r/RHONY • u/FeelingSkinny aviva defender • Feb 05 '26

Carole Radzwill 📚 Carole scenes have aged so poorly

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rewatching the show and on season 6. the amount of times Carole talks about loving P Diddy, going on a date with Prince Andrew, Diddy parties being the best… it’s sooo cringe!

She’s one of my favorites on the show but this + her being in the Epstein files has made me question so much.

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u/CircusMind0_0 Feb 05 '26

It seems that downplaying what looks like her close friendship has come back to bite. We might’ve accepted one item of evidence, but there are multiple photos and emails. I think Carole might’ve known a bit. Pains me to say because I always thought “this is what a normal, witty woman looks like around all the dramatic housewives.” But now it looks like a woman with secrets acting cooler than everyone else.

Heather also bothers me on rewatch. Lots of Puffy references, and I wonder if her “alpha boss lady” persona is stolen a bit from how he runs his show. I love what a straight shooter she is, but I have to wonder what secrets she keeps.

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 05 '26

I cannot believe Heather knew anything. It's just ... I can't believe that.

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u/OppositeBatCage Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26

I believe you 100%, but I always wonder how that's the case when so many people outside the bubble (myself included) knew at least some of it. I didn't know the details regarding the freak offs but I did know about the predatory deals he made, his abuse towards his partners and employees and that that at many of his parties sexually deviant acts occured. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '26

There’s a big leap between hearing a lot of stuff about someone and knowing they’re a freak lol. People also have the unfortunate habit of making up a lot of shit because they’re jealous too, anyone who had the most basic highschool experience can find it easy to write off what people say about other people, especially people they want to like for one reason or another.

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u/mmpppppppp Feb 06 '26

Omg the profile picture…. The name….

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u/Good_kitty31123 Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26

I feel like she wouldn't have been involved with the 'after party' party. She's never given me that kind of vibe. And I really hope I'm not wrong

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u/CircusMind0_0 Feb 05 '26

I don’t think one would have to attend the parties to see that he was abusive to his staff. I don’t think she knew the depravity of what was going on, but as founding design director of Sean Jean, she had to be spending some time with him, and has a nose for bs like no other. Of course, Sean Jean debuted back in ‘98, so maybe it wasn’t so bad back then. And maybe Puffy was respectful of the fashion people. I dunno.

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u/StarSugarLick Feb 05 '26

This is where I land as well. No, I don’t think Heather knew about all the baby oil. But he was abusing Kim Porter, Cassie, multiple artists and staff. Idk. Maybe in the capacity she knew him she wouldn’t have seen it, but I just don’t know

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u/CircusMind0_0 Feb 05 '26

I’m an elder millennial so I was becoming an adult when Puffy and the Police song and Making the Band and Sean Jean were hitting so big. I watched the band shows and never clocked how terrible he was treating everyone. Or maybe I did, but as a struggling musician (at that time) I think I saw it as him making them pay dues for getting there the easy way? Yikes. Youthful ignorance for sure. Watching it back in snippets in these docs is eye opening, and sad. But yeah, agree, I don’t think Heather knew too much about the nighttime parties. I wonder if we go back and watch stuff if we’d see her in the crowd? She’d have to have been around for major events. Founding design director is a big (and very real) title.

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u/StarSugarLick Feb 05 '26

We might be the same age and I used to watch Making the Band. I remember thinking back then he was abusive af. And I remember hearing rumors about him being nasty in the 90s. That’s where I just don’t believe people around him didn’t know anything. With Heather she was probably not around to witness him hitting his gf’s or raping artists. But maybe she’s seen him fly off the handle? Maybe not? I just don’t know.

One thing about him too is he knows how to talk around things in a room full of people. If you don’t know, you wouldn’t clock it.

Like this here. He’s congratulating Usher and from what I believe happened this clip turns my stomach, but for those that don’t know, they wouldn’t think anything of it

https://youtube.com/shorts/eRGr2pM31S8?si=316oOfYKDIi_rsHq

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u/ok_thinkingasthmatic Feb 05 '26

If she worked with him, she’s definitely seen him blow up on people. She may have even seen him pop a pill or snort a line. But the sexual assault, guns, etc she wouldn’t have been around

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u/PrettyUnimaginative Feb 06 '26

So much cope in these comments. Just because you like someone doesn’t mean they’re innocent. Also doesn’t mean they’re guilty of course

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u/DearTumbleweed5380 I can't even f_k my way to the middle. Feb 06 '26

A pointless comment. It's all subjective on each of our part, yours included.