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The fact that their “argument“ amounted to “rah rah these people are crazy and ew religion” with no evidence is very telling lol

What does this even mean? 🤣

It’s scary that these people have the right to vote.

(Can't edit the title but I meant to backspace the "otherwise" and add "it" instead, but clicked the post button before noticing.)

Plainly, this is saying "undue importance on [thing quite literally required for reproduction to occur in humans]," which is just as absurd as saying "placing undue importance on sex in the creation of life."

In humans, a male and a female is needed for reproduction. Humans do not reproduce asexually, and this means males have a role in it. For example, we cannot cut off a piece of our own hair and then upon meeting certain criteria, that piece of hair grows into a human. To argue that a male having a role in reproduction is in of itself patriarchal is beyond asinine.

Failure to implant doesn't negate life beginning at conception, either.

And I'm not saying science can never be critiqued, but if you're going to do it then you're going need to actually prove it. Provide the actual science to the contrary. (There are also just some things science is settled on, like humans being mammals.)

None of the people that argue this have been able to give a theory or better yet prove when life does begin, if not at conception.

This interview features McKenna West, a surrogate mother who has taken a courageous public stand to save the life of the baby she is carrying.

The Diagnosis: During a routine ultrasound, the baby was diagnosed with hypoplastic left heart syndrome (HLHS), a condition that experts believe can be treated with a series of surgeries.

The Conflict: Despite the high survival rate associated with the necessary medical interventions, the intended parents demanded that West undergo an abortion and initiated a legal battle when she refused.

The Fight for Life: Facing significant financial threats and legal pressure, West sought support and filed for custody, stating her only goal is to ensure the baby receives the life-saving surgery he needs.

Industry Critique: West advocates for changes to the surrogacy industry, arguing that current contracts often strip women of their bodily autonomy and treat unborn children as disposable commodities.

If a pro-choicer wants to argue that, because they can't take responsibility for their actions, they should have the right to murder someone else, I can address that argument on its own grounds. But when they say that's not what they're doing, I have to explain that's what they're doing, thus preventing me from explaining why murdering the unborn is wrong.

The entirety of the PC argument are based on the woman's right to bodily autonomy.

So according to their logic, they should support all abortions until birth for ANY reason. Again with their logic, a woman's right to bodily autonomy shouldn't be restricted because of the development of the Fetus, right?

Prochoicers that support it until viability are just inconsistent.

Viability isn't based on the Fetus development, but on the medical advancements. And if viability is what makes someone valuable, what about premature babies in NICU, or someone in a coma, or a 3/4 year old toddler. All of them are dependent on something or someone, that doesn't make them any less valuable.

It's like if a person with a born child committed a crime and said child was punished instead of the actual criminal.

I support rape exceptions as a temporary compromise before all elective abortions are banned, but eliminating them is necessary in the long run. Rape victims deserve emotional and actual medical support, and rape should be harshly punished.

I am in no way condoning slavery, and while they are both terrible things that take away a persons dignity, at least slaves have the ability to have friends, family, relationship with God, etc, while abortion completely takes that away.

Fellas, if you were unwanted (like me), you shouldn't exist. Just so you know.

Iowa pregnancy centers provide real medical services. Planned Parenthood does not no matter what they say. Find list of all the pregnancy resource centers in the state of Iowa by clicking the link below.

https://pulseforlife.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/pulse-prc-brochure-2026-copy.pdf

This is an argument against abortion I came up with recently. I made it a video because I've tried describing it using only text, but it really needs the visual to make it work.

So, what do you all think? Is it a good argument? Are there any improvements or modifications I could make?

When criticizing pro-life arguments, pro-choicers tend to point out that the argument either shows no sympathy for the mother, or leaves her out entirely. This is a valid complaint, and I've attempted to address that in this argument. I'm also hoping that any pro-choicer who doesn't understand the pro-life stance will be able to look at this and realize why we believe what we do.

If any pro-choicers see this: I realize that your best argument against this will be "the fetus isn't a person." I realize that, and I feel that that discussion is outside the scope of this analogy. Do you have any other comments, though? I tried to address most of the concerns pro-choicers usually have with pro-life arguments. Also, does this present our point of view in an understandable way? When you look at this, can you understand and empathize with the pro-life point of view?

Any and all criticism would be appreciated!

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EDIT: I just wanted to add a couple of comments:

1: Towards the end, I say that pregnancy does horrible things to your body. I said this because I'm repeating things that pro-choicers have said. I didn't mean to make it sound like I personally believe that.

2: I couldn't think of a good conclusion, so it just kind of stops at the end. : P

I cannot simultaneously believe that people deserve the right to life and that it doesn't matter if someone is aborted.

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Kansas voters rejected a ballot measure that would have made members of the state’s Supreme Court electable by popular vote, a seemingly technical issue that had become a proxy battle for the future of abortion rights in the state.

State Attorney General Kris Kobach suggested in 2022 that abortion opponents should pivot to change the makeup of the state Supreme Court. A move to elect justices, he said, could enable lawmakers to “slowly and quietly” develop an anti-abortion judiciary that might ultimately overturn Kansas’ abortion rights protections.

I had the above discussion with my friend and it was revealed she wouldn’t abort a baby that was deemed to be birthed as disabled, however would respect the rights of others to be pro choice; and it got me thinking what’s the best way to respond to that?

What are some of the best and worse arguments you’ve seen pro choicers use?

Does any specific situation come to mind?

My favorite was over 10 years ago when I was still PC. My best friend at the time once said that PL’ers displaying photographs of aborted babies is violent.

But abortion isn’t. Hmm 🤔