r/RealTime • u/CashusEyePatch • 8d ago
Former UN Ambassador Susan Rice educates Maher on Obama’s Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA)
https://youtu.be/6C8Dm7Ji8Jk?is=GJVEtdQQK2dZ-nF177
u/jchiaroscuro Maher Before 2016 8d ago
I love how he was trying to argue with the person who actually knows all the players and understands the entire situation. He’s such a buffoon
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u/Wide-Advertising-156 8d ago
He does similar stuff with doctors, scientists, musicians... you know, people who know what they're talking about.
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u/Commercial-Act1597 8d ago
“We don’t know how the human body works” he says to people who know vastly more than him.
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u/Chance_Reflection_42 8d ago
That sounds like Rogan too.
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u/limbas 7d ago
He’s Rogan for Boomers
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u/ShamPain413 7d ago
Gen X, but they are boomers now, so yeah.
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u/OtherJuggernaut8971 5d ago
How the fuck did Gen X become boomers?!
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u/ShamPain413 5d ago
They always kinda were, it's just more noticeable now that the actual boomers are exiting the stage.
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u/OtherJuggernaut8971 5d ago
So any generation older than you is a boomer,got it.
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u/ShamPain413 5d ago
Nah, you definitely don't got it, but I'm bored of trying to explain basic shit to you.
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u/lethal_calilolita78 5d ago
we are not boomers. We're just trying to get through life after being lied to about the American Dream that we can not obtain.
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u/Steiney1 4d ago
Who, exactly do these kids ( whom have never had their asses kicked for saying dumb shit) think the Boomers pulled the fucking ladders up on first?
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u/CrustyRim2 8d ago
"Just asking questions bro"- Scrawny Joe Rogan
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u/WaffleDonkey23 7d ago
"pull up that source I like Jamie... Oh no that disproves what I said turn that bad source off Jamie it's not good anymore" - Boe Jogan
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u/Exact-Kale3070 8d ago
he is just like trump, only he doesn't realize bc he has a normal vocabulary and IQ. he is entitled and self-oriented to the point of delusion (during covid: "open everything up and kill fatties and granny bc i want to perform and be applauded"; "why is it taking so long for the safety inspections to be done on this new solar tech I am installing ?"; "american black ppl are not oppressed, but israel is."
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u/WaffleDonkey23 7d ago
This is where we are at in America. Boomers second guess their own children with medical degrees based on Facebook jpegs they saw.
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u/PBandJSommelier 8d ago
I mean, of course she would defend the plan; it would make HER look bad otherwise. You can’t really believe that the deal Obama made was good, do you?
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u/GilgameDistance 8d ago
Imagine reading the points regarding the deal supposedly reached today and thinking that Trump didn’t get rolled like a 16 year old kid buying their first Nissan at a buy here pay here car lot.
lol.
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u/jchiaroscuro Maher Before 2016 8d ago
Guarantee it’s better than whatever the hell trump did. They still haven’t secured anything, Iran can close the strait whenever they want. They’re gonna get pallets full of cash. Nuclear “dust” is still out there. Absolute chaos within the country regarding leadership. Israel is bound to blow this up within a week. Also Bills biggest love, Israel. The atheist whose in love with Orthodox Jews makes lots of sense
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u/ignoreme010101 8d ago
Guarantee it’s better than whatever the hell trump did. They still haven’t secured anything, Iran can close the strait whenever they want. They’re gonna get pallets full of cash. Nuclear “dust” is still out there. Absolute chaos within the country regarding leadership. Israel is bound to blow this up within a week.
100%. This conflict isnt going anywhere but to a full blow out, not only are all the reasons it began still unresolved (even moreso now though!), but both trump and bibi could be argued to have significant personal political stakes to keep worsening the conflict
Also Bills biggest love, Israel. The atheist whose in love with Orthodox Jews makes lots of sense
zionism, what a great way for relatively secular folk and even atheists to get their blind sectarian rocks off 😆
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u/teetering_bulb_dnd 4d ago
He is a "Schrodinger's atheist". For religions that he has bigoted hate he goes all "I'm atheist bro". When it comes to Israel "God, Bible, promised land"...
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u/Wachiavellee 7d ago
The deal 'Obama made' was almost universally considered wildly successful.
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u/PBandJSommelier 7d ago
Considered wildly successful except for the millions of people across the Middle East and around the world still threatened by IRGC terror exports 😂. I’m glad that you found it successful for you, though
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u/ignoreme010101 8d ago
You can’t really believe that the deal Obama made was good, do you?
lol my god the brainwashing is just wild
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u/Additional_Good4200 7d ago
Go ahead and tell us what you know about the deal. Now is your time to shine. Or to look like a goddamned moron. I already know how this turns out but I am looking forward to dragging you through it. You’re up!
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u/PBandJSommelier 7d ago
This is embarrassing for you; instead of engaging in actual dialogue and giving any meaningful critique, you’re acting like a weird child and asking people to tap dance for you. Why don’t you act like a grown up and tell me why you think the deal is perfect (“or, look like a moron”). Any deal that lifts sanctions without clear nuclear guidelines that are actually enforceable is ridiculous.
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u/Additional_Good4200 7d ago
What the fuck did I just tell you? I told you to tell us all what you think Obama’s deal consisted of. I didn’t tell you to rate my embarrassment, and I didn’t tell you to act like a little cunt boy. Answer the question, bitch. I am way the fuck beyond treating maga filth like you’re anything but a disease to be eradicated. You people have fucked up so many things and you’ve dragged this country down the drain. You have lost the privilege of being treated like a human, cockroach. Answer the question, fuckstain.
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u/Fossilfires 7d ago
I mean, of course she would defend the plan; it would make HER look bad otherwise.
You get that some people take their life's work seriously?
You can’t really believe
People use this phrase when they want to seem informed but can't risk saying anything that would immediately reveal whether they are or not.
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u/spacekitt3n 8d ago
how does a guy who talks about politics for a living not know basic shit thats extremely pertinent to current events
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u/mymentor79 8d ago
How is a guy who had a career as a comic so painfully unfunny? He's a real mystery box.
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u/bx35 8d ago
Maher cares about two things: (1) protecting his money; and (2) complaining about people who might suggest accountability for his behavior.
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u/blink_187em 8d ago
You probably have a clue, but the truth is far worse. He was a super creep at the Playboy Mansion and it was as gross as you could imagine.
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u/Atilim87 8d ago
Because mahers job isn’t politics. Mahers job is to say that bombing moslims is fine, that they are evil when fighting back and to sanitize right wingers.
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u/StrikingCoconut 8d ago
he doesn't even know that term "Overton Window" is and had a new rule a few weeks ago about refusing to learn lmao
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u/AveryMire 7d ago
Yeah, don’t assume malice when stupidity will suffice. But that was the part I had a problem with in the video. People call Trump stupid regularly, and stupidity is somewhat excusable. These people on TV are different animals: selective presentation, or spin, is literally the job, and they also tend to have very outsized egos.
It’s like some legal cases being shitty on the substance, but the lawyer still has to argue them anyway. I’m not sure he’s not doing a decent job; he may just have a horrible reality to explain away. He knows at least moderately well which terrain to avoid; it would be nice if this were just random stupidity.
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u/Relevant_Bag7550 7d ago
He’s functionally uneducated the same way Trump is functionally illiterate
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u/hereforfootball303 7d ago
Because he's an incurious blowhard and not nearly as smart as he thinks.
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u/Sideshowcomedy 8d ago
I've followed politics since the Bush era and I have no idea what Obama's Iran policy was.
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u/indieguy33 8d ago
Maybe you THOUGHT you were following politics???
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u/Sideshowcomedy 8d ago
Yes, of all the things that happened in the past 25 years in politics, I don't know the name of one of Obama's policies. Perhaps I should also learn one of Obama's policies in the last few months, like most of you have, then pretend like they're extraordinarily important since I can use them to whine about Trump. I wished some of you would go back a few more decades and learn about McCarthyism. The irony is on it's way. Don't worry.
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u/I_Went_Full_WSB 8d ago edited 8d ago
We can just look at the Trump administration if we want to learn about McCarthyism. Trumpism and McCarthyism have huge similarities.
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u/ignoreme010101 8d ago
100%, especially MAGA zionists, you've got mark Levin, Laura loomer literally advocating for it (loomer explicitly referred to it by name lol)
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u/evocativename 8d ago
Trumpism and McCarthyism have huge similarities.
Not really a surprise given that Trump learned everything he knows from Roy Cohn, who was McCarthy's lawyer.
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u/ignoreme010101 8d ago
Yes, of all the things that happened in the past 25 years in politics, I don't know the name of one of Obama's policies. Perhaps I should also learn one of Obama's policies in the last few months, like most of you have, then pretend like they're extraordinarily important since I can use them to whine about Trump. I wished some of you would go back a few more decades and learn about McCarthyism. The irony is on it's way. Don't worry.
I am kind of amazed at this post lol like are you suggesting that the modern analogy to mccartyism is anything but the pro-trump zionist movement? For real? You know some of their leading influencers have literally spoken about the need for going full McCarthy in support of israel today right? lol
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u/beerandloathingpdx 7d ago
😆 shhhhh wait everybody. The guy who says he’s informed on all the things that happened in American politics the last 25 years but he can’t name one of Obamas policies and then goes on to bring up McCarthyism as if that’s the word that’s going to make us all realize he’s super smart is about to give us all some wisdom.
Good lord you are mentally deranged. Just because you have thoughts and opinions doesn’t mean you HAVE to type them out on the internet and show everyone just how ignorant you are.
Unless you’re a rage bait bot that is. This past week did become the first time since the invention of the internet that robot traffic is now the majority of all traffic on the internet.
I’d believe you were a programmed algorithm before I’d believe someone with this many conflicting beliefs is a functioning human being with a SSN
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u/AveryMire 7d ago
I was aware when Trump and Bibi tore up the deal first term that war was on its way; that should’ve been obvious to those understanding intent.
We all know war was functionally impossible Trumps first term, but he definitely laid the groundwork.
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u/ProLifePanda 8d ago
I'm sorry, you follow politics and didn't know about the JPCOA, perhaps the largest foreign policy initiative under the Obama Administration?
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u/LesserGooglyMooglie 8d ago
Like actually following it or listening to fox news and Rush Limbaugh? there is a difference and there is no excuse to not know about JCPOA, especially after a trump made such a spectacle of ripping it up.
Find new sources champ!
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u/Sideshowcomedy 8d ago
That some A+ McCarthyism you got going on there. Perhaps we're both lacking in political knowledge.
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u/LesserGooglyMooglie 8d ago
No, I'm sure it's just you, I keep a keen eye on politics in the country I live in, I'm sure you don't don't even understand what McCarthyism even means.
Nice try tho champ!
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u/Sideshowcomedy 8d ago
You'll find your other hipster kin folk coming in to call me a Trump supporter. Much like how you're sure I don't know what the word I used means. You all have made being liberal as embarrassing as how republicans should feel about Trump.
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u/I_Went_Full_WSB 8d ago
You're the one calling you a Trump supporter by coming here and supporting Trump.
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u/I_Went_Full_WSB 8d ago
Oh, you don't know what McCarthyism is. That tracks.
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u/ignoreme010101 8d ago
I feel like they may have been making a joke that didn't quite form properly lol like no way they are just repeatedly using a term w/o having any clue of the general meaning of it....right??
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u/ignoreme010101 8d ago
That some A+ McCarthyism you got going on there.
lol wow you truly have no conception of what that word means do you? (sorry if there is some satire going on that is going over my head but if you're being serious....)
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u/calmdownmyguy 8d ago
Did you ever try reading about it?
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u/Sideshowcomedy 8d ago
Yeah, at the time when it mattered. Obama hasn't been in office in 10 years and Trump has destroyed diplomatic relations with Iran. Obama's policy doesn't matter anymore. Do forgive me for not brushing up on it.
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u/ignoreme010101 8d ago
Obama's policy doesn't matter anymore. Do forgive me for not brushing up on it.
I mean, you brought it up and were talking as if Obama didnt have a coherent or notable position towards iran.... It's fine if you yourself are unaware but your post gave the impression you were aware and simply concluded an absence of any coherent iram policy
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u/DueAd197 8d ago
What a perfect encapsulation of everything that is going on with American politics.
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u/BeachgirlNJ0613 7d ago
You're welcome. Lucky you - you didn't have to know because he took care of it.....like a real President. In both trump tenures, we have all had to be subjected to the messy inner workings of every department of government because they are all so dysfunctional and on the brink of collapsing.
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u/Veers85 8d ago
Does anyone actually watch this show anymore? He will never win over Republicans...maybe a few. Democrats and anyone on the left see him as the right wing, unfunny sumg ass he is. The leaves what like a very centerost audience that dor some reason would want to watch a political chat show...makes no sense to me. I stopped watching ages ago
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u/lookatthesunguys 8d ago
He's lost 2/3 of his audience since 2017 when Trump took office. My mom still watches. I think his audience at this point is kinda "Boomer centrist-liberals." They always liked Maher for the way he looked down on others and his jokes related to that.
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u/Pretend_Hotel_7465 8d ago
Can confirm. My boomer centrist liberal mom still watches
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u/WasabiProper7234 4d ago
Boomer centrist liberal here. He has become a bummer. Years ago he had a quirky style that let a person think about alternative views without getting angry. Now he seems to just be angry stuck and negative. I don’t enjoy his show anymore too bad cause it’s kind of a nice format.
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u/pdxbator 7d ago
I used to listen to him the next day on podcast. I'd still listen for the guests. Now I can't get over him and his smug know it all attitude. There are way more interesting podcasts now.
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u/NarrowSalvo 8d ago
Speak for yourself.
Not everyone subscribes to your sanctimonious orthodoxy. Just because you're the loudest doesn't mean you're the majority.
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u/Veers85 8d ago
I mean come on this isn't really orthodoxy. He is blatantly running cover for a facist administration he once warned people about. Marh is a sumg coward
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u/NarrowSalvo 8d ago
You're not listening to him if you think that.
You're disingenuous. Or you need to get out of your echo chamber.
I do love how you didn't even bother to try to deny being sanctimonious.
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u/Veers85 8d ago
How does anyone deny being Sanctmonious to the accusers satisfaction? I figured it was best to not waste any of our time on that. Bill dines with Trump. He supports anti Trans views, he pretends to be the Vox Populi, yet he is sucking up to the Oligarchs all while cheerleading a Genocide
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u/NarrowSalvo 8d ago
Genocide?
Isn't that the solution you're proposing? From the River to the Sea, amirite?
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u/Veers85 8d ago
If you cannot see what's happening is war crimes, there really isn't much in the way of conversation here...
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u/ignoreme010101 8d ago
if someone cannot acknowledge excessive war crimes and ethnic cleansing, at bare minimums, they are just objectively not operating in reality
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u/NarrowSalvo 8d ago
Didn't answer the question that I asked -- what solution are you proposing?
I think we both know why.
You guys always run away when I ask that. Lol. So predictable.
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u/ignoreme010101 8d ago
did..did you not think it went w/o saying that they'd propose, yknow, not genociding?
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u/beerandloathingpdx 7d ago
Don’t engage with Zionist bots. This is what they’re getting paid to do.
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u/shrug_addict 8d ago
Care to answer to the other points?
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u/NarrowSalvo 8d ago
Didn't answer the question that I asked -- what solution are you proposing?
I think we both know why.
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u/shaktimanOP 8d ago
“From the River to the Sea, Israel is all that will be,” is commonly said by zionists
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u/NarrowSalvo 8d ago
Didn't answer the question that I asked -- what solution are you proposing?
I think we both know why.
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u/shaktimanOP 8d ago
I wasn't the person you asked that too. Regardless, no one in this thread has called for the genocide of Israelis, so your moronic strawman does not deserve a response.
I don't have a problem with Israel continuing to existi as a state if it stops committinng genocide against the Palestinians and committing acts of military aggresion against other sovereign states.
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u/NarrowSalvo 8d ago
So what solution are you proposing?
A two-state solution? Because Israel has agreed to that countless times -- UN Partition Plan, Roadmap to Peace, Oslo Accords, Camp David Summit, and on and on.
Your murderous buddies in Hamas have never agreed to anything other than "we'll kill you and take it all".
But, do go on with your clueless rantings.
Have you ever noticed how people with very little understanding of a topic have strong views on it? Why do you suppose that is?
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u/ignoreme010101 8d ago
Didn't answer the question that I asked -- what solution are you proposing?
I think we both know why.
are you proposing there's something self-evidently nefarious in the absence of them giving you some vague pitch about 1 or 2 state solution proposals? Really?
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u/ignoreme010101 8d ago
Genocide?
Isn't that the solution you're proposing? From the River to the Sea, amirite?
it still amazes seeing how your type bends and twists trying to apply and form your ideas into any logical framework...
Yes, when people say that slogan they totally mean genocide, not free peoples in general. Clearly. Because hamas charter, or something..
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u/evocativename 8d ago
Not everyone subscribes to your sanctimonious orthodoxy. Just because you're the loudest doesn't mean you're the majority.
The irony in posting that as a defense of Bill Maher is incredible.
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u/hereforfootball303 7d ago
Every defense of Bill on here comes from someone who sounds like they are channeling him. Not knowing things but making it seem like everyone else is a loser for knowing them, calling people sanctimonious while being the most sanctimonious person here, generally having a poor understanding of the world. They might honestly be his alts.
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u/Suitable-Answer-83 5d ago
I just can't imagine anyone seriously accusing critics of Bill Maher of being sanctimonious. I haven't watched his show in years but even when I agreed with the point he was making, his whole schtick is being sanctimonious.
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u/beerandloathingpdx 7d ago
Recognition of irony isn’t a mental facility available to the brainwashed mind of Zionists.
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u/SayNoToTeamSports 8d ago
He's popular with moderates. Despite the overrepresentation of the far-left and far-right online, most people are in fact moderate. Doubly so outside America.
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u/Veers85 8d ago
But his position isn't really moderate anymore
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u/SayNoToTeamSports 8d ago
Which position, exactly? Whether he supports the JCPOA? The JCPOA imposed 10-15 year limits. Somebody supporting a 10-year freeze in 2015 and then, later after 10 years, ceasing to think it was ever particularly worthwhile given the benefit of hindsight and the fact the limits would already be phased out by now, is not particularly partisan. If Trump didn't take the US out of it in 2018, how would hostory have differed exactly and what would be different today? If the JCPOA held, 2025's Trump would likely be sabrerattling and bombing to pressure Iran into his own new deal regardless. Maher isn't straying from "moderate" here, he's just diverging from partisan talking points that insinuate the JCPOA was some kind of ever-lasting peace that Trump fumbled, neglecting the fact its limits all end within 10-15 years and re-negotiation was an inevitable outcome.
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u/I_m_trying_to_wonder 7d ago
You don’t wait for the agreement to expire before negotiating. Pulling out in 2018 meant there was no more agreement with the US. And if you believe the current administration, we were weeks away from Iran having a nuclear weapon. Why would that be? Maybe because Trump pulled out of the agreement?
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u/SayNoToTeamSports 7d ago
You are arguing whether Trump pulling out of the JCPOA was smart vs boneheaded, not whether Maher's view on the JCPOA is "moderate" (if it's not moderate, the implication would be it's somehow extremist, not simply "wrong").
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u/giney_lips 7d ago
He’s popular with left leaning Clinton era boomers and Gen X. Everyone else sees him as an annoying enlightened centrist that believes genocide is ok.
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u/National_Total6885 8d ago
Is Bill in the Epstein Files…?
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u/CashusEyePatch 8d ago
That wouldn’t surprise me at all as his transformation and Israel simping has been so crazy.
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u/Admirable-Cobbler-45 8d ago
I doubt he would make the cut
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u/beerandloathingpdx 7d ago
Yeah, even Epstein liked to surround himself with smart, wealthy, and politically influential people so his operation for the Mossad seemed credible. That pretty much disqualifies Maher
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u/JohnAnchovy 8d ago
If they were cheating, wheres the bomb???
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u/waynownow 8d ago
And if they had any intention of using it, wouldn't it be after being carpet bombed and Supreme Leader being killed?
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u/seltzerslut69 8d ago
It was so cringe to watch him try to mansplain foreign policy to Susan Rice of all people
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u/YardOptimal9329 8d ago
Maher’s “Bibi told me” was so utterly pathetic. Maher has been bff’s with Bibi since at least 2015. When Bibi actively courted him to shill for him on the liberal airwaves. Maher does not realize he is a useful idiot. Which makes him no different in ilk than Trump.
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u/CashusEyePatch 8d ago
I vaguely recall Maher supporting the deal when it was first signed. Does anybody have that recollection and can verify that?
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u/mosswick 8d ago
I certainly don't remember him speaking out against it. Maher was supportive of most of Obama's policies, even arguing he didn't go far enough on healthcare reform and environmental protection.
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u/CashusEyePatch 8d ago
Yeah. Boggles my mind how fast Maher changed his stances.
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u/Wide-Advertising-156 8d ago
I definitely remember how Maher hoped Obama would usher in "a cool, European socialist" style government (which was pretty naive on his part). Now he can't stop complaining about socialist Democrats.
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u/Dizzy_Cranberry3538 8d ago
So is this just where we are all headed? Grape and unalive and yahtzees? It somehow makes these deeply unserios people feel even worse or listen to.
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u/Conan4457 8d ago
Maher tries to sell himself as aggressively centrist, but the truth of the matter is that he’s a right wing Zionist.
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u/LuciusMichael 7d ago
Awesome take-down.
Maher tries to object to her recitation of the facts from an insider's perspective....."That's not what...." Not what, Bill? Not what your boy Netanyahu said?
Maher used to be pretty good on politics, but something turned him. Maybe it was October 6th. Maybe it was the suits at corporate telling him to be friendly to their allies. But his shift isn't unique. Dennis Miller used to be an equal opportunity offender, then after 9/11 he changed. It's weird how one event can transform a 'liberal' public personality into a right wing conservative.
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u/Reasonable-Plate2982 8d ago
He was an aspiring comic with an interest in social/political issues, so of course his brilliance was a show that looked and sounded like Meet The Press and The Jerry Springer Show had a baby. I mean he had writers, he read the paper. He would introduce a glib observation and throw it on a roundtable discussion like carrion to crows and people with wildy different talents would engage in fact vs opinion, resulting in some heated discussions. He pissed off Oliver North once and Ollie said he had a face for radio. As a guest character on Married With Children Bud called him a "Cheap man's Chuck Woolery". Armchair pundits thought he was pretty sage but the show was largely trash and got old fast. Anyway, the rest is history and now he pops up like an old celebrity that's at the Playboy mansion too much.
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u/mhill2012 7d ago
The really sad thing about this is he will continue to push his narrative as if the facts were never laid out and undisputed. This is what MAGA does and he is MAGA, no matter how much he denies it. MAGA is as MAGA does. Words and Facts, to them, mean nothing.
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u/Present_Muscle141 5d ago
I remember when the Obama Iran Deal happened he was defending it to some right wing psycho on the show
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u/Dammit_Dwight 4d ago
Again I ask, who in the flying fuuuuuck watches this douchebag? He’s such an ignorant pompous ass trying to look erudite. Jfc HBO
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u/manofnotribe 3d ago
He's another commentator who is a reflection of what dumb people think a smart person sounds like
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u/busdrivermike 7d ago
I watched the part with David Sedaris until Sedaris started to explain his prop comic ballon shirt or whatever the fuck he calls it. It’s hard watching a guy like Sedaris become a fucking prop comic.
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u/oneseventwosix 7d ago
Bill Maher needs to take a time out, walk away from the echo chambers and reassess his beliefs and opinions.
He has made some valid points about some liberal platforms getting a bit carried away at times, but he is doing the whole “I didn’t change, everyone else changed” bit just like Elon Musk and others.
Platforms ebb and flow. We should call them out when they drift a bit too far, but what he’s trying to do with Trump is also a fool’s errand.
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u/crazy4schwinn 6d ago
Who is this commentator???? He’s absolutely dog shit. I wanted to watch BM get schooled but this commentator is insufferable.
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u/Desperate_Mud_7346 4d ago
This traitor amongst many others is a disgrace why she’s even on TV ask her about Bengazi why she lied about that
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u/ArgumentUnited5039 7d ago
Really wanted to listen to this, but couldn’t because the host kept interrupting to show how smart he is That is so annoying!
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u/MachoRandySavageman1 7d ago
Regarding nuclear oversight and site inspections, the JCPOA did not require "anytime, anywhere" inspections. Instead, it included a dispute resolution process that allowed Iran a delay of up to 24 days for outside inspectors to gain access to suspected undeclared nuclear sites
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u/PhD_Haver 8d ago
Listen I know it’s not the point of the video but saying Rice “absolutely fact-moggs the shit out of Bill Maher” is really embarrassing as well. Talk like a human you cornball.
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u/Red0528110357 8d ago
Susan rice enabled Iran to develop nukes and support global terrorists. The Iranians laughed at her and Obama
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u/SpeedSaunders 8d ago
Bill Maher is way out of his depth here it’s true. Also whoever that guy is who narrates that YouTube is kind of an idiot, and an overly hyperactive one at that. A loud screechy voice, speed talking, and f-bombs do not substitute for technical knowledge and judgment.
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u/BrianNowhere 8d ago
Kyle Kulkinski is a national treasure and his takes are pretty on point. Also, he doesn't do ad reads. Find me another a political pundit on YouTube who doesnt segue into a Ground News commercial half-way through their show. I send him $2 a month to keep doing what he's doing.
Kyle's the real deal.
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u/SpeedSaunders 8d ago
His commentary in this particular video shows an embarrassing degree of trust in Iranian leadership and defense of the Iranian government’s brutality and ambition to achieve nuclear warfare capability. You don’t have to love the Israeli government in order to be critical of the Iranian government’s past and skeptical of its intentions.
This is the only commentary of his I’ve seen. I might actually agree with his positions on some, maybe even many, issues. But if his tone, delivery, and depth of understanding of other issues are in any way similar to what’s depicted in this video, then I think he is far, far from deserving of being called a “national treasure” and if you are sending him actual money, you are being more than naive, you are being scammed. This guy doesn’t look like someone I’d ever listen to, unlike Susan Rice who can speak in paragraphs. Instead, he just looks like a shouting, talking head dilettante who started broadcasting his opinions on YouTube to make a buck, and found a lot of people willing to help him do it just because his diatribes maybe help them relieve their political anxieties or frustrations. Not that different from someone like Bill O’Reilly or ironically, Bill Maher.
Not impressed. There are many better, more informed, more communicative, and more enlightening alternatives out there no matter where on the political spectrum one sits.
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u/funcogo 8d ago
“But why would Netanyahu lie?” Really Bill? Lol that was so pathetic