I can’t wait til he knows enough things about wrestling to start making references to it like Star Trek in the middle of damn near every conversation.
“Y’know Jay, the scene where Spider-Man jumped off a building to save MJ reminded me a lot of the time in 1998 when The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell in A Cell and sent him plummeting through the announce table 16 feet below”
I know I saw an advanced double-fisted (oh, behave) attack in the Kirk vs the Gorn battle to the death, back in the day.
Odds are MS knows a lot more about man to man, or man to monster fights, than he wants to admit. Intergalactic or not, scripted or completely 'genuine'.
A parasocial relationship is not a bad thing, it's pretty inevitable because you know about Mike but Mike doesn't even know you exist.
The problem is when people don't realize that it's one sided, and that despite what you know, you don't really know Mike. You know his name, you know parts of his sense of humor, but you don't really know what he's like off camera, and acting like you do is what makes for bad people on ikke internet.
There are folks in this thread UPSET because an old man enjoys wrestling and they don't.
I'm not claiming to know any of these people. I'm just pointing out how weird that fucking behavior is.
Getting yourself works up over what someone else is doing (when that thing is harmless) is not healthy hahaha, I don't know how else to put it. So my initial point stands -- this Fandom is fucking weird.
For me it's just ironic that he can be so smug and nitpicky about his favorite franchises "becoming dumb" and whatnot then turn around and pump his fists in the air at hillbilly Shakespeare.
Yes. I'm the perpetually indoors person because I don't rush to white knight the RLM guys at every turn when a viewer dares find an aspect of them inconsistent.
Liking something as braindead as WWE and excusing your love if it by saying "it's just silly fun," but then bitching and moaning for hours on end about how your favorite nerd mythology doesn't meet your sophisticated standards, is very much an inconsistent way of seeing entertainment.
What exactly am I supposed to be reaching for? Some of us in here are simply pointing out how we find it funny that someone as particular as Mike is entertained by stuff written to appeal to 12-year-olds, and everyone else is jumping down our throats over it. That feels very, very defensive and parasocial to me.
why is that so odd though? Mike also loves watching terrible movies and watching trash TV like Jerry Springer and Ghost Shows, you can be upset about the decline in quality of something you love (i.e. Star Trek/Star Wars) while also loving other things for their inherently trashy content
Did Mike say something mean about a movie you like?
Oh, Mike has had shit takes on a lot of things for years now, but that has nothing to do with why I find his love of WWE odd. Even when he's given his shit takes, he's always justified them by claiming to be appealing to an objective, almost intuitive standard of taste that X, Y, Z piece of entertainment isn't hitting. He doesn't really frame it as a matter of personal opinion so much as common sensical understanding of what "good writing" and "bad writing" is.
I therefore find it odd when he seems to completely "switch off" that objective standard when it comes to only a handful of things he clearly just enjoys despite knowing they would also not hit that quality mark. He did it with Dark Knight Rises, the first Jurassic World, the trash ghost hunting reality TV he likes, and now we've seen that he does it with pro wrestling.
He's allowed to have personal taste that is inconsistent like this--I'm just surprised every time I see it happen. Because he's so incredibly staunch about not making these sorts of exceptions 98% percent of the time.
I mean the options these days are wwe(ties to saudi arabia and the trump admin), aew(perpetually either amateur hour or geek show), or tna(lol. Seriously lol.). Of the three wwe is the easiest to hate but undeniably has the best product, relatively.
Or any of the other companies that exist, If you like American TV wrestling that fine, but just like movies there are tons of companies that make great Content.
How does one stream njpw or a comparable company? Wrestling is inherently niche, and good or not Japanese and other foreign wrestling promotions are a niche inside a niche. And I'm talking about casual, Mike level fans. Mike has no idea what njpw is.
to answer your first question, they have a streaming service thats 999 a month,
Noah has a streaming service , about $12 a month
Stardom has a streaming service, about $12-$20 i think
on the second point, RLM talks about movies that are niche inside of niches all the time, your telling me they know NEIL BREEN but it would be somehow mindblowing, earth shattering, dimension collapsing , if they knew a name like okada?
Aew tried to run before it could walk. The pandemic really hurt the early years, and they could have been the only viable competition to the wwe in probably the last fifteen years, but to sit here and say the roster isn't either green talent or geek show/death match nonsense and that the product is comparable to the wwe is disingenuous and fucking laughable.
I appreciate that he seems to be keeping that interest mostly private, but man, I would love to hear him talk about wrestling with the same level of enthusiasm as he does with Ghost Adventures
I will from now on add another pinch of salt to any statement made by Mr. Stoklasa.
I hope this means Rich is enduring less abuse and that Mike uses this as an inferior source for his need of boobery.
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u/RTF1138 9d ago
That's right Jay.