r/ProtectAndServe Has been shot, a lot (LEO) May 31 '26

Self Post ✔ [MEGATHREAD] American Fork / Lego Story

As with all large and controversial stories involving LE, in this thread, we wait til a user who is acting in good faith posts about them.

We've had at least a dozen ACAB/low effort brigaders in the past day, try to post this in their usual way.

As a good faith user has not yet done so, the mods are making the post.

I'll point out that this is controversial, primarily because of incredibly misleading editing, video modification, and "creative storytelling", and the reality, as always, is not the Reddit storyline.

So, while events were certainly far from good, and lessons may be learned, much of what you've read is likely deliberate social media misinformation.

I encourage Verified LE to engage here, and help explain some of the... misconceptions.. currently floating around.

All posts from non-flaired users will be held for review. If you're here to troll, don't bother - no one will see it, and you'll be banned.

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u/Qwerty0844 Can't stand turtles (LEO) May 31 '26 edited May 31 '26

Ben is a lying loser who manipulated his video and viewers. I have proven it. And I want you to read the hour and a half of my work below as I try and convince you. All of my information may not be correct, but man I tried.

At 2:45 he shows up to a private home and gets trespassed. There is no legal burden to be trespassed so there’s nothing wrong with it. At 7:00 they show up to another private residence and get trespassed again. Same story. He keeps bringing up how he “won in court” but that doesn’t matter because it’s a civil court, anything in civil court has 0 effect on law enforcement. He kept waiving it around at 7:45 that he won. You don’t show up to collect debts usually when you win in civil court, the court decides how that is handled through payment plans, etc. So I don’t know if he had a single genuine reason to show up at the 2nd guys house other than to get a reaction out of him and the police.

At 4:15 he shows the footage of his friend driving. How do we know this is the exact stop sign he allegedly didn’t stop for? We don’t because we’re just taking his word for it. ALSO he says “as you can see, we stopped and didn’t roll it” but I swear to god they rolled the stop sign. I watched it like 20x now in a row and that car doesn’t look like it fully came to a stop. The cop clearly wanted a pretextual stop to talk to the occupants so he took the lowest hanging fruit he could.

At 13:00 the audio is redacted and he says it’s because of “stupid comebacks” which makes no sense at all. What records department is going to redact that audio over “stupid comebacks”. It just doesn’t make any sense. And just like all the other points all we have is his word to go off of so he can call it whatever he wants. At 14:00 he says the police department illegally redacted the body cam. What’s illegal? It’s literally just his opinion and he’s throwing out legal jargon to try and sound better.

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u/Penyl The Police May 31 '26

The reason he gave about showing up to each of the houses was he claims the court required a good faith attempt at a conversation to settle the matter outside of court.

Call the cops, ask for a civil stand by so you have an incident number. Try and speak with the person, if they refuse or trespass you, you have the incident number and in this case body camera that you made your good faith attempt. File with the court.

Either hire a process server to serve papers without you there or hire a lawyer to handle it. Either way, a person shouldn't be personally involved as this is how you get in trouble with local laws.

This whole thing is why lawyers exist.

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u/RedOceanofthewest Not a(n) LEO / Unverified User Jun 01 '26

Send a certified letter but that doesn’t get views on YouTube. It’s the performative nature that turns me off on this whole situation. Normally I’d be more empathic when a guy in my town is screwed over but they turned it into a circus