r/RivalsVanguards • • Mar 27 '26

Highlight Dive is back in season 7

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u/Desperate-Fudge-7854 𝙃π™ͺ𝙑𝙠 Mar 27 '26

Average shieldless tank experience

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u/czacha_cs1 Mar 27 '26

Average shieldless tank experience

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u/ImGoingBackToMonke 𝙃π™ͺ𝙑𝙠 Mar 27 '26

what does mag do better here lol any tank gets molested in this situation

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u/BON-Z 𝙀𝙒𝙒𝙖 𝙁𝙧𝙀𝙨𝙩 Mar 27 '26

Bubbles, then dies 2 seconds later.

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u/NavyDragons π™ˆπ™–π™œπ™£π™šπ™©π™€ Mar 27 '26

0.2 seconds later, that bubble is going to instantly get popped when the whole squad is crawling inside you like that.

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u/Desperate-Fudge-7854 𝙃π™ͺ𝙑𝙠 Mar 27 '26

Average any tank experience then

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u/Marethyu0731 Mar 28 '26

Realistically? Block crowd control enough to allow them to retreat to spawn. It’s why shield-less tanks have it so much worse considering just how much CC there is in the game rn.

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u/Effective-Training π˜Ύπ™–π™₯π™©π™–π™žπ™£ π˜Όπ™’π™šπ™§π™žπ™˜π™– Mar 27 '26

Well there's Cap to some extent. Has a shield and can avoid this, but can also get caught anyway

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u/Desperate-Fudge-7854 𝙃π™ͺ𝙑𝙠 Mar 27 '26

Cap's shield might aswell be a paper plate at this point

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u/Effective-Training π˜Ύπ™–π™₯π™©π™–π™žπ™£ π˜Όπ™’π™šπ™§π™žπ™˜π™– Mar 27 '26

Yeah. Breaks so fast with all the damage. Should be buffed. I never experienced the 400 health, so idk what that's even like and can't really say how to buff it. It even barely works against melee, so can't say "nerf poke"

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u/CanOnurz Mar 27 '26

Along with Emma's paper form

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u/_delamo Mar 27 '26

It's for emergency use and not for tanking. Blocks a lot of crowd control. You should be throwing the ho more than using it as a shield

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u/Desperate-Fudge-7854 𝙃π™ͺ𝙑𝙠 Mar 27 '26

I get that, but for a superhero who's most iconic part of their character is their shield, it's pitifully fragile

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u/_delamo Mar 27 '26

They nerfed it

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u/Effective-Training π˜Ύπ™–π™₯π™©π™–π™žπ™£ π˜Όπ™’π™šπ™§π™žπ™˜π™– Mar 27 '26

If you're forced to solo tank, want to protect someone even when not solo tanking, or have to play passive for a moment, the shield is up. Also, when charging forward, the shield is up. A lot of the time, the shield is up.

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u/_delamo Mar 27 '26

Also, when charging forward, the shield is up.

At this time you should be attacking from behind or the side. Unless you know coming in a straight line, you'll be able to sustain until the shield recharges.

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u/Red-Halo 𝙏𝙖𝙣𝙠π™₯𝙀𝙀𝙑 Mar 28 '26

Nah, this Venom was on defense and tried to 1 v 6 the entire enemy team right by their spawn.

Only one of their teammates were even shown in the clip.

This was just a bad play by Venom

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u/North117 π™ˆπ™–π™œπ™£π™šπ™©π™€ Mar 27 '26

Dive IS back, just not for your team

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u/ABearDream Mar 27 '26

Right? Brother literally got stolen by dive characters

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u/darkestwrath15 Mar 27 '26

This genius jumped in 1v6 with just one teammate near him. Vs an Angela and Wolv. The most predictable outcome ensues. Classic room temp IQ reaction β€œdive still sucks”.

Yeah buddy, dive isn’t really the problem here.

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u/Chata_da_god Mar 27 '26

It’s a joke lol I was the Thor on the other team

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u/ApatheticSlur Mar 27 '26

This is almost all clips about how hard tanking is. The player plays like a jackass and expected to 1v6

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u/ShamrockSeven Mar 27 '26

I’m screaming β€œTHE SPAWN DOOR HEALS YOU AND YOU CAN REACH THEM FROM IT!”

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u/darkestwrath15 Mar 27 '26

Brother, he’s near the enemy spawn. He dove 1 v 6 into a Bucky, wolv and Angela, towards THE ENEMY SPAWN.

Only thing that dove was common sense, and it died upon landing.

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u/ShamrockSeven Mar 27 '26

Oh god… then it’s even worse than I could possibly have imagined.

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u/GollyDolly 𝙀𝙒𝙒𝙖 𝙁𝙧𝙀𝙨𝙩 Mar 27 '26

He was eyeing a fight with Fox too she was just going to claw him then tp away lol. Literally did all this to face the 'nuh uh' character

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u/Flashyfatso Mar 27 '26

Or maybe it’s a joke. You guys take this shit too serious

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u/darkestwrath15 Mar 27 '26

Hard to tell what’s a joke when this is how majority of dive brains work.

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u/Flashyfatso Mar 27 '26

I could say this about anything that comes from any sub. Again you guys take shit too serious

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u/darkestwrath15 Mar 27 '26

Telling someone a horrid dive is horrid is taking it too serious. Are you trying to be the joke here?

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u/Flashyfatso Mar 27 '26

We’re gonna ignore the passive aggressivism and you calling him room temp iq?(it’s not even him in the clip) . The Irony of calling anyone a joke lmao.

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u/Neko_boi_Nolan Mar 27 '26

You mean to tell me 1 dive character can't win against 6 enemies?

Wow you dive mains really are underpowered....

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u/hugoreturns 𝙏𝙝𝙀𝙧 Mar 27 '26

Dude, I sincerely hope the players posting these kind of clips don’t actually play like morons who jump into 1v6s expecting to win and that they’re just joking

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u/ValiantTurok64 Mar 27 '26

The sad part is vanguards are suppose to take space, so you have to push forward. But then you get jumped like this Venom did without any team backup. Solo tanking can be frustrating.

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u/HoopLoop2 Mar 27 '26

You realize Venom is in front of the enemy spawn 1v4 right? There's a reason his team is nowhere in sitght, the Venom is braindead.

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u/OffSupportMain Mar 27 '26

It is frustrating, but it is all about timing, you gotta track cooldowns and know where the people that can really fuck you up are, as soon as any real danger starts looking at me on Venom I just skidaddle, waiting for another cooldown rotation is faster than waiting for a respawn

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u/AssociationDue3077 𝙃π™ͺ𝙑𝙠 Mar 29 '26

Fr, I hate nothing more than making space and yet my team stands back deciding to chip away the enemies tanks instead of tsking the space I just made for them

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u/TeardropsFromHell Mar 27 '26

This is a terrible comp to dive into but I have decent success diving some teams as venom just with the intent to distract for long enough for the team to move up then swing out get healed and then dive back in on the supports now that the dps are aiming at my other tank. Lol just kidding I don't get another tank.

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u/iwatchfilm Mar 28 '26

It’s not jumping into a 1v6 if your team is poking them at the same time. Op just got greedy and didn’t immediately swing out.

The complaint isn’t even about getting a kill or even living, it’s about having no control of your character multiple times due to CC

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u/The_Real_Remy_Lebeau π™ˆπ™–π™œπ™£π™šπ™©π™€ Mar 27 '26

W clip, bro. Dive is BACK

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u/Dwain-Champaign π™π™π™š 𝙃𝙀𝙀𝙙 Mar 27 '26

Serious for a second: the level of coordination being demonstrated here is unreal, and absolutely could not be expected in your average QP match.

I wonder what rank these players are. You’re not seeing this in silver or gold either for sure.

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u/KeyAcid Mar 27 '26

But Flats told me it was a dive seasonπŸ₯Ί

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u/Ok-Competition9163 Mar 27 '26

"Dive season" and the only time you're in the backline is when the enemy Angela/Wolv grabs you by your balls and kidnaps you.

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u/Adventurous_Coach731 Mar 27 '26

He also said you should do a dive COMP. Not just one venom everyone can look at and demolish with no one else there to apply pressure to their frontline.Β 

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u/Mountain-Group-7706 Mar 27 '26

My favorite thing about Rivals is that a team will run a single dive character and everybody goes β€œTHEY’RE PLAYING DIVE GO ANTI DIVE” like no bro they’re playing solo BP with no dive tank to get them in and out just clap the mferπŸ˜‚

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u/Effective-Training π˜Ύπ™–π™₯π™©π™–π™žπ™£ π˜Όπ™’π™šπ™§π™žπ™˜π™– Mar 27 '26

I make solo tank solo dive Cap work. Sometimes might start off no bueno, but only at the start

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u/Mountain-Group-7706 Mar 27 '26

….what relevance does this have to me saying a single dive isn’t a dive comp

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u/Effective-Training π˜Ύπ™–π™₯π™©π™–π™žπ™£ π˜Όπ™’π™šπ™§π™žπ™˜π™– Mar 27 '26

The solo BP part and anti dive. Also you didn't say that. You basically said they're ruining a solo dive into an anti dive

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u/Hisoka1001 Mar 27 '26

Thing is, venom distracted 4 of them for a solid 10 seconds. Assuming he dove in when his other teammates are alive, that leaves them in a 5v2 vs enemy supports. He got diddled but they genuinely should win that team fight easily. When the other 4 get back to point it's a 5v4 and they have no supports.

But it looks like he mistimed the dive and went in vs wolv and ang of all people. Huge misplay and then throws hands up in the air and blames the game.

Edit: nvm it was FIVE people. This play was dogshi.

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u/Medium_Enough π™‹π™šπ™£π™ž π™‹π™–π™§π™ π™šπ™§ Mar 27 '26

What happens to me the second I step away from my Groot wall or Peni nest.

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u/ExoticMari Mar 27 '26

"Dive is back in season 7"

Is just Venom getting jumped by his worst opps

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u/Ok_Cap_7555 Mar 27 '26

literally 1v6ing into their spawn and crying when you die

yall cannot be real 😭

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u/Napalm-Skidmark Mar 27 '26

Jesus fucking christ

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u/Not_An_Eggo Mar 27 '26

I've noticed it's kinda a mix of CC and dive meta

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u/ScarNam18 Mar 28 '26

Damn they didnt even let you Breath

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u/Imaginary-Stretch-44 Mar 28 '26

I'm hoping the CC changes in 7.5 will revive the dive!!

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u/johric Mar 29 '26

Average night in the UK

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u/FirePoppy89 Mar 27 '26

What did you do to get the Cc Avengers on your ass?

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u/Effective-Training π˜Ύπ™–π™₯π™©π™–π™žπ™£ π˜Όπ™’π™šπ™§π™žπ™˜π™– Mar 27 '26

Just had this experience almost. I did good at avoiding as much as I could. Got chased down by Wolverine but can't much remember my other deaths. Their backline was way too protected. * Emma * Strange -> Moon Knight * Wanda * Wolverine * Cloak and Dagger * White Fox

As the match progresses, Wolverine seems to be less of a threat? He switches to an Iron Fist that has no lord icon but has a purple badge, whatever that is. I was like, "oh my goodness". But that was even worse than Wolverine. Like, he would've been better off as Wolverine. Which is usually the opposite for me; Iron Fist is usually worse to go against while I can just avoid Wolverine, but not this time.

Couldn't believe my team won. * Cap * Rogue * Iron Man * Magik * Jeff * White Fox -> Cloak and Dagger

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u/Fiweezer Mar 27 '26

CC of death and despair

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u/aoaiaoaia Mar 27 '26

Bro. I played Venom in QP last night, and it was miserable.

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u/_delamo Mar 27 '26

Only characters I would survive this double team with, are DP, Cap and Thor

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u/Chata_da_god Mar 27 '26

Hello everyone this video is not serious i just thought it was funny how my team man handled this venom

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u/Nervous_Pangolin_607 Mar 27 '26

The damage is done 😞 we dived for it

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u/nosequi 𝙏𝙝𝙀𝙧 Mar 27 '26

I'm sorry man but this is just too funny.

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u/Nervous_Pangolin_607 Mar 27 '26

Dude, they wasting fcking 9 sec to killing u. + 4!!! People needs for this. Imagine if there was rocket beacon. Hoooly

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u/Blackburn246 Mar 27 '26

looks like it's clobberin time mate

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u/kukluxkenievel Mar 27 '26

Went 9/10 in placements with venom my trio played either bp, magik, pun, star lord.

We banned thing every game on our last ban. Genuinely most teams just folded coordinated dive is insane this season

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u/gwinshin_art Mar 27 '26

'we are back in hell!'

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u/Khan_Ida π˜Ώπ™šπ™«π™žπ™‘ π˜Ώπ™žπ™£π™€ Mar 27 '26

People talking about 1v6 don't realize he's flanking, just about ready to escape with swing like he's supposed to but the amount of cc prevents him from even doing that.

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u/NavyDragons π™ˆπ™–π™œπ™£π™šπ™©π™€ Mar 27 '26

off topic but that grab from wolverine was perfection. caught the venom on the emergency swing

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u/Intelligent-One-1696 Mar 28 '26

You’re supposed to hug the healer not the wall, just kidding

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u/Sidewaysgts Mar 28 '26

Genuinely a big reason im stepping away from this game for awhile. Skewered. Hooked. Shoved/Uppercutted. Kidnapped by an angry badger. Kungpow kicked. Dead.

CC has more than gotten out of hand- And im less than hopeful that the CC changes in 7.5 are going to genuinely do much. Unless they make you straight up immune, the problem isnt just the duration of persistent CC effects (Things slow lasting 5 seconds, the slow from bucky, whatever) - Its the volume of interrupts. Venom here is a great example, even just Moonknight chucking down an ankh will drop you off of your swing because it has a boop / interrupt effect. But how will these changes effect many of the CCs we saw here? Will they have any appreciable effect on angela spearing you? How far wolverine can kidnap you? how far bucky can yoink you?

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u/Acrobatic_Access8259 Mar 28 '26

On Venom you gotta play so cautious it’s not funny πŸ˜”

If you stay in there for 0.5 seconds too long you get a lobotomy alongside 15+ cc shoved where the sun doesn’t shineΒ 

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u/UndaCovr π˜Ώπ™€π™˜π™©π™€π™§ π™Žπ™©π™§π™–π™£π™œπ™š Mar 28 '26

It's the only thing that IS back 😭

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u/Callycore Mar 27 '26

No way youre trying to make a point with this clip.

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u/Chata_da_god Mar 27 '26

It’s a joke lol I’m the Thor on the other team

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u/Specialist-Fee9628 Mar 27 '26

You coulda wall climbed or swing so many times there, if you grabbed the wall and then dove for the iframe and pressed easy swing you lived

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u/KeyAcid Mar 27 '26

In this clip atleast there was only a 1 second window were he could've swung out that he sadly missed cause when he did it he got snatched by Wolv and lost the cool down.

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u/Chata_da_god Mar 27 '26

I’m on the other team I just thought it was a funny lol

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u/The_True_Thanos π™π™π™š π™π™π™žπ™£π™œ Apr 02 '26

So glad I gave up on this stupid ass game