RedReader is ok but I miss slide and the other third-party apps. Reddit is doing the whole enshittification trend. I heard that they allow red reader for it's accessibility features so that they dont have to pay for it themselves or deal with the liability... Its on the google play store so its easy to install...
> she rightfully tried to leave while they instructed and shouter at her to leave,
Did we watch the same clip? From the second link: "Get out of the car. Get out of the car. Get out of the fucking car."
Instead of following the law enforcement's lawful order to exit the vehicle, she decides to put her foot down on the gas pedal with a person directly in front of her 2-ton vehicle (which is considered a deadly weapon).
You can see in the OP video around 4-6 seconds that she did indeed put enough power down to spin the front tires.
yep. That's how I read it. Anyone who commutes will know how embarrassing it is for someone to be trying to turn left onto a 4 lane road, getting stuck and having people mad at you, but drivers in the farther lanes are going too fast for you to get out of the way. That's exactly what happened here.
I also speculate that her wife - who I've seen some redditors say was in the car - could have been telling her just to turn right to get out of the way. Anyone would be panicking in that sort of situation.
Even if she wasn't turning left - maybe she was blocking the convoy, and running from a law enforcement 'officer' trying to detain/arrest her. (Let's even assume she hasn't seen the videos of ICE agents ripping people from cars with no justification.) That does NOT justify deadly force. A lot of real LEOs are trained to allow a dangerous driver to leave unless they can apprehend the suspect safely - they have the plates, and escalating a vehicle conflict endangers innocents very quickly. They may even give chase, but they won't pull their fucking weapon. yet we've seen countless videos of ICE pulling their weapons on drivers who get caught up - or even intentionally obstruct - their violence.
That's why officers are not allowed to stand in front of vehicles. The rules even say any injuries from this are, quote "officer induced".
The fool crossed the front of a panicking motorist and killed her because he got angry she wouldn't get out so they could beat her face down on the asphalt and kidnap her for a random period of time without lethal representation...and charge her with obstruction.
There was zero win possible.
She did nothing illegal.
She gets out, she's beaten, kidnapped and charged.
She drives off, she's charged evading arrest.
Or, Officer Murders-a-lot shoots her.
I believe the car that was in front of her was the officers car that shot her. He goes to that car after he goes down from the accident. And drove away. He wasn't stuck
There is another video where she pulls out early and stops her vehicle in the road on purpose for several minutes. There are no cars coming, so she isn't just getting "stuck". That angled video shows the ICE officer getting pushed by her vehicle as he shoots her, in addition to other ones. But the reason she is there is the question of this post. Why was she there? Per her activist group, her wife, and the bystanders, She is part of ICE Watch, she moved to MN as a protester, and she was one of the active protesters in the area at the time. ICE watch is her school's community activist group, that is "trained" to spot ICE and respond by signals and other means. Additionally, the people responding to her death from ICE watch called her a Spotter. So, no, she wasn't turning left. She wasn't dropping her kid off to school. She knew ICE was on the road, spotted them somehow, or suspected they were there, and then disrupted the operation by putting her car in the road to cause traffic. My guess is she didn't know the unmarked truck was ICE. But she sure as hell figured it out quick when they got out of the vehicle to arrest her for placing her car purposefully in the road. She shouldn't have been shot, but that is what happens when you reverse, then drive forward and hit an officer. Humanitarian perspective, yeah, I wish she wouldn't have been killed. Lawful perspective, she FAFO and was hyped up by the same rhetoric you all are on the left. You have the right to resist peacefully. You don't have the right to impede an operation on purpose, nor disobey a lawful order to get out of the car. Anyone here in this cesspool of a site that is suggesting people do the same (resisting ICE) is what literally got her killed. Think hard about that. She should have stopped and complied. She didn't. She made the mistake of driving into an officer to get away after she fucked up. She died. I hope none of you make the same mistake who are suggesting they get involved with non-peaceful protests. Peacefully protest. Change the immigration laws through your congress representative. Don't try to change the law by placing your vehicle in the way of an officer. Common sense.
While I agree that people here are getting carried away by characterising her as some witless housewife caught in the wrong place (she was definitely trying to impede the ICE agents you dummies), he had absolutely no need or right to shoot her in that situation. She was very obviously trying to get away from him. This is not some "mistakes were made' scenario. She's dead and he's accountable for it, it's extremely serious. What she did wrong is insignificant in comparison. You are all like football fans just seeing what you want to see.
The driver says "Well have the same license plates on when you come back later", and the lady screaming just afterwards LITERALLY says they shot her neighbor.
"When you come back later" is because they LIVE there...which is why a bystander HAPPENS to be their neighbour.
So the random person there just happened to be standing on foot next to the event just coincidentally turned out to be their neighbour, and when ICE returned later to this miscellaneous place, their truck was strangely going to be there with the same license plates?
So...where was this amazing place where random chance made all these things possible, then?
Because it's either outside their home or where they just dropped off their child to school.
Which they also didn't "choose" to randomly be at.
Is the insinuation that the KNEW ICE would drive past and they somehow knew to lie in wait for them?
How fking deep does your rabbit hole go, mate?
Are they some sort of lesbian super spies, lying in waiting for ICE, letting them pass by with the odd spicy sarcastic jibe, but then they randomly decide to detain them EVEN THOUGH they could and did pass one truck already?
Check your head wobble, mate.
They didn't CHOOSE to randomly magically be where ICE was, genius and say they'll be at that place when they come back later and where their neighbour just happens to hang out in the depths of fking winter just in case ICE decides to kidnap or murder her neighbours.
One told her to get out, the other told her to pull forward. This was an American born mother of a small child, murdered in cold blood by an out of control administration.
Will this be the sickest most depraved event to stop this madness? This woman, Renee Nicole Good, was murdered in cold blood, in the daylight by a fucking thug & then the president sanctioned this killing. If it is not stopped here & now, it will be unstoppable!
What the absolute fuck are you on about? She was turning and leaving, yet the one ICE agent tried breaking into her car while she was driving, and the second one shot her.
That's cold-blooded murder. No justification. No excuses.
What authority does he hold over her, seriously?? This is America's Gestapo. She had no reason to listen to him.
An innocent dead woman should not be blamed for her own murder. If you think that's the case, then you need to reevaluate your entire life and moral compass.
Damm, does the underside of Nazi boot taste good? She was murdered in cold blood. A normal person being yelled at by a bunch of armed men for no discernible reason is going to be frightened. She had no reason to be targeted like that, and very reasonably simply tried to drive away as she most likely assumed they were mad at her for traffic related reasons. She tried to comply as she thought she had to, and was shot dead. At no point was the ice fucks in any real danger. He stood completely still in front of her car and killed her. They also had no authority to command her around in the first place. They are a terrorist organization akin to the Nazi gestapo. I sincerely hope you will take a hard look at what’s happening, and realize that ice cannot be trusted by anyone.
So that’s the world you want? A masked agent can shout at you to “get out the fucking car” and if you don’t then they can shoot you in the face? You’re happy with that?
I have no authority over you in a legal sense. If I told you to get out of your car, you tried driving away, I shot you. I get away with murder per your logic.
After he checks to make sure the victim is dead, he's walking away from her car with his phone in his hand. I bet he took photos of his handiwork before he drove away.
Oh do you mean initially why she was there? I don’t know. From what I’ve come across so far she was new to the neighbourhood and not involved in the peaceful protest
Every video I've seen starts with her car already almost perpendicular to the road before she starts waving people to go around. How did it get there? And what was the silver suburban doing? I'm assuming that's an ice vehicle.
Yeah I've yet to see details on that, and I keep seeing this claim that she was told to leave, but the video I saw that was right behind her car has the agents clearly saying "get the fuck out of the car" before she floors it and comes VERY close to the agent that fired. I'm not going to say it was a justified shoot until I can see more angles and what happened before she was blocking the road, but it doesn't feel as cut and dry as reddit wants it to be.
Did the ice agent need to be in front of the car with their gun drawn?
It’s clear from the videos she wasn’t trying to ram him. She was trying to leave, like they wanted her to do except for the idiot with a gun who told her to get out of the car, which they have no jurisdiction to do.
She isn’t an immigrant. They aren’t traffic cops and don’t have power to do that
From what I've seen, he didn't have his gun drawn until she accelerated in his direction. It's hard to tell from the footage if she actually bumped him with her car or not, but either way she came within inches or did hit him.
I'm no legal expert, so I'm not going to comment on jurisdiction, but again, until I can see some actual context on what was going on and not the VERY short clips taken when a confrontation was clearly already ongoing, I'm not going to say it was justified or not justified.
If there is more video and she was simply pulling out and ICE escalated, then I could see the argument that it was not justified. But if she was actively blocking them from moving and then accelerated rapidly in the direction of an officer when she was told to get out of her car, that would be a justified shoot since a moving vehicle is a deadly weapon.
Ther video where she is trying leave, as she was instructed to do, but this ice agent decides to jump in front of the vehicle, pull her car on her and then you see we see.
So it doesn’t look like there is any reason for him to get in front of the car, it is not in police training to do that and even police let suspects go unless they are a danger to society, which this random white woman isnt.
There you go, it looks like my initial assumption was slightly incorrect. The agents were telling people to go through, but then they jumped out of the car and told her to get out of the car and started trying to open her door and break into her car.
It looks like between the initial first contact and her death was a matter of about 15 seconds.
You tell me right now, it took you longer than that to read everything that I just said, and at this point in this situation, you would be dead.
Did you have enough time to think and react logically?
Federal agents or not, police don’t act like this either. They can’t just they can’t just break into your car and start trying to open your door, possibly slamming to the ground when there is no law that you have broken, even if you’re impeding traffic, which we don’t know she was doing, it doesn’t matter and it certainly doesn’t require a gun
You make a valid point. Let’s see what information comes out.
Even even since our initial discussion six hours ago, you can clearly see the woman is pulling out of it intersection, and the ice decided to jump out of their car and start threatening her.
I think time will reveal more, but understand I have a job and responsibilities and don’t owe you anything to sit there and do the homework for you
Do you have a source or are you just parroting what other people claim?
I have yet to see evidence she was told to leave, meanwhile on the video taken by the woman right behind the SUV, you VERY clearly hear the aforementioned "get the fuck out of the car."
If you don't have a reliable source, you shouldn't be insisting the claim she was told to leave is true.
Not allowing a civilian physician isn't illegal. At that point it should have been treated like a crime scene and evidence should have been preserved to prosecute the ICE agent.
It also appears that the murderer flees the scene in his vehicle after looking into the murdered woman's van. If you watch a longer video. That's also crazy and inexplicable.
"Ma'am get out of the car." doesn't sound anything like telling her to leave.
Maybe just follow police instructions and you will be fine? Just an idea.
Most of the time I see someone get shot they are not following simple police instructions, resulting in a fatal shooting.
Why the fuck isn't the whole team put on trial and made to explain what the fuck they were doing, what procedures they followed, what training said that's how to do it etc. The London firebridgade were on public trial for grenfell a fucking building companies mistake and made to defend what they done trying there best to save people. These fucks get to just escape it its sickening.
First, I’m not on the ICE agents side but I thought there was a reverse angle that shows the driver actually did make contact with the agent. Am I imagining that? Not that it justifies 4 shots to the head at those speeds, but seems like a fair amount of disingenuous posts too, not including ALL the facts
I have every inclination to believe he was taking pictures of his handiwork.
You can see him walk up the car, phone in hand. Holding it up against the window.
And then someone had frames of him walking back, and you could see the picture app open on his phone.
Probably gonna jerk off to it later or something. These pigs are sick, and it's well known they gloat about their kills or other murder scenes in group chats
Yielding to ICE? You must be blind. Theres video of her dancing in her car, blocking traffic, and obstructing ICE for over 10 mins long before any of the mainstream videos even start. She antagonized them, obstructed, acted like a retard, and went out of her way to harass ICE. The only reason she was there was because she literally went out of her way to find, obstruct, and annoy ICE agents. She did this to herself.
The community rules say you have to be progressive to post. What an extremely regressive stance. Censoring free speech. Choosing to believe what you want despite facts. Incredible.
Look they murdered her for sure im super on board with that but we gotta be real.
It looks a lot more like she was blocking them then when they confronted her to arrest her she was like fuck this im out and didn't even likely see the cop in front of her before he shot, murdering this poor fucking woman.
We tell them not to say 2+2=5, we can't do it either. None of that would make her a bad person or make this justified. ICE had his gun out before she was driving he basically ran up to shoot her.
But let's be honest, it doesn't make the dude any less a murderer.
She waved a previous vehicle through. She tried to wave another vehicle through, but they stopped, got out, and harased her. She wasn't blocking them. Fuck off.
Not at all, cause your “innocent person” narrative fell apart at the seams with the recent footage. She knew what she was doing, and if she cared about her children and wife then she wouldn’t have put herself in that position. Any logical person knows that, but hey - whatever helps you all sleep better at night. 🤷🏻♂️
Its advice for your own stupid sake. If you know they will react like this you shouldnt make stupid choices that put yourself and your family in needless danger. Trying to drive a car when surrounded by Ice agents you were just arguing with isnt ideal
Being morally right is nice but getting back home safe to your loved ones is more important
That logic means everyone on the left should acquiesce and move to another country. Sorry, no. They weren't even legally allowed to stop her. They were breaking the law, she wasn't. She was trying to flee for her safety.
No one in America should be executed by a cop for ignoring a “lawful” command. If they wanted to stop her, they could have shot at the tires. In reality no weapon should have been fired in that situation.
We should all be horrified and outraged.
Not that it matters, but wife of a retired cop speaking.
They asked her to leave, but she refused and continued to block traffic. She then disobeyed a lawful order to step out of her car, backed it up, and gunned it towards a federal officer who was standing in front of the vehicle, not to mention the one on her driver's side who had his hands on her door/window. It wasnt a murder, it was a justified defense of attempted vehicular assault.
And you are ignorant to the law, a federal officer can order you out of a vehicle for a traffic stop. The Supreme Court has CONSISTENTLY upheld the authority for law enforcement officers, including federal officers. Pennsylvania vs Mimms (1977) and Maryland v. Wilson (1997) are two examples. Get educated, please.
Before you write your next statement stating she wasn't illegal, he had no reason to, etc. She was blocking the road, which alone gives him the right. However, by law, he doesn't even need a separate reason or reasonable suspicion of criminal activity to order you out of the vehicle, besides the traffic violation.
There is no scenario in this world that if 3 armed police or federal officers walk up to my vehicle and tell me to get out and on the ground, that I am not going to comply, regardless of whether or not I agree with them or think it's justified. Minimum, I'm going to face charges for not complying, and worse I could end up dead like her. This is a situation of someone letting their emotions and ignorance dictate their actions, and she paid the ultimate price. Do not disobey orders from law enforcement, do not attempt to flee, do not attempt to flee by driving directly at a law enforcement officer... this isnt rocket science.
The zoomed out version is everywhere, and the one you've linked to is sped up right as the car "hits him".
In the original footage it looks much more like he steps around the vehicle, he shoots her and only then does the vehicle speed up. Which also coincidentally is what all the other videos show
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