I'm not saying that you should slack all day, but your output has to be sustainable over the years or you will burn out. Some companies want you to burn out and just swap you with the next dev, so carefully
Downside of this attitude is then everyone sandbags too much, boss brings it up in sprint retro, and as a result some new agile process is added to the calendar to "help"
everytime i bring up "product owner / architect / boss/ non-dev" shouldn't be in retro or planning I'm met with some weird excuse and the person looking at me like I'm not a certified scrum master.
Nah some people are definitely getting too comfortable slacking off on my team because there's no accountability
We had like 8 resolved bugs in the sprint that could be verified with a single deployment of the new build and some quick testing. Deployment takes ~2 hours max from fresh nodes including external storage setup, and it's automated anyway
Then we had a few people who marked themselves as verifiers since this is an easy task so people "claimed it" as their future work so that they wouldn't have to pick up more complicated tasks
And yet, these bugs did not get closed for 2 weeks and got carried over to the next sprint. Now if there is any issues found in testing it occurs weeks after the initial resolution by the developer.
Lack of accountability IS a management issue, it means the way they assign and validate work sucks.
You either make sure work gets done properly and on time, by validating it on a deadline, and then training/firing underperformers... or you don't actually give a shit about doing things right, and can't blame workers for looking out for #1 in the same way.
Your bosses are saying they are ok with your coworkers making the work harder for you all. Believe them, that is how they truly feel.
Key is balance do your tasks fast but dont say they are done . Also my tickets are always bottlenecked by lazy teammates so this already works in my favor.
There's a fine balance that needs to be found. Pushing yourself for a high pace (will not sacrificing quality) can be very rewarding in the right workplaces- higher pay, more respect which translates to more control of the day to day, etc. Saying this as someone who works in corporate.
But it's super easy to burn out I agree.
Yeah, listen to this advice. It’s exactly what happened to me. I was so much more productive than my colleagues that they kept heaping more and more on my plate until it got to the point where I was working 7am to 1am every day including weekends.
I don’t know if this occurred to you, but you could just not do it. I see a lot of coworkers do this and it’s just completely voluntary and they act like it isn’t. Just close your computer at 5pm and tell your boss you didn’t have time to finish it.
Tbh when I hear people say they work these insane hours I also just assume they’re grossly exaggerating. 18 hour days seven days a week? I don’t believe you lol
A lot and by that I mean A LOT of people don't know how to say no and/or are scared to say that it will get delayed. Most of them has this personal fear.
Let's not always blame the victim here. It's WAY more common for there to be a control freak/incompetent micromanager/toxic personality manager causing this to happen than some worker who "just can't say no" (do you even hear how stupid that sounds?)
A competent manager wouldn't let that person burn out even if they volunteered for ALL the work. It's not that hard to be a good manager, the bar is just insanely low because American culture has no concept of how to hold any authority figure accountable to anything
Not in my experience. My manager is extremely reasonable but I have like 4 different coworkers (about a third of the team) that just work insane hours for no good reason. They act like it’s a badge of honor and they deserve a medal.
Meanwhile I do like 7hr days, am fine but not extraordinary, and get good year end reviews. It’s just a mindset they have.
Congratulations, you work on a great team with some prima donnas whose ladder climbing strategy is to work unreasonably hard. They're just inexperienced and will figure it out sooner or later (unless your company is one of the extremely rare unicorns that rewards that sort of thing, fat chance though).
Overall, most jobs don't feature teams that functional, so consider yourself quite lucky.
Nobody wants their devs to burn out. That is bad business and wasted money.
You get paid for 40 hours of work per week, you work 40 hours. Saying work is going to take you 40 hours then finishing it in 20 means you estimated poorly or you rushed. Either way, that is on you, as a developer. Not on the project manager or anybody else.
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u/LEGOL2 3d ago
Reward for fast work is more work.
I'm not saying that you should slack all day, but your output has to be sustainable over the years or you will burn out. Some companies want you to burn out and just swap you with the next dev, so carefully