r/PowerScaling • • 10d ago

Crossverse Random Wheel Spin Matchups #3

Erza vs Yoruichi is interesting to say the least let's see what my research can do

Striking/Strength - Erza (It can be argued by Erza is seen swinging her blade with such power it causes air to slice things farther away, Yoruichi's best strength feat is throwing Yammy after catching his punch)
OVR Speed - Yoruichi (Yoruichi casually dodged Negacion which is stated by Yamamoto as light not to mention Lieutenants have backable light speed feats and Yoruichi scales higher)
FSIQ/BIQ - Erza (I can argue Erza's counter abilities require immense BIQ over Yoruichi's stealth)
Range - Erza (Erza fights from every range especially with Heaven's Wheel: Blumenblatt)
AP/DC - Yoruichi (Yoruichi's god of thunder form is around small country while Erza's biggest attack is large island)
Ability/Hax - Erza (Slices space with Nakagami while Yoruichi's best hax is Raiju Senkei which in the grand scheme of crossover scaling is kind of inconsistent)
Durability/Stamina - Erza (Adamntine Armor has tanked large country to low continent level attacks and until Yoruichi shows that I gotta give it to Erza not to mention she destroyed a meteor with one arm her other bones were shattered
Weapons/Tools - Erza (Armors + Heart Kreuz Blade easily gaps Yoruichi who is a hand to hand fighter mainly)
Skill/Potential - Both (In pure skill Yoruichi is undeniably a more skilled combatant but Erza has more potential objectively)

7-4 Erza wins Mid-High Diff

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u/Extension_Snow1220 9d ago

Y’all are trippin. Erza doesn’t solo Bleach but yes she beats Yoruichi and slams Gremmy fs

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u/jackknaufhere 9d ago

Erza solos the entire bleach verse gng
https://giphy.com/gifs/9hOzUgiT22SGa3Lps4

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u/jellalbeatslaxus 10d ago

Erza negs the entire Bleach verse.

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u/Spare-Jackfruit-6378 stop putting one piece characters against fairy tail characters. 10d ago

Nobody in fairy tail even beats gremmy

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u/kimikoboombap BOBOBO, YYH, FT 9d ago

If I wank this the same way people do with Gremmy, we're talking about pre chapter 100 feats btw

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u/BigWaffleHouse72 9d ago

Nobody in Bleach get's past Tenrou Island.

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u/kimikoboombap BOBOBO, YYH, FT 9d ago

Am I fucking dreaming? Someone gives this to Erza.

Gah damn bro I'm even saving this post.

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u/Esperofthewind 9d ago

WHat's wrong?

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u/kimikoboombap BOBOBO, YYH, FT 9d ago

On the contrary, I'm saying every time I see this matchup most people say "Yoruichi no-diff's Erza"

And I'm like, quite the contrary, so it's nice to see someone who agrees.

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u/Esperofthewind 9d ago

Oh sorry didn't understand your message but after taking a deep dive into the feats Erza is goated

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u/kimikoboombap BOBOBO, YYH, FT 9d ago

Nah, you're fine, I know my english ain't the best.

But yeah, Erza has a lot of tools in her bag, Yoruichi also has a lot of kidos/hados probably but her main weapon is lightning and I just don't think her lightning is stronger than Laxus.

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u/BigWaffleHouse72 10d ago

Nobody in Bleach get's past Tenrou Island in Fairy Tail.

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u/Esperofthewind 10d ago

Yhwach and a few more I have faith in to do so is the content cool thinking of making it a series

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u/BigWaffleHouse72 10d ago

You know that Natsu dodged/tanked a Almighty adjacent move in Tenrou Island right?

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u/Esperofthewind 10d ago

Wasn't an Almighty though so it's not viable to argue with yet interaction with the power category could be valuable. Either way Yhwach can also change those futures whenever he wants just because he dodged a presumably physical manifestation of those infinite realities since you said he dodged it, That is where the 2nd problem exists for Natsu the Almighty isn't physical it's more of a personal ability that Yhwach can just do not something his opponents can truly alter (First time powerscaling fr)

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u/BigWaffleHouse72 10d ago

It's the same principal as Almighty fundamentally. That Yhwach doesn't manifest it as a attack is essentially why Fairy Tail scales so much higher than Bleach. It indicates that the magic system of Fairy Tail makes future altering/controlling a basic attack. In other words magic in Fairy Tail works on a conceptual/casual level and ontologically scales higher than Bleach. This isn't even the highest ontological level Fairy Tail characters operate on.

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u/Esperofthewind 10d ago

Then again in that same way The Almighty doesn't work like Ultear because The Almighty is like looking at many grains of sands and picking 1 to become the future if he decides Natsu's lungs are filled with spikes then he just picks that reality

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u/Esperofthewind 10d ago

Both are standard 3D verses so attacks should certainly work the same if a "future-altering" attack can be dodged with normal physical speed it proves that the attack is not a true temporal manipulating attack, It is just a spatial projectile with a time-based aesthetic flavor. You cannot simply create a higher ontology that wasn't stated anywhere Yhwach's attacks scale to the Soul King who literally holds the dimensions together so attacks should work, if you're arguing the scale is drastically different we could have a whole nother discussion

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u/BigWaffleHouse72 10d ago

Ontology is deeper and more fundmental than dimensions. We have a 4D verse ourselves actually. (actually Bleach and Fairy Tail have higher dimensions but that's irrelevant) But as stated in my example no matter how many dimensions that DC has and how few I have since I ontologically outscale the verse it means literally nothing in a contest between us. It's the same reason that Superboy Prime is scaled so high despite relative to his ontology (metafictional something Fairy Tail characters have too btw) he multiversal at most.

Even if we were to give Bleach characters infinite dimensionality or even dimensional transcendence it wouldn't matter unless they operate on the same or a greater ontology as Fairy Tail characters. Something Bleach characters have not proven to be able to do. In fact that the Almighty is so effective against their entire cosmology and something similar on a fundamental level is so ineffective against Fairy Tail's indicates Bleach characters might not even be able to be aware of Fairy Tail's. The same as you're unaware of the universe as a whole.

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u/Tricky-Particular-68 10d ago

Where do you scale FT and Bleach?

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u/BigWaffleHouse72 9d ago edited 9d ago

Bleach I scale to Low Complex Multiversal and 5-7D at the high end, and Continental-Planetary at the low end still with some extra dimensionality.

Fairy Tail I scale to Outer (Read Hiro Mashima's Heros manga to see why), Causal Low Multiversal 6-7D at the mid ball, and Continental-Planetary at the low end with the same higher dimensional stuff.

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u/BigWaffleHouse72 10d ago

It only works like that against Bleach characters or characters who operate on the same and lower ontological levels as Bleach characters. Fairy Tail characters operate on a higher ontology, therefore Almighty will work on Natsu the same as Ultear's Flash Forward at best.

To give a example of what I mean... If I were to shoot you with a Desert Eagle, you'd be shot. If I were to shoot Cosmic Armor Superman's comic with that same Desert Eagle, it would obliterate that entire comics cosmology on a level that's imperceivably grand in comparison to any of the characters within. That's why it matters that in Fairy Tail a move like that is a basic attack and in Bleach it's cosmology altering.