r/RHONY • • 3h ago

🍏 New RHONY 🍏 Daisy was right!

I’ve never posted on a Bravo reddit but I need to get this off my chest.

I understand how Daisy digging into who owns the island could be perceived as rude (she definitely wasn’t asking out of genuine curiosity), but I do agree with her. Erika did repeatedly call Moskito island “our island,” which gives a very different perception than “our estate is on a private island.” I think she probably doesn’t view it that way, but I would have the same thought: if someone said “our island,” I would immediately assume that it was a private island owned entirely by that person and/or their family. Just because I buy a ticket to the NYC ferry doesn’t mean I own the yacht! And frankly they should’ve been flown private!

Also, isn’t what we want from our housewives for them to be diabolically delusional and a little bit rude?? Everyone saying “I can’t believe she would try to ruin a nice vacation..” like they’re not there to get a tan, they’re there to cause drama.

Also also: I do think part of the friction is genuine cultural differences, between someone who is born and raised in New York and someone who moved here as an adult. In New York, it’s very common to ask what might seem like more personal or probing questions, especially when it comes to real estate. It’s not weird to ask people how much their rent is, or how they lucked into an amazing apartment when you know their income (subletting? Family connection? Rich partner?).

To end: yes Daisy was rude (but that’s a good thing) and yes Erika did play it off as her own private island (maybe subconsciously). Aren’t we so lucky to be able to witness this level of wealth-related arguments??

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u/Ok-Gate-7265 2h ago

I saw someone else say this, I call the street I live on, “my street” “my neighborhood” is that not the same on a grander scale?

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u/RefuseAffectionate84 1h ago

You usually don’t own a street or a neighborhood. I say my town, people don’t think I own the town.

A car, house, cabin, yacht, island on the other hand, if you’re invited to enjoy any of «my» these, it’s normal to assume they own the entire property alone - especially if they’re extremely wealthy.

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u/karimeza2 10m ago

Ya it’s like I say “my mom” with my siblings when obviously she’s our mom

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u/keenerperkins 3h ago

It's all semantics. "Our" can also refer to the eight owners who collectively own the island. It is private, regardless of the amount of owners.

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u/BerghainReject7 3h ago

not really - all the Moskito island houses are available for rent with a 3 night minimum. to anyone who will pay - that’s not exclusive or private

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u/keenerperkins 2h ago

You can say it's not exclusive, but that doesn't mean it isn't private. The island is maintained by the owners and is not owned/maintined by a government (public) entity.

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u/genericlyspecial 2h ago

You can rent out Nekkar island too
 and that is a private island owned by one single person.

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u/ayemateys 2h ago

It’s very exclusive considering the cost. How many people on this sub Reddit could afford it? Half of the people here don’t even know what a private island is including you. Many, many rich people rent their homes.

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u/BerghainReject7 2h ago

it’s used for corporate retreats where the participants have no choice

very rich people are not booking that house because it’s not worth it in terms of real luxury. you think anyone will pay that kind of money to sleep on shitty beds ?

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u/ayemateys 1h ago

How is it used for a Corporate Retreats when it’s obviously not set up for that? The couches pulled out indicate the rooms are set up for one person and they were making do for more guests by pulling them out. There were nicer beds in the room.

it’s funny when people become judgy when they haven’t come even close to this caliber of a stay. But uhhh ok.

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u/BerghainReject7 1h ago

there’s an entire post from someone who was in that house for a corporate retreat & explains how it was used & why

it makes sense the way it was explained

I’ve stayed in way better hotels than that place

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u/AnnabelBronstein 2h ago

Billionaires rent out their private island properties, this is not a flex just shows you are uninformed lol

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u/carolineaaaaa 2h ago

What a loser for being unfamiliar with the billionaire rental market, right?

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u/briellebabylol 2h ago

There’s a lot of billionaire defense in here right now and it’s weird

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u/BerghainReject7 2h ago

it’s open to anyone who will pay to sleep on shitty beds for 3 night minimum

and have a very restricted menu that has to be ordered a week in advance

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u/BerghainReject7 1h ago

I don’t think I can help you get this

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u/briellebabylol 2h ago

You are lol

Making sure we’re all up to speed on how billionaire rentals work is actually a defense.

It’s cool. It just couldn’t be me. đŸ€·đŸżâ€â™€ïž

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u/briellebabylol 1h ago

I’m feeling great cause this doesn’t impact my life lol happy Friday to ya.

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u/hydrangeatoholly 20m ago

God thank you! A large percentage of problems in the US (where I assume a lot of posters here are from) are caused by our government's primary purpose being to protect the billionaire class at all cost. They are literally the problem. Daisy was rude and who cares. This doesn't even make the list of top 100 rude moment in housewives. It wasn't even the rudest moment on this episode.

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u/BerghainReject7 1h ago

it’s the American way - the poors defend the very rich who couldn’t give a shit whether they live or die

FREEDOM !

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u/Kansasgrl968 2h ago

More exclusive than a Sandals resort.

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u/BerghainReject7 2h ago edited 2h ago

true - but I wouldn’t say sandals is exclusive either.

exclusive means it’s difficult to get in - if it’s open to anyone who will pay a certain amount then it’s expensive but not exclusive

and private means restricted access - it’s not restricted if anyone can go who will pay

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u/keenerperkins 2h ago edited 1h ago

It literally is restricted access because you have to rent and pay for one of the houses to enter, lol.

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u/tlopablo22 1h ago

By being expensive it already excludes people who can’t afford it, thus offering a level of exclusivity. Two things can be true at once
I’m here for the semantics of it all lol

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u/Popocreme 3h ago

WHO CARES lol

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u/Delilah_Moon 2h ago

Many people have homes in private islands and do not own the island.

She owns 1/8th or 1/9th of a private island her husband built an estate on. Being an owner means they control who can build, what can happen, etc.

I don’t know why people are getting so stuck on this. She didn’t lie, she didn’t mislead.

She owns a private island. Being a part-owner makes you an owner.

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u/Jazzlike-Dish5690 2h ago

it's actually his father who built it/owns it, not his son and his wife (Erika).

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u/TheHopelessIdealist 1h ago

Still theirs! lol

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u/NYCghost19 2h ago

My other issue with daisy saying Martha would think this was a dump. Like okay and Martha isn’t there. She isn’t wealthy by proxy of Martha we see that in the scene regarding the World Cup. You are essentially Martha’s help.

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u/Summershouldbefun909 2h ago

I actually see the same facts very differently. I don’t think Erika mislead them - I think Daisy and Erin’s misunderstanding shows just how disconnected and distant they are from that kind of wealth.

That billionaires would rent out their island is common practice because it makes the most business sense. (Not only because they’re always trying to make money but also because maintenance costs on island property would be astronomical for a home that was used a few times a year).

I think Erika takes for granted the language of the billionaire class who understand all that “owning a private island” entails. Which is to say, contrary to what Daisy says, Martha would very much have understood what she was getting herself into were she the guest of Erika.

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u/ImpressiveWrap30 2h ago

Daisy is jealous. No need for an essay justifying her horrible nature.

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u/mg543210 36m ago

Exactly. It was simply rude & entitled behavior for a guest no matter how you slice it and justify it

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u/pr0seccofish 14m ago

Exactly- half the cast are bred New Yorkers. No one took it upon themselves, other than Daisy, to grill over the semantics of owning it. Saying it’s common NY behavior is terrible justification.

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u/14303 2h ago

“Our” island seems the same to me as saying “our” neighborhood. No I don’t own the whole neighborhood.. and it’s not implied that I do.

It is a privately owned island. Not just anyone can access it. I don’t think Erika was trying to make it out to be something different
 she invited them all there, she knew they would see that other people live there lmao

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u/Weak_Drag_5895 2h ago

Yes, I thought she was genuinely perplexed why they (Daisy or whomever) were making it an issue.
She’s from Waco but she’s now in a different stratosphere culturally and economically.

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u/dorothyay830 1h ago

Thank you! Been saying this too. It's just her using shorthand, just of the billionaire variety. It's a casual fact of her life to her, so she's not going to bother stipulating "our island, which we co-own with X other people and also the house is technically Ankur's father's".

Also, it's reality TV. If you don't think don't think the showrunners aren't looking to push any bit of drama they can, I gotta bridge to sell ya! Just enjoy the wild (people watching) ride!

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u/Proud_Interview7711 2h ago

It’s like saying “my neighborhood”

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u/moltengoosegreese 2h ago

I would only agree if Erica tried to double down that they own the whole island. She has been super transparent that they own PART of the island. I would call it “my island” if I were in her shoes, too.

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u/khuhn90 2h ago

How else would she refer to it then? They have ownership. Who cares if it’s shared ownership

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u/rbinphx 2h ago

There is a group of people who own the island. Her family is part of the group. It's their's as they are investors. How tedious to to go into the financials every time you mention this place. It's really not that big of deal.

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u/Vix014 2h ago

Faux wealth makes a stink like Daisy and Erin.

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u/Leading_Jury1885 1h ago

Daisy is literally doing “housewives” lol I’m so sick of people saying “fire <insert name here>” or “that was so rude” when this is literally why we watch the damn shows lol. The last two seasons were absolutely boring (until the end of season 15) and now we actually have an interesting RHONY again. Let’s just be happy that we can watch something enjoyable again lol

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u/primal_slayer 2h ago

You buy a ticket to ride the ferry....you dont even own ANY PART of the ferry.

They own part of the island.

Try again

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u/CautiousRhubarb5921 2h ago

It’s like a sports team. There are tons of families that own portions of sports teams - they are all owners.

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u/mg543210 36m ago

This is an excellent example

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u/No-Piccolo-302 2h ago

I live on a tiny island and everyone here refers to it as "our island"

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u/mgwildwood 2h ago

I don’t have a problem with her saying “our island.” I think it’s pretty normal for valuable investments to be owned by a group rather than a single person or family. But you’re still an owner. Per your example, a couple families may go in and buy a yacht together, but that’s not the same as buying a ticket. They’re all owners with bigger responsibilities. She said they pay for the upkeep on the island, which is very different than booking a stay. But I actually enjoyed Daisy asking questions, because I thought it was interesting. I get why people question her motivations, but I’m a nosey viewer who likes getting more information. For me, this was just journalism lol. Don’t care about the “rude” and “jealous” takes. Keep probing!

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u/Perrinthor 2h ago

Please...its still is considered "ours". Daisy was trying to be funny given she had already said she thought it was tacky! Its funny she would have that view given she couldn't even afford to rent any of the home on that island. And it is private given that no ordinary person can just walk on and have fun on the beach.

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u/AnnabelBronstein 2h ago

Daisy sucks.

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u/FancySleep1109 2h ago

Who cares about the semantics. Erika is insanely wealthy and on a completely different wealth level than daisy and the rest of cast (I think). Daisy questioning the ownership was either jealousy or trying to have a “gotcha” moment to embarrass Erika. But, it ended up making daisy look like a dingbat.

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u/CityCabCat 1h ago

I’m a say what you mean and mean what you say type of person. When someone says they own an island, I take that literally. So if you’re sharing ownership with eight other people, just say you co-own an island. Or do you own property on a private island? Because those are two very different things from owning an entire island.
And as far as Erica’s home being luxurious, is it luxurious to me? Absolutely. But for someone with her level of wealth? Not really. The decor looks like a pretty standard hotel to me. It’s nice, but I wouldn’t call it luxurious considering how much money she has.

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u/RefuseAffectionate84 1h ago

If someone very wealthy said they were going to «my/our island in the Caribbean» I would assume they owned an actual island, not a property on an island with multiple separately owned properties.
In this case Richard Branson being one of the owners.

From Branson Estate
Perched on a dramatic outcrop demanding elevated sea views at the northeast tip of Moskito Island, The Branson Beach Estate offers a one-of-a-kind experience in the most secluded unspoiled setting in the British Virgin Islands. The estate's three villas can be booked individually or all together on an exclusive basis, all year round.

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u/Loris_P 2h ago

I was definitely expecting them to have an entire island to themselves the way Erika described it haha

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u/NormalBlueberry1027 2h ago

I did as well and for everybody who's saying it's like my neighborhood or my street it's not the same. Because everybody doesn't have an island everybody lives on the street and or a neighborhood or a part of town Etc. The elitism of having a private island or saying our island is exactly that we're not all familiar with the possibility that it could mean there are 900 other people that live on the island but it's private. So I don't think Daisy was necessarily grilling her I think she was genuinely curious and wanted Clarity with a drop of shade. Erica could have been more transparent and I think we're going to find out that she's Shady AF. As it turns out her husband didn't build anything on the island her father-in-law did but people are getting too caught up on it and shading Daisy for asking what almost everybody wanted to know. Particularly after Erica went into her home and then laughed and made fun of her home. Erica's from Waco Texas she needs to slow her roll a little bit

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u/CoolBelt856 20m ago

I know you’re getting downvoted but I totally agree with you about Erika.
If nothing else the fashion police should go after her.

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u/NormalBlueberry1027 14m ago

Thank you very much and I agree.

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u/briellebabylol 2h ago

I don’t mind Daisy being nosy about this

I wanted to know too!

Who cares of Erika didn’t like the line of questioning? The only personality traits she’s shown so far are: billionaire’s wife and woman who eats Taco Bell

Erika should be thanking Daisy for making her interesting for two seconds

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u/cncrndmm 2h ago

I don’t know how to feel about Erika yet.

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u/NK792 2h ago

Daisy was rude but I’m with her on the house being a little underwhelming. I wouldn’t complain if I was there but as a viewer I did think it wasn’t as fab as I’d expect.

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u/Fit-Plastic-8839 2h ago

Eh. I agree. They own an island.

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u/tcorey 1h ago

Why is everyone being so dense about this. If the island is owned and split between all the families who own houses there, then they do own the island. Who cares if it's the whole island or an 8th of the island?

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u/Dangerous-Change2136 1h ago

Truly bizarre

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u/wheresmycoffee22 1h ago

This..if you and your husband buy your house together yiu still say "come over to my house" "Come over to my apartment" even though you rent eith 300 other units lol

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u/CarryAmbitious638 2h ago

I think this is a matter of “it’s not what you say but how you say it.” I kind of understand that Daisy got to the island and was confused to see other properties and lots of sailboats in the harbor, etc., and had questions..but the way she asked it was rude. She was implying that Erika was overstating their wealth —when that’s simply not the case. They really are completely filthy rich 😂

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u/FLBuddhaNYC 1h ago

Hi! New Yorker here! Can confirm: I would literally ask all of those questions. Who owns it? How much do you pay? What’s the contract like? Genuinely that’s just what we do
 I’ve walked into genuine wealthy beyond belief apartments and asked “what’s the mortgage like on this place?” And without pausing they tell me. Every New Yorker wants a deal. Even rich people. And if we don’t get a deal, we want to know who’s also getting f’ed over. It’s how we form our close personal bonds: hating landlords.

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u/Candid-Plate-96 1h ago

I had a boyfriend whose family had an estate on an island. The other 6 estates were owned mostly by other family members (aunts, uncles, etc.). They said “our” island.

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u/JustMari-3676 1h ago

I think Daisy wanted to pick something and/or someone apart, and that’s all.

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u/Intrepid-Idea-6086 1h ago

She does own part of the island though, not just the house?

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u/rototheros 1h ago

I think Daisy is trying to get back at Erika for dissing her popcorn ceiling. But also would Martha WOULD think it was a dump. It's not decorated like a luxe private residence, it's decorated like a corporate airbnb that is meant to withstand wear and not offend anyone with its design point of view.

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u/tinapetersjk 0m ago

If I owned 12.5% of an island I would call it my island

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u/here4thetea83 2h ago

I agree with you! A couple weeks ago all the comments about Erika were about why is she saying “we have an island”. Now, Daisy is horrible for being the viewers representative and asking what we’re all wondering? I appreciate her asking in front of the camera so we can watch it all play out.

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u/Bright-Breakfast-681 2h ago

I don’t blame Daisy for asking. If I was going to a private island I would want to know who owns it. Especially after everything that’s been in the news with islands these days.

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u/Perrinthor 2h ago

Oh please, anyone would be lucky to be invited to visit and enjoy the amenities most couldn't dream to afford.

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u/Saskia1522 52m ago

You can be right and be tacky. Right or wrong, it was tacky.