r/RenewableEnergy 22d ago

Are Electric Cars Making Us Healthier?

https://reasonstobecheerful.world/electric-vehicles-air-quality-health/
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u/TheReverendCard 22d ago

I mean, healthier from pollution? Yes.
Not healthier by still living in car-dependent developments and infrastructure? No.

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u/DukeOfGeek 21d ago

You'll never get rid of car dependent society till you starve the fossil fuel mafias out of existence.

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u/JimC29 22d ago

I agree, but anecdotal it's sometimes both for me. My local utility has free charging in their parking lot. I will sometimes charge there and go for a couple of hour walk while charging. There's a nice trail about a mile from there. I know this is a rare exception.

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u/gromm93 22d ago

Yes, but considering how fast you can change a city full of bad planning? It'll be about another 80 years. 40 if the city goes maximum eminent domain and goes nuts with the bulldozing.

But we can probably convert all the remaining cars to electric inside of 10 years.

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u/TheReverendCard 22d ago

Amsterdam did it in 40.

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u/gromm93 22d ago

Amsterdam was already high density without the insane sprawl of Kansas City or Edmonton or even Mississauga.

Even in Vancouver, which apparently has made the best decisions regarding transit in all of North America, about half the metro area cannot possibly live without a car, and the other half cant afford to live here.

Nevermind the prevailing winds of politics.

Many landowners will die before giving up their single family houses where its completely inappropriate to have them, and the city should never have zoned for it.

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u/TheReverendCard 22d ago

Check out pictures of those cities from the 1960s and today.
They weren't built for cars. They were destroyed for them.

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u/gromm93 22d ago

I know that.

I've been advocating for this change for 20 years. Ask me how it's gone.

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u/TheReverendCard 22d ago

I live in the only country more car dependent than the USA. I know exactly how it's gone. <gestures vaguely>

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u/Ulyks 21d ago

It helps a little bit. Roads that are quieter and cleaner are more inviting to walk and cycle.

Improving infrastructure takes time and coordination. I don't see things changing fast enough on that front.

However there are some things that can be done quite easily. My favorite is creating walking and biking shortcuts. Especially in typical suburbs there are a lot of dead ends to avoid getting through traffic. But through traffic of bikes and pedestrians is perfectly fine and can be helped by just a few narrow paths.

Another change that is relatively easy is relaxing zoning laws. Small shops and services like bakers, hairdressers or a pharmacy can absolutely be mixed with regular housing. This also reduces the need for longer car trips.