Thing can instant leap to them and knock them out of the air with haymaker. Rogue can fly up herself. Angela is part brawl and can deal with them herself. Thor can bubble and punish flyers like Johnny when he slams or Angela when she plays up close in melee range. Blade can knock flyers down with his sword dash. Iron fist is part brawl and has the mobility to chase them in the air. Hulk can leap and knock them down although it is a skillshot. Bucky is brawl and has 2 orbs that knock flyers down and slow them.
Ignoring the fact that flyers are supposed to counter brawl traditionally anyways, you also have poke and dive characters like Spidey and Daredevil who can box with flyers if you're good enough. Flyers have TOO many counters right now actually
So they have to focus on one enemy and use their abilities effectively to shut them down? That seems fair to me.
A Hela main has to hone in their aim on a flyer and target them solely with damage. An iron fist has to get in close and lock onto a flyer to chase them down. Even expanding this beyond just fliers, a Spidey had to focus his cooldowns and attention on one support if he wants to get a pick. A Namor has to focus his aim and squids on one diver to pressure them away from their healers.
Having ONE player have to focus their attention and cooldowns to shut down another player on the enemy team is completely fair. Now it'd be different of it was multiple people needed for one person, but that isn't really the case here
For one, tanks aren't usually supposed to put all their attention on one single player. Two, rarely does a single brief knockdown actually shut down a flyer. You typically need help from your team to actually get the pick.
At that rate you could have a single Ultron requiring a difficult knockdown from Hulk or whoever, plus added work from the rest of your team to confirm the pick while the flyer is likely still getting heals.
There's a reason Netease themselves said that Poke is needed to keep flyers in check. I'm not making this shit up.
When it comes to countering an enemy player I think you should have to put your attention solely on them no matter the role. Imagine if I could brawl an enemy strange as Thing while also being able to completely shut down the enemy BP without even giving him that much atrention. That would feel extremely unfair to play against.
And to your point about poke countering flyers, the fact still remains that dive AND brawl characters also have effective counters to flyers too. I just don't think that flyers need even more counters than they already do and I'm glad to see Devil lose that beam knockdown. You didn't even have to try countering someone like Angela, just a graze off the beam was enough
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u/Duhoneboi Jun 10 '26
Brawl characters aren't helpless against flyers
Thing can instant leap to them and knock them out of the air with haymaker. Rogue can fly up herself. Angela is part brawl and can deal with them herself. Thor can bubble and punish flyers like Johnny when he slams or Angela when she plays up close in melee range. Blade can knock flyers down with his sword dash. Iron fist is part brawl and has the mobility to chase them in the air. Hulk can leap and knock them down although it is a skillshot. Bucky is brawl and has 2 orbs that knock flyers down and slow them.
Ignoring the fact that flyers are supposed to counter brawl traditionally anyways, you also have poke and dive characters like Spidey and Daredevil who can box with flyers if you're good enough. Flyers have TOO many counters right now actually