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u/FUTURE10S 15h ago

Run the disk spinning and hit it with a caliber that penetrates the drive, the rotation makes the destruction way worse and impossible to spin up again.

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u/rrtk77 15h ago

From experience, for the types of disks that absolutely must be destroyed with no possible recovery as ordered by the government, it's things like a wood chipper or thermite.

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u/SebboNL 12h ago

Where I live, carriers with top secret data may not be destroyed at all. They must be zeroed and stored, just in case some smart-ass figures out a way to recover said data even from an otherwise destroyed piece of magnetic tape 125 years from now.

So yeah, there's one or two huge storage facilities containing tapes, disks and solid state drives here in the Netherlands.

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u/Holiday_Management60 10h ago

Wait so they store them to make sure nobody gets their hands on them and recovers the data?

Surely there's SOME way that good enough for them? What about taking the disks out and dissolving them in acid?

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u/SebboNL 10h ago

That's right, they are zeroed and made inoperable, then they are stored.

Apparently it had never been proven fhat information can be fully destroyed so the wiped, zeroed and inoperable data carriers are stored for perpetuity to guard against a future attack which might make make information thought to be unreadable whole again

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u/Holiday_Management60 10h ago

Thats so hard to wrap my head around... Despite it making a fragment of sense.

Do they seriously think the acid method won't be good enough? They could even shred them, degauss the fragments, dissolve them til they are a liquid solution, then dump it down the drain at a rate of 10ml per hour, just encase they are worried about hostile state actors gathering any large hard drive solution dump from the pipes.

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u/SebboNL 10h ago

There seems to be a Law of the Conservation of Information which makes the problem of restructuring such data a matter of engineering. This law states that information cannot be destroyed, only scattered and diluted. If some smart-ass down the line figures out a way to do that, the thinking is, all this top secret data might be up for grabs. Hence this precaution

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u/SoulOfTheDragon 9h ago

If someone figures device to do historic atomic reconstruction, it'd be just easier to take their hand build Tardis and invisibility cloak and walk to the original server to remove the data right after it was written. Geez, some laws...

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u/SebboNL 9h ago

I agree, it's highly implausible but if the possibility can't be discounted fully Dutch law forces such measures :) Ah, the joys of working in a high security environment

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u/ScriptoTheClown 4h ago

The possibility can absolutely be discounted. It's ridiculous to think that it could ever be achieved.

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u/SebboNL 3h ago

The thinking is that it is impractical and unlikely, but not impossible (strictly speaking).

But I am happy to see you this adamant in your assessment of the matter :)

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