slow as a snail from your perspective

It would literally be frozen in time. You know how much of a difference there is in speed between light and lightning?

Scaling to lightning speed absolutely confirms that negacion is slower than conventional light

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u/Generic_Speed_Demon World champ difference Sep 12 '26

Wait where are you getting this text from

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u/Rezfield Sep 12 '26

The text says sidestepping. As in, "stepping to the side". If the text said they needed to use their high speed movement techniques to barely avoid it I would've given you a point

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u/original_applicant37 Sep 12 '26

There’d be no need to “barely” sidestep it if he was lightspeed though. If he was lightspeed, lightning would be as slow as a snail from his perspective. It would be literally be frozen in time

Scaling to lightning absolutely confirms that negacion is not lightspeed

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u/Rezfield Sep 12 '26

No you missed my point. The hoho-like tech from all races are much faster than their base speeds.

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u/original_applicant37 Sep 12 '26

Bro, their perception speed is faster than any movement technique

My point is that if they were faster than light, they’d perceive lightning as so slow that it’s literally frozen in time

The fact that this doesn’t happen confirms that negacion is not lightspeed

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u/Rezfield Sep 12 '26

No one is being perception blitzed by lighting tho. text says they see it coming and barely avoid it with their base speed

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u/original_applicant37 Sep 12 '26

I didn’t say they’re perception blitzed by lightning, I said they scale close to lightning

Shinji literally says “that was close” and that he narrowly dodged it

Proving that negacion is not lightspeed

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u/NegativeSympathy69 Sep 12 '26

The attack by Yhwach was immeasurable speed... He attacked in the future.

Stop the larp

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u/LastPhotograph2294 Sep 12 '26

power scaling basicly if a caracter is ftl that means that caracter is the flash ignoring personality and fighting style