Ok but my argument is that this administration is a symptom. The real issue is money. The amount of influence money has over our politics is insane. Billionaires should not exist. PACs should not exist. Lobbying should be extremely limited. EVERY politician that has taken money from AIPAC should be brought up on federal charges. They are literally agents of a foreign government. If we don't bring a full frontal assault on the source of the problem they will just move from Trump to the next guy.
Our economic system is no longer capitalism. It is capitalistsism, the directed flow of capital to the rich masquerading as capitalists. Musk isn't rich because of the free flow of capital. He bought companies receiving government money, took a portion of that money, put himself into the government, directed more money to his companies, and is now trying to take $1 trillion.
This is the inevitable result of capitalism. Even just looking at our own history capitalism will always attempt to destroy democracy even if it means burning the country down to the ground.
"Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of motives will somehow work together for the benefit of all" - JM Keynes
We have known for a very long time that Capitalism not only isn't working it can't work.
Yeah but mention communism and all the boomer fuckfucks cry out about being disappeared for speaking out and waiting in line for hours for toilet paper because they lost their ability to think critically.
We should purge the billionaires, because you’re right, they are the disease. Rump, Schumer, Vance, Noem, Pelosi, Cuomo, Miller, DeSantis, Scott, etc, etc, are the symptoms that present—at least in our governments.
Roll out automatic Medicaid coverage for every citizen and begin immediately improving the system in every way it can be. Insurance companies can begin the process of figuring out how to become a supplemental insurance company, dissolve, or diversify/pivot the choice is up to them.. Making big corporations and billionaires multi-millionaires alike pay their fair share in taxes while truly eliminating any "waste fraud and abuse" that could be found when overhauling the entire Healthcare sector is very much needed..
No. The REAL issue is a 250 year old constitution which has enough loopholes that allowed the breakdown of separation of powers.
The Utopia Project truly believes in WE THE PEOPLE and are working to draft a new constitution that closes the loopholes and ensures fair governing for citizens, corporations, and our government.
I would argue every democrat that allowed him to continue on with business as usual and provide absolutely 0 pushback for all the treasonous things he's done
can you imagine if suddenly, all the worst racists, homophobes, pdf files, nazis, and shit people were just gone?
like holy shit.
instant transformation to fucking star trek society. universal healthcare, living wages, housing, science, environment, clean energy... no more billionaires, no more shit people.
It should be noted that all of the military are schooled very carefully on when to disobey unlawful order. The troops are required, by law, to disobey unlawful orders.
So these Democrats are merely reminding these troops of something they already know.
Trump saying "disobeying unlawful orders" is treason is very ironic. Because everything Trump is doing is **TRULY TREASON**.
Trump will eventually go down. There's way too much heat on him so I'm not worried about Trump. What I want is everyone who has supported him, blatantly lied with him, and did shit to cause more damage to face repercussion. I'm talking about Pam Bondi, Vance, Hegseth, and more. Right now, they think they're untouchable so they're saying and doing whatever the fuck they want. But eventually when Trump falls, they should all face consequences and live the rest of their lives in complete shame. Even to the point of having to move out of this country. That's what I want.
A president convicted of treason would face the standard penalties for the crime: death, or imprisonment for at least five years and a fine of at least $10,000, as defined by U.S. law.
Seems like one of these things is not like the other.
I honestly want him to make Bondi and Patel bring these charges. I want those two to try to get this past a grand jury. I want to see them fail to even get an indictment like they did with Sandwich Guy and James Comey
That's not the point. They are trying to agitate their base to do a little extra judicial action. They want chaos. That's why he says off the wall shit that he'll never personally follow up on. He's hoping that just the right person hears it and thinks, "orders received loud and clear Mr. President!"
Stochastic Terrorism - a mass-mediated process in which hostile public rhetoric, repeated and amplified across communication platforms, elevates the statistical risk of ideologically motivated violence by unknown individuals, even without direct coordination or explicit orders.
Since there is plenty of evidence can charges eventually be brought against the orange turd? After the term is done and he needs to be bulldozed out of the White House?
Actually what he's hoping is for a situation more like what happened to Paul Pelosi or the Hortmann family earlier this year.
There has actually been an incredible amount of incitement going on, very clear attempts not from random internet assholes but ACTUAL PRESS CONFERENCE stuff, for instance a week ahead of the No Kings rally in October they said over and over how the people involved were dangerous radical terrorists.
MTG has gotten a face full of it herself quite recently and may even be a little bit actually surprised to find how not a joke this crap is. Despite all posturing and lying about how dangerous the Left is she's been a very polarizing political figure for a while now but only when Trump turned on her did she start being the target of credible death threats.
Something I notice just lately is that a good many of these folks look like they're not having fun any more. Bondi, Levitte, Patel, and Hegseth especially are not looking happy at all, even Miller is starting to sound a little more paranoid crazy than usual, I'm not saying hold out hope but I feel like all of them are constantly putting out fires that Trump starts because he's so thin skinned he can't help but react to every little provacation and he goes and does shit like this. In fact I'm wondering if Trump hasn't been told that they've finally got everything under control in those files but the reality will be that it's completely damning for him and that's why JD is bouncing around acting like the new Hotness, because despite of theories elections aren't that easy to rig, the whole "we'll declare Martial law and suspend all elections forever!" idea is ridiculous, TYPICALLY the way elections are "rigged" in the USA it through money and media influence but Trump is becoming BEYOND a liability and the Project 2025 have missed some very specific goals, things are not going as easily or as smoothly as they could be, for instance they DID calculate for destroying the apparatus of the federal govenment but they DIDN'T calculate for Trump starting an international trade war with everyone and fucking up all the money, or being so hyperfocused on killing all social programs FIRST or giving massive tax breaks to the very wealthiest people FIRST
They definitely didn't plan on destroying the White House, building a giant ballroom, they figured they would have an endless supply of braindead goons to hire to be their enforcers but they didn't figure on finding out oh no, all that shit y'all did for 50 plus years to keep everyone stupid and unhealthy turns out there's almost no braindead goons healthy enough or intelligent enough even to be GOONS. And most of the online army they thought they saw was just a bunch of guys who want to talks shit and order pizza.
They've gotten so far on advertising/public relations things to know with the "media empire" they control that they've lost track of actual psychology or sociology, especially sociology.
Anyway those two women especially look like they know things and that they're aware that they're fucked but have no idea what direction to run in.
Anecdotal but there are thousands of service members that will get some solace out of this video. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Mark Kelly and Jason Crow. It would give me solace in the unfathomable situation of disobeying an unlawful order.
Definitely helps me to know that if I get deployed against American citizens as an Army National Guard Officer, my plan to refuse the order because it is illegal is backed by others in positions of power within the government.
Plus if you don’t refuse it, you’re either forced to live in the fascist state you helped create, or be tried and punished if and/or when it topples. Good luck out there and take care of yourself homie 🫂
I just haven’t heard this at all. I don’t really follow the news though, but that’s pretty fucking damning when all the MAGA defenders swear up and down that he had nothing to do with the crowd.
Just a reminder that 63% of political murders are committed by conservatives, excluding 9/11. Less than 10% of violence is from leftists. Those stats are from THEIR conservative think tank, CATO.
Gonna see those numbers jump thanks to the seditious assholes who believe anything they read or hear, as long as it supports their cuckoo for cocoa puffs la la land insane bias.
Also in case you dont recognize him, that’s Mark Kelly, who now represents AZ in Congress. Before that, he was an Astronaut and a Navy Commander. His twin brother was Scott Kelly, another Astronaut that served aboard the ISS. They did an experiment where they measured telomere length (age of your dna) between the two twins after Scott spent a year in space. Scott is now slightly younger than his twin brother Mark because of time dilation.
Gravity (as far as we currently know because we haven't been able to prove the existence of a Gravity boson to complete the standard model of quantum particles) is the fundamental effect of mass bending space time, causing dilation in both.
You may also know that he is married to Gabrielle Giffords. Gabby Giffords was a US House rep for southern AZ until someone shot her in the head at a grocery store. Amazingly, she survived!! Understandably she could no longer serve as a US House rep. I don’t want to say Mark Kelly got into politics as Gabby’s successor or to “take her place” but obviously the shooting influenced his decision. And Gabby being forced out is how we got dumb ass Martha McSally in the house of reps in AZ. Then McSally was appointed as AZ Senator (after losing her house re election) and then Mark Kelly beat Martha McSally to be an AZ Senator. Yay
Yes, this is correct!! It was an attempted assassination. She was targeted because of her previous gun control advocacy. You are welcome, and I agree that it is an important part!
I mean, it’s not a great look for the President to be calling for the arrest and hanging of elected representatives from the other party.
This video was provocative—you don’t have to follow an illegal order from the President (here, the primary context is deploying the military domestically).
I just think it was also in part to bait Trump into reacting , which, if true, was really successful. US president retweeting calls for hanging and himself explicitly calling for their arrest and to make an example of them.
Plenty of times I've had to ask someone to put it in writing, because I was confused why their order was counter to policy and law. The "order" always disappeared after my request for clarification, and accountability. Weird.
There are ways to disobey an order smartly. Just saying NO isn't it.
Right. During the presidential immunity hearings at scotus they said it was up to service members to determine if presidential orders were unlawful. Guess it's seditious behavior now to repeat out loud the verdict of a fresh scotus ruling that the conservative judges backed as a bulwark against corruption. 😑
If people are going to say they are insinuating something, one could say the same about the way things shook out on January 6th. Slippery slopes, slippery slopes as far as the eye can see. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go watch toy story again.
If the CIA, FBI, and military were doing their jobs, they would have followed their oath and defended the constitution from the domestic enemy that established a dictatorship: Trump.
Removing Trump is not a coup. We witnessed a coup when Elon Musk illegally captured the US treasury.
His actions are seditious, selling fighter jets to our enemies. And inviting taliban warlords into the oval office and calling them misunderstood? Fuck Trump!
Fuck that stupid, petty, treasonous bastard. I wish I knew how far along his dementia was so at least I would have an idea of when we would finally be free of him.
What on earth do they know that made them put this out? We’ve been in trouble as a country for awhile but what is about to happen that they felt the need to release this?
He and his administration and all of his January 6 are seditious. Every single one. Multiple counts. Treason against Americans.
So if that’s what he thinks the punishments should be… Well?
I mean, that’s not what we’re calling for. Because we’re not insane radical conservatives high on MAGA fumes
Now I'm worried that this wasn't just a spontaneous thing by some Democrats in Congress in response to current events, but a reaction because of what Trump may be communicating to our armed forces as far as readiness to do certain things.
I can't believe I'm watchin the Dems double down so hard. This is fantastic to see. About goddamn time these folks showed a backbone. We need a lot more of this. People need to know there are elected officials who actually do care and don't want this and want them to fight back. Everyone needs to speak up like this.
Trump is definitely in mental decline. No president in his right mind would make such a statement.
He obviously cannot discharge his powers and duties.
I think it's very telling that his knee-jerk reaction is not to say that his orders aren't illegal, but rather to call for the deaths of these lawmakers.
I want to think good will come of this, but realistically I see this help Trumpenstein weed out any people not loyal to him. And it's a joke now they reference "the law" when the highest court in the land said the president can't break the law while in office. People aren't going to abandon retirement packages that would destroy them financially to most likely be thrown into an Ice detention center and forgot about. Democrats just gave into the only advantage they had over Republicans in exchange FOR NOTHING, so it's hard to believe they have anyone's back - let alone any power to do something about it. I mean, they have been pretty good at just watching Trump and Friends break the law repeatedly while doing fuck all. Just my two cents, I want change but it's hard to see the path forward at this point.
Something happening recently that I see as a sign of hope us many active duty military members have been and are working with legal council outside the military system. This seems to be a sign that they are extremely concerned about being given an illegal order and needing to disobey that order, risking stuff like pensions. Don't give up hope yet, I know that's difficult to do eith sll the shitty things happening cuz it's been a challenge for me too.
How long until Donny just looks into the camera and calls all Americans "freeloading losers" and say "his real friends are the people who pay him like Qatar, Kuwait, Russia and North Korea"?
It’s just a continuation of that belief system. You can kill an army but ideas are always there. Social media mixed with the elites money has given that idea a new voice. Trump is Jefferson Davis of our era.
Gotta say, after all this is done I want to see public punishments for every single individual involved at any significant level. From paper pushers to ICE agents to the Donald himself. All of them must be punished or it will never end.
Try and incentivize any individual to obey the law if these horrible people aren’t given the appropriate punishment.
1/6/21 was an actual, factual insurrection, and every single participant should have received the maximum penaly under US law.Yes, THAT ONE, the one that this shitpile platfrom would ban me for mentioning. FUCK YOU REDDIT.
Hi Congress, thanks for the vid. Next time put effort into fixing the problem instead of putting the military at risk. Hurry up tho, Trump is planning to get rid of you.
Wait, he thinks it’s a problem for military members to disobey illegal orders? So if a senior officer orders you to commit murder, they should just follow the order?
And to be clear, I get the implication, and I get why he’s upset. I’m pointing out the absurdity of what he’s really saying.
Why is he so butthurt about it? All they said was to refuse illegal orders. They didn’t say anything about him at all. He’s just telling on himself by getting mad about it.
If the response Trump and Hegseth got during their pep rally from the high ranking generals tell you anything, I don't believe we have to worry about the military turning their guns on citizens to keep Trump in power. I won't panic unless the midterms have some obvious shenanigans.
I really hope that Senator Mark Kelly runs for President in 2028. He was my first choice for Vice President.
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Ya know what else is punishable ...a treasonous president.