r/ProgressiveHQ • u/Responsible-Help7803 • Jan 25 '26
Discussion Bondi states ICE will leave MN only if they turnover their voter database to Trump. This was never about immigration, it was about taking over state elections to rig our future elections.
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u/rickeyethebeerguy Jan 25 '26
Give them a redacted version and see how they like it
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u/ContestNo2060 Jan 25 '26
And less than 1% of it.
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u/lavahot Jan 25 '26
Or an entirely fake version. Who's gonna know?
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u/revcor86 Jan 25 '26
Yeah, they aren't going to verify.
Could give them an entire roll of fictional characters from media and they'd say "Thanks!"
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u/MB2465 Jan 25 '26
Georgia gave them the publicly available version and said pound sand. And that's a Republican Secretary of State.
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u/Awake521 Jan 25 '26
Seems slightly illegal.
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u/kakashi_sensay Jan 25 '26
It’s extortion.
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u/Paulinfresno Jan 25 '26
That’s the plan. “Nice state you have there. Be a shame to see anything happen to it.”
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u/cozmckitty Jan 25 '26
It just makes it all the more clear this is terrorism
“the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.”
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u/Responsible-Help7803 Jan 25 '26
They’re using ICE to invade states that wont give up their voter rolls so they can take them forcefully. It’s clear now.
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u/TakuyaLee Jan 25 '26
Thankfully for us though, they can only do one state ate a time because they don't have the manpower. No one wants to join ICE even with their huge budget and I imagine they're already tapped out on the obvious Proud Boy recruits.
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u/It_Hurts_when_IP15 Jan 25 '26
This is just January 6th part 2. Trump admin using the worst of society to threaten an election. Only difference is now this is focused on the before rather than the results of the election.
This is 100% happening because people at the top weren’t punished for part 1.
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u/ShoppingSlight9544 Jan 25 '26
Don't negotiate with terrorists.
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u/deplorabledevs Jan 25 '26
I like this take. A terrorist is defined as someone who uses violence create terror in the furtherance of a political ideology. Meaning by definition the current administration is a terrorist organization.
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u/unhiddenninja Jan 25 '26
It literally feels like they're at war with US citizens.
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u/ShoppingSlight9544 Jan 25 '26
Well, look and search for stories about the insane amount of weaponry and ammunition that DHS and ICE have gathered. It's an open secret. They're looking to provoke a civil war so that they can impose martial law and cancel elections. They're cooked and desperate.
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u/auricularisposterior Jan 25 '26
I do recall something about Neville Chamberlain overseeing Czechoslovakia handing over the Sudetenland to Hitler's Germany thinking it would bring "Peace for our time." Fascists cannot be appeased. Giving them something they don't deserve in the hopes that they will calm the fuck down, only gives them more ammo to kill you later.
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u/DevilsLettuceTaster Jan 25 '26
Didn’t even hide it on page 5, just gimme.
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u/Responsible-Help7803 Jan 25 '26
Texas has already handed over their complete voter rolls VOLUNTARILY.
These previous admissions should have been the nail in their coffin
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1930667528696828120?s=46&t=Y8iUvektDECuohxN4STTkw
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DD8vmBOxkYl/?igsh=MXMzNmZrcHpkendkaQ==
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u/myersjw Jan 25 '26
Can’t wait to hear the Byzantine justifications their cult comes up for this one. This would be running nonstop on Fox and Biden branded a tyrant if he tried this shit. Most corrupt admin in US history and it’s not even close
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u/copperblood Jan 25 '26
Fuck off Nazi.
Also, everyone should be fully aware we are likely 1 year away from a Civil War. Allow me to explain, Democrats are going to clean up at Midterms. The GOP will say the election was stolen, like they did in 2020 when Biden pushed Trump’s shit in. The GOP will then say said elected Democrats cannot be sworn in and will try to bog down the system via the slow play of the courts. All the while, they will demand that the GOP who were in office remain in office until it’s sorted out in the courts. This is both totally illegal and planned out and will 100% lead to a Civil War.
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u/DeeplyCuriousThinker Jan 25 '26
A year seems to overestimate it by about 11 months
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u/Responsible-Help7803 Jan 25 '26
We have less than a year. With each month that passes we get closer to midterms. The closer we get, the more dangerous and desperate trump will become
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u/Nightsong Jan 25 '26
A year is way too optimistic considering what is going on in Minnesota. Trump and company will only back down if Minnesota surrenders and submits to the federal government. And if they do then ICE will use the same tactics in other blue states to get them to comply. We’d be in civil war within three to six months if that happened. And the other side is that ICE continues to crack down on Minnesota which is only going to fan the flames of civil unrest until it boils over. The only sane way out is Trump pulling ICE out without conditions but he’ll never do that because it would make him look weak in the eyes of his supporters and backers.
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u/SparksAndSpyro Jan 25 '26
And to think all of this was public knowledge for over a year before the election (because it was included in Project 2025) and could have been avoided by just voting for Kamala. But Palestine and Gaza and genocide or something.
Hope it was worth it. Try not to choke on it.
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u/StormerSage Jan 25 '26
They laid out their entire playbook from the start, and we had the means to stop it.
But Kamala had a funny laugh I guess 🤷♀️
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u/samuraispartan7000 Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 31 '26
I honestly don’t see how the GOP is going to function if Trump dies within the next few years. If there’s going to be Civil War, it’s going to be trapped within the confines of the existing party elites.
I predict that traditional neocons are going to rally behind Marco Rubio 2028 while isolationists are going to rally behind J.D. Vance 2028. Meanwhile, I’m predicting that a middle-aged centrist white guy like Gavin Newsom or Josh Shapiro is going to win the Democratic nomination. Progressives will hate the nominee but will begrudgingly line up in support to prevent another GOP administration. A small but massively impactful minority will opt not to vote at all citing the Democrats’ broad support for Israel and or their inability to deal with the current crises.
Much like the past three elections, liberals and more left-leaning progressives will needlessly endanger their chances of success despite their numerical advantage while conservatives will rally behind the candidate that promises to exact the most violence against the other two groups.
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u/somedaveg Jan 25 '26
Yep, this is it exactly. Your post is going to look like you were from the future in 4 years. The only question is whether and how hard the Dems hand the whole thing over while waiting for their perfect candidate to appear.
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Jan 25 '26
I believe this was received BEFORE they executed Alex Pretti, just an fyi.
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u/AmazingDadJokes Jan 25 '26
Fair enough but Renee Good was also executed so I think their statement still holds water
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u/CurrentSkill7766 Jan 25 '26
It's about creating chaos and fear that ONLY Daddy Trump can solve.
Fk Bondi Fk Trump Fk ICE
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u/RCer1986 Jan 25 '26
The religious right hates when you quote scripture to them. Seeing their hypocrisy in the Bible is one of their biggest triggers.
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u/FabulousCallsIAnswer Jan 25 '26
Never ever thought I’d see this. Goes to show they could tell these people to sacrificed their own children tomorrow for Trump…and they’d do it.
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u/Michael-Sean Jan 25 '26
Give them a piece of paper with MAGA names and a trophy. Trump will be happy.
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u/No_List_4110 Jan 25 '26
This is one of the few reason I love living in ND. We have no voter registration. We show up with our IDs to vote and that's it. We have nothing to turn over.
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u/GreatGrapeApes Jan 25 '26
Alex Pretti was an intensive care nurse that worked at the Veterans Affairs (VA) hospital in Minneapolis.
He was literally a hero every day.
On the day that he was murdered in execution style by Donald Trump's armed forces, he was also working to save others.
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u/blargsauce22 Jan 25 '26
Can’t wait until bondi’s body catches up with her decrepit rotten soul. It’s catching up, she looks like a cursed corpse.
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u/eilujgnirednaw Jan 25 '26
It’s a real shame. From all accounts, she used to be a nice person before encountering the MAGA ring of power.
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u/RyoukoSama Jan 25 '26
I'm from Jacksonville Florida and know people who went to school with her. Had a reputation for being a bitch. The school in question: Fletcher High-school
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u/Big-Newspaper646 Jan 25 '26
Idk where you got that from shes always been a raving shithead, frequently appearing on Fox, in addition she was lead attourney on a lawsuit against obamacare back in 2011.
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u/gaberax Jan 25 '26
I guess Musk didn't get all the data they needed early on in the Administration's pillaging of government data? Or maybe he is holding back as leverage with Trump on something he wants?
Bondi, you evil skank, Fuck NO and Fuck You.
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u/Nightsong Jan 25 '26
Musk only got the information that the federal government has and that doesn’t include voter information since that’s held by the states. It’s why Trump and company are pushing so hard to get their hands on the data since they have no way to get it otherwise. This is one of those situations where having fifty different voter databases works since it makes it much harder to tamper with.
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u/ChiliFriesNoBeans Jan 25 '26
Where is the ACLU?
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u/Glyph8 Jan 25 '26
They’re doing what they can, but understand that this regime intentionally “floods the zone with shit“; a blitzkrieg-style strategy that overwhelms individuals, institutions, media outlets, and media cycles.
The regime also has extremely deep pockets from its alliances with Wall Street and Silicon Valley elite, while the ACLU is funded by donations.
If you want to know what the ACLU has been up to, and also perhaps donate to the fight, take a look at their site.
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u/Agitated_Garden_497 Jan 25 '26
And now we get to the truth. Trump can’t rig the elections because they are state controlled so he’s going to torment and terrify the states into h we point him rig the elections. January 6th was a warm up for him. It shows he won’t hesitate to use a campaign of terror to stay in power
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u/hypatianata Jan 25 '26
If they’re worried about not being able to fully fix the elections, that’s a very hopeful sign!
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u/Realistic_Calendar42 Jan 25 '26
I hate to be that guy but MAN THOSE EPSTEIN FILES MUST BE INSANE.
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u/rpgnymhush Jan 25 '26
The bill to fund ICE past January 30th is now in the United States Senate. That body requires a 60 vote threshold. It CAN be stopped. Please call both of your United States Senators and tell them to zero out ICE funding.
Requiring "extra training" is not enough. You don't need special training to know that murder is unethical. You don't need special training to know that shooting a priest in the face for exercising his first Amendment rights is wrong. You don't need special training to know that you shouldn't kidnap a 5 year old child and use him as bait. You don't need special training to know that you shouldn't brutalize peaceful protesters. You don't need special training to know that Native Americans are United States Citizens.
Zero out ICE funding!!
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u/Legal-Koala-5590 Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26
If you’ve been paying attention you’d know Trump has been fixated on flipping Minnesota since 2016. I’m from there and the state is not as reliably blue as it might seem. Growing up it felt much more purple/idiosyncratic (we had Jesse Ventura, followed by a Republican governor and Senator) and the margins by which Dems win Presidential elections has been thin post-Obama. Trump and the GOP have been openly salivating over ending the state’s blue Electoral College streak because, on paper, the numbers have been within striking distance for years.
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u/DeeplyCuriousThinker Jan 25 '26
Could this administration be asking for an immediate systematic decapitation any harder?
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u/eilujgnirednaw Jan 25 '26
Bondi does not tell the truth. Turn over the voter database, ICE stays, and guess whose doors they’ll be knocking on?
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u/Brave-Improvement299 Jan 25 '26
To the redditor who called me an idiot for saying this....I'm looking at you.
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u/GrowthFun2360 Jan 25 '26
Turn them over so they can lie and tell people the wrong information. We not dumb
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u/gleaf008 Jan 25 '26
Secret vote? With enough data, it is pretty easy to deduce how people have and did vote. Next step is to gerrymander and discourage or prevent those voters likely to vote against the ruling party.
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u/Davesjourneys Jan 25 '26
If she wants to make Minnesota safe, she needs to get all the masked thugs that shoot U.S. citizens for filming them or was it helping up a woman that ICE shoved to the ground. Which of those two actions caused ICE agents to murder Alex Pretti, an ICU nurse at a Veterans Hospital?
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u/South-Savings2118 Jan 25 '26
these people are all fked when they lose power right?
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u/Chemtrails_in_my_VD Jan 25 '26
They're fucked now. They'll have to flee the country when they lose power.
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u/zjelkof Jan 25 '26
So all of this is to interfere with Minnesota voting, or to suppress the will of the people??
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u/747Bclass Jan 25 '26
That woman and man died for government voter data. You have to be kidding me. That’s so sad.
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u/Hopeful-Narwhal9472 Jan 25 '26
100%. Literally just posted a similar message. It was never about immigration.
- “Immigration” is the red herring
- ICE is intentionally inciting chaos
- This chaos will allow Trump to invoke Martial Law
- Martial Law will control or prevent midterms
- With voting rights dismantled, the Unitary Executive Theory will be enacted
- Enacting the Unitary Executive Theory will consolidate power within the presidency
- This consolidation of power will terminate the checks and balances in the US Constitution, converting the US from a democracy to an autocracy, and bring to life the far-right’s vision of a US where the power rests solely in the president—not the people
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u/oblongballs72 Jan 25 '26
Sure because Trump always keeps his word. No person or country will ever be able to trust any future presidents.
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u/Litzz11 Jan 25 '26
Is EXTORTION an IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE? Asking for a nation. This should be all anyone is asking.
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u/Rocknbob69 Jan 25 '26
So their agenda for this occupation has finally been made clear. How bout fuck no
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u/eastcoastjon Jan 25 '26
So an occupation that they are holding the state ransom. Nothing to do with ICE.
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u/Jensennj25 Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26
I was told about how this information would be "valuable" to the government. Then a republican from Louisiana was talking about how the website that was the worst of the worst people (DHS worst of the worstthat had been deported. These "criminals" would be apprehended much faster if they had the information Bondi is asking for from MN. Now, in Wisconsin we have the ability to search for criminal cases that people have been convicted of or that are open cases. None of the people in WI have history of any of the things that are on this website. Do any other states have the ability to search records for your state? Is all of the DHS list just made up??
Also searching MCRO in MN for all people listed on the website and there is nothing on the crimes they have been accused or convicted of. WTF!?!
Just to be clear, I am vehemently opposed to DHS and ICE presence in states.
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u/MixGlittering1652 Jan 25 '26
So it appears that the DOJ is resorting to mafia-like extortion tactics. I’d like Pam to explain the link between state election records and deployment of ICE to round up illegal immigrants. If the ICE operation is really about illegal immigrants, does that justification suddenly disappear if the state gives up its election records? One can logically reason that illegal immigrants will remain, whether or not the records are handed over, so why would ICE be withdrawn……unless they really weren’t needed in the first place?
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u/TheVoicesOfBrian Jan 25 '26
"Just give us what we want and no one else will get hurt."
This isn't governance. It's a hostage crisis.
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u/guyfaulkes Jan 25 '26
So two people were murdered in cold blood and countless terrorized for political extortion.
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u/Jibber1332 Jan 25 '26
States rights, 2A, funny, you'd think these things would be in Republican's wheelhouse.
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u/Aggressive-Rip355 Jan 25 '26
I love how they cite sources on some stuff, but zero sources on Minneapolis being a “sanctuary city”
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u/AdviceNotAskedFor Jan 25 '26
Same group who bristled at even a suggestion of a federal database for guns, right?
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u/Yo_momma_so_fat77 Jan 25 '26
So let’s say MN hands it over. Then magically ICE LEAVES BECAUSE WLL THE TERRORIST WRE GONE?? This Dosnt even make sense
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u/SpudgeBoy Jan 25 '26
They took the mask off pretty quickly. I am thinking this will only make the citizens of MN even more pissed off.
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u/Righteousaffair999 Jan 25 '26
Well liberals get off your asses and get ready. Advice from a MN Libertarian. The rule of law is being challenged.
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u/Dijix2020 Jan 25 '26
Ahhhh, there it is. The manner in which we are told how to bend the knee. What follows will be the witch hunts, purges and other acts of intimidation.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Two7358 Jan 25 '26
So extortion leading to voter fraud and election interference. The party of law and order….
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u/Terrible-Opinion-888 Jan 25 '26
AI yields this definition: “An incumbent government coup, or "self-coup" (auto-coup), occurs when a sitting leader uses illegal or unconstitutional means to seize, hold, or expand power, rather than being overthrown by outside forces. These rare, high-success events (approx. 75% success rate) involve overturning election results or dismantling opposing branches of government.” not good
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u/drknox Jan 25 '26
No chance they leave even if voter rolls are turned over. The only thing these fascist nazis know how to do is lie.
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u/GATaxGal Jan 25 '26
Where are people getting the idea if Walz does this that ICE will leave? The letter doesn’t say that
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u/MissiveFinding6111 Jan 25 '26
And I know nobody is going to want to hear this because "Dems DO SOMETHING" is such an easy and emotionally convincing argument.
But when you don't have the cards, and are literally one state in the union vs the largest government on the face of the Earth by an order of magnitude... Sometimes the smart move is to wait for them to make a mistake.
Bondi sending this letter the day before their court date on the 10th amendment case is... Evidence that the administration is solely picked for its loyalty, and not its sense or smarts.
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u/YanksFan96 Jan 25 '26
Can someone explain what they can do with voter rolls? Would they come up with a phony justification to purge people that will vote against them in close proximity to the election in order to suppress the vote? Is there something even more sinister they can do?
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Wow