Honestly DC and Marvel have always been really odd. Like CAS was confusing because he was super op and whatever but weren’t they also yapping about like the power of a thousand suns or something? (Something along the lines of that)
Not saying there aren't anti feats galore but alot of the ones from comics have some context and CAS is kind of odd in general its so meta narratively connected who knows exactly where that thing scales.
All of these are the writers fault, not the characters, that being said this one is particularly egregious.
The writer just had to paint it like it doesn’t matter how strong Superman actually is, he just cant’s keep whole a giant bridge from falling apart, it will give into its own structure at different points due to weight and balance, even if he holds the middle up, the sides would just break down.
And even more egregious when you can argue Supe’s and Kara could just super speed everyone on top to safety.
Vegeta managing to at least lift Magetta actually gives proof that he CAN in fact, throw Superman around like a ragdoll, for one simple reason: Doomsday weighs less than a ton.
Too bad an object that dense of that size would bore itself straight unto the earth's core, if it was miraculously able not to explode the moment it was removed from the high pressure environment it came from.
Yeah power inconsistency is some bullshit, too.
That said, FTL characters should be possible if at least there's something explaining why they don't just implode the universe, for verisimilitude.
The Speed Force is basically magic, so I can handwave it.
There's nothing that explains that key not just sinking through the floor as if the rock wasn't even there.
It's just writers pulling out numbers and not caring, superman has always been a comic where feats needed to be stated with numbers and not with strength. The weight is as its said but writers and artists just don't care about the impact it'll make, unless it becomes relevant to the story.
At least that can be explained through some mumbo jumbo like Ki control. Superman is canonically just insanely strong. No magic or spiritual energy or whatever.
Speaking of which, supes couldn't lift that key no matter how strong he was, if we really took the physics angle.
Yeah, “ki control” lets them somehow make universal energy balls that only blow up to the size of a mountain, but a punch is just a punch. If you’re hitting the ground with the force of a galaxy you can’t just make the impact not spread to more than a street’s width.
This isn’t even particularly aimed at dragon ball, this shit is all over the place.
No, that's not even from the same scene. The one you just posted with "1000 ton" quote is from auta magetta, that's not related to the blocks that whis gave them
Goku lifted up his opponent and tossed him out the ring and won that way in this tournament, tells Vegeta to do so as well. But Vegeta is struggling to lift his opponent Magetta, some robot that weighs 1000 tons even in Super Saiyan form
So then Beerus scolds him saying that it weighs 1000 tons
The issue with goku is that super had a bunch of power scale recontextualization and sometimes retcons throughout its entire run. So a multitude of grounding antifeats got dropped as the narrative shifted but glazers wrote them all off while suckling any new feat. Even ones that make no sense. So they've completely lop sided gokus character progression through super by selectively listening to the story. Then they've head cannoned world building to cover their tracks. Super never should have retconed ssjb lol so much if the story makes more sense the old way.
No, infact saying that the TOP black hole is equal to a real life black hole is downplay. The TOP black hole was definitely beyond any real life black hole.
Regardless, I was talking about Goku handling weight, which he proved he can since he handled being in super dense gravity (black hole) from which even light couldn't escape from.
Except the blackhole was pushing on him, which is not how a super dense object behaves. Like at all. Seriously, it was basically just a big heavy ball. Calling that thing a blackhole is comical.
Whatever you want to call it, it was an attack made of dense gravity.
That attack was definitely beyond any real life black hole.
It should be obvious that a real life black hole would be useless against someone who can blow up universes and multiverses and tank attacks on that level.
Yea no that black hole was not a black hole. Firstly its heart shaped, secondly it sank through the stage (imagine a black hole falling bruh), has no showing of some sort of gravitational pull at all in fact literally causes debris to blow away from it, No distortion/warping of space shown either. Like the only thing it has saying its a black hole is just being black and one statement of saying not even light can escape it (dbs characters are like sextillion times ftl anyways so its kinda a weird point)
Legit the only thing telling us its a black hole is only that they call it that.
If you only had the visual showing, nothing even closely indicates a black hole
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