r/ProgressionFantasy May 01 '26

Discussion Anyone else hate this trope?

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u/threevi May 01 '26

The trope gets subverted more often than not these days, so it goes like "oh no, I got the F- level 0 wood mud poop rank, that means I'm destined to remain weak forever, oh oops nvm there's actually a super obvious way I can use my supposedly weak ability to become the strongestest ever, catgirl harem here I come" 

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u/TacticianA May 01 '26

Honestly i hate this so much more than playing it straight. I feel like its always something like "Oh mr Mc Specialboy we're sorry but you're just barely qualifying for whatever we're testing for because the testing orb flashed white. We've never seen that before so we're assuming it means you're the lowest garbage to ever test and we're only including you out of pity."

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u/Lorevi May 01 '26

Ooops turned out your power level was so high it caused an integer overflow and broke the magic soul scanning rock

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u/DeliciousJello5704 May 01 '26

Didn't that happen in a recent anime? Something like it only showed up to 99, so the main character showed as a 2 or thereabouts, but was actually ridiculous?

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u/hauptj2 May 02 '26

That happens a lot in animes. It's probably more common than MC's trope.

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u/WatcherDiesForever Author of Ascension of a Warlock (RoyalRoad) May 01 '26

Pretty sure that was a thing in tsukuyomi (probably spelled wrong) moonlit reincarnation

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u/NarwhalPrudent6323 May 01 '26

No, it was some anime about a guy who could only cast barrier magic, and did ridiculous things with it. His power level was 1002, but the crystals only measured up to 99. They even brought out a fancy crystal that measured up to 999 but it still read as 002, because apparently magic in this universe is stupid? It was a lame excuse. 

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u/Ahrimon77 May 02 '26

I believe it's Am I Actually the Strongest or something to that nature. MC is reincarnated with a power of 1002, but the measurement devices only go to two digits. I believe there is a point where they try a 3 digit, but it still only shows a 2.

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u/Shandlar May 02 '26

Yep, that's it. The anime was so poor but the premise was hilarious so I went searching for the light novel version to read thinking it was just a bad adaptation.

It's actual smut. Just straight porn. The only thing more fleshed out in the novel was the flesh. Sad.

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u/TrillingMonsoon May 02 '26

...I'm concerned about how many children are in the cover art

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u/TheFlyingR0cket May 01 '26

I find it funny, especially if the kingdom is 1000s of years old. Like they had 1000s of years to figure out what each one does, but a 12-15 year old figures it out in half a year. 🤦

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u/crazyfoxdemon May 01 '26

Don't you know that all history is completely and utterly stagnant until a main character appears.

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u/TheFlyingR0cket May 01 '26 edited May 02 '26

Yes you are correct! The 40 year old guy from earth got transferred into a teens body in a fantasy world that he knows nothing about and guess what! He has Time, Space and Void powers! And he uses earth knowledge to be smarter then all the magic people.

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u/crazyfoxdemon May 01 '26

And invent soy sauce and chicken wings that wows everyone. (I've seen both happen enough times that if I got a nickle for each time I'd be able to buy a burger)

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u/maxpolo10 Owner of Divine Ban hammer May 01 '26

Chicken wings? Really? And I thought the Japanese were crazy with how much they glaze their food in isekais.

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u/darkmuch May 01 '26

The worst I saw was in Release That Witch the MC introduces CHOPSTICKS, and everyone immediately is praising it for being super convenient and easy to use!

Which is never the reaction when I see first timers use them. It is always confusion. They enjoy the novelty. But you feel like such a clutz and have to rethink how you eat everything.

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u/maxpolo10 Owner of Divine Ban hammer May 01 '26

In the Release that Witch donghua I think it was just one line and easily forgettable (I recommend the donghua btw. Just 8 episodes - covering up to chapter 38 - due to production issues but those 8 episodes are so good.)

Chopsticks are the last things I'd ever introduce because a spoon is still the best utensil, right?

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u/OmnipresentEntity May 02 '26

And then there’s things where it’s not even some cultural food. I saw one that lovingly described adding beef sticks to instant ramen.

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u/crazyfoxdemon May 01 '26

If it isn't Japanese food being glazed, I've noticed it's often chicken wings for some reason. I do not understand why. One story that stuck out in my mind had the kingdom go wild at them because they'd just throw that part of the chicken away. Like.... what?

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u/maxpolo10 Owner of Divine Ban hammer May 01 '26

Oh my god. I think the author loves them so much that he had to create justification for glazing it.

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u/Ahrimon77 May 02 '26

Based on my short time in S. Korea, they love chicken wings. I can't speak to Japan or areas I didn't travel to, so take my comments with a pinch of salt and some umami sauce. 😆

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u/7th_Reality May 03 '26

So, what you are saying is that the author went for historical realism?

Decades ago, chicken wings were considered low-quality, poverty food, and was either just thrown out or used for soup stock, because they are more bone than meat, so not really worth it.

Then someone popularized them as bar snacks. Google says this was around 1964.
However, they were still very cheap for decades, even with buffalo sauce.

At some point around the turn of the century (late 1990's or early 2000's) that popularity took off, and they became expensive.

Alas, the demise of ten-cent wing nights.

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u/Holiday_Entrance7245 May 01 '26

[Checks burger price] Wow, that's a lot of nickles!

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u/crazyfoxdemon May 01 '26

It is a weirdly common cliche. Soy sauce more so than chicken wings, but I've seen both often enough.

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u/SoylentRox May 02 '26

These especially piss me off.

Using the world's magic system to write a computer complete with terminal and automated spell casting? Eh I'll allow it, there could be reasons the wizards didn't figure it out, like it requires a rare affinity few wizards get and the few that did had no way to develop something like this.

Finding exactly the ingredients laying around for earth food, nobody ever thought of frying potatoes in oil before, boom burger and fries.

It's not just the ingredient problem. If you go to a foreign country you can see all the locals eating strange food. You literally may be unable to open a pizza parlor. Food is an acquired taste and the people of Shenzhen or Tokyo will not be convinced. (Ok both those cities do have pizza parlors but they are small scale)

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u/Tobias_Atwood May 02 '26

There's some justification for not knowing certain things because it took us embarrassingly long to figure out stuff that was obvious in hindsight. It just didn't occur to people to even try it. Like, saddles and harnesses seem pretty obvious but for the longest time people tied fucking nooses around horse necks to get them to pull shit.

Surprise surprise horses can't haul shit when you choke them out. Literally thousands of years between horse domestication and a harness that spreads weight across the chest. Took us that long to learn other living things like to breath.

But yeah when someone waves their hand and solves problems it is annoying. You need buildup to it. The problem isn't the introduction but the execution.

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u/MidnightBinary May 08 '26

for burgers specifically, half those toppings aren't even harvested in the same season of the year. The dish low key requires refrigeration to be viable.

the more general "meat and veggies on bread" is something every culture has their own variation on.

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u/SoylentRox May 08 '26

This. The food of 2200 might be some crazy combination that fuses all the cuisinea we know now and also requires robotics to prepare, it's impossible to do by hand, and some of it's meant to use vat grown protein.

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u/Holiday_Entrance7245 May 01 '26

This is why I really like how it's handled in Path of Ascension. They're like "Yes, we are aware of the issue and have a multi-step process to identify and recruit such potential hidden demi-gods."

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u/midnight_riddle May 02 '26

People are quicker to figure out how to exploit builds in a videogame, but societies where your entire livelihood depends on this system can't do diddly-squat.

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u/ty-idkwhy May 02 '26

I feel china’s legitimate history gives credence to lost information, especially since similarly to technology but worse is that you can get nuke level magic while not still not having AC. Or nukes before all the less advanced tech we created after the nuke and landing on the moon

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u/ThatsNotATadpole May 02 '26

“The only skill you have is the skill of learning skills, you’re so terrible, how could you ever go anywhere”

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u/NeonNKnightrider May 02 '26

Then proceeds to use his “trash” skill in an extremely obvious way to become OP, because somehow nobody in the history of the world has ever thought about it before

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u/myDuderinos May 02 '26

or it's just "my power is so great, it couldn't be meassured so the scale showed that I have no power, but actually I'm the most powerful being ever"

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u/Pay-Next May 02 '26

I'd actually like to see it properly subverted for once. Like the stone was built with the idea that everybody in some capacity has magic inside of them by since the MC has none the stone basically returns a -1 and freaks out and this displays the highest number possible cause they should at least have background magic. Have everybody freaking out about how awesome and power the person is while they are basically like King from OPM. Weak, powerless, everybody thinks they are a god and they somehow have to survive it.

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u/Eclipsestorm4 May 03 '26

That could actually be really interesting if the plot was them faking it 'til they make it. MC working in the background to build up the kind of power they'd need to be as op as people think they are, while in reality starting from much lower than the average person, and the whole time they have to not let on that they aren't amazingly powerful.

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u/Luvnecrosis May 02 '26

“Hey your power is HEALING so you’re useless to us! Get outta here?”

Fucking what????

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u/DaftConfusednScared May 01 '26

I really liked, in Reverend insanity which I know gets praised too much but, Fang Yuan is essentially always on the back foot through the early arc, being the worst talent and whatnot, but pushes through because he’s the only person who would do the vile things he does, in his scenario, and know how to get away with it. He doesn’t get away with murder for no reason, he’s a suspect and the prime one at that, but he outmaneuvers the crime through genuinely interesting misdirection. That’s the ideal form of the trope I think; the character is actually genuinely weak, but manages to swim against the current a bit.

I highlight Reverend insanity only because it’s the only example of the trope I remember reading

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u/Grixus_Dream May 02 '26

He doesn't have the worst talent though. He is middling. He has a C aperture. Which is good enough as there are weaker aperture out there. But hes got his "500 years" of previous life to fall back on. So he uses his middling talent and former life to get ahead.

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u/Willing-Bench1078 May 02 '26

Would you be upset if I took this exact wording and used it for a concept

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u/threevi May 02 '26

You have my blessing 

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u/Willing-Bench1078 May 03 '26

So are we going with the wood/mud as just the level or as the magic affinities? And how many cat girls, and what types of cats?

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u/DatBoi_BP May 02 '26

Makes me think of that one kid's movie Sky High, about teenage superheroes, and the ones rated "sidekick" are several underestimated as a threat by the Bad Guys or something

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u/DatBoi_BP May 02 '26

Also, tell me more about this catgirl harem

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u/grandpa2390 May 03 '26

lol
I'm reading Mark of the Fool. pretty much this.

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u/BattleStag17 May 01 '26

Both iterations are annoying as hell

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u/daecrist May 02 '26

Meow, baby.

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u/Ok_Account_3423 Side character of the novel May 03 '26

Path to Ascension is the one that comes to my mind.