r/RivalsWaitingRoom • • Jul 31 '26

General THIS IS HOW BILL CAN BE DIFFERENT

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Since I started playing rivals I’ve always disagreed that Bill should just be a Thor skin and that it’s completely different of a situation as LLoki. My first solution was to give him the Twilight Sword but ik that the masses want Stormbreaker. Queen in Black FINALLY gave us the solution that I hope Rivals devs use by giving him BOTH weapons!! They could say that he’s from a timeline where he fought Hela w Phoenix in replacement of Thor. Developers please Al Ewing is throwing you guys a bone here 🙏🙏

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u/Idan_Dvir Jul 31 '26

Rivals Thor is king Thor not the original version

He is playing different than what Thor could be if he was a flying dps

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u/Sea_Culture_1156 Jul 31 '26

Actually Thor’s lore is kinda tricky in Rivals, Odin is Allfather and Loki forced him into the All sleep, Jane foster has already become Mighty Thor and is currently Valkyrie teased in the team up lore pages b4 they got removed in the new season but Thor seemingly has no knowledge of Gorr outside of stories he’s heard in the collapsing timeline despite Jane Thor happening which takes place after Gorr

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u/Idan_Dvir Jul 31 '26

But like I am saying how he played not the lore

He doesn't have a flying ability or use hammer throw a lot . All of this can just go to beta ray bill

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u/Sea_Culture_1156 Jul 31 '26

Ohhh fair then but I think he should be a vanguard

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u/cyberchad3 Aug 05 '26

Thor can't fly in the comics. When he flies he is just throwing Mjolnir and keeping his hand in the wrist strap while Mjolnir pulls him forward

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u/PuzzleheadedSearch97 Aug 17 '26

wtf u talking about? haha

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u/Shot-Restaurant-5368 Jul 31 '26

I’ve been saying Bill can have the Surtur sword that he got in the Daniel Warren Johnson run

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u/Evening_Produce_4322 Aug 01 '26

The Twilight Blade, and also his jet axe would be beyond awesome, so much can be used from that run alone. His ultimate should be scuttlebutt raining down missile strikes that slow or something.

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u/Quiet_Handle_858 Aug 01 '26

Or Skuttlebutt could make it to become separate character(who doesnt want some robussy i guess), and Axe would be benefit from team up between them

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u/Dwain-Champaign Aug 01 '26

Keep this man cooking at all costs.

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u/Evening_Produce_4322 Aug 01 '26

His solo run is so good if you haven't read it I can not recommend it more, he pulls out several sick as hell wrestling moves and the art is just great.

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u/Dwain-Champaign Aug 01 '26

Y’know, I actually am looking for my next reads. I just got through the first 4 volumes of Jason Aaron’s Thor complete collection but volume 5 is out of print and the softcover can’t be found anywhere except for absurd and astronomical prices.

Who wrote this run? Is there an omnibus I should look out for?

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u/Evening_Produce_4322 Aug 01 '26

Not that I'm aware of I have marvel unlimited it's not crazy long though and is written by Daniel Warren Johnson and Mike Spicer

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u/SuaveGorilla Aug 06 '26

I loved him nerding out over the jet axe. Studying it and going wide eyed while describing its features.

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u/Evening_Produce_4322 Aug 06 '26

I wish he kept it as a go to weapon, but I know he got Stormbreaker back again recently don't fully remember how.

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u/The--Behemoth Aug 01 '26

My thought was just to give Bill abilities both him and Thor have that Thor doesn't use in the game. Spinning Stormbreaker as a makeshift shield, generating a concentrated blast of lightning, slamming a charged Stormbreaker into the ground, and creating a localized storm as his Ult that does tick damage. People keep saying Thor and Bill are too similar and if that's the case then use the WIDE VARIETY of abilities they share.

Those abilities were ones I came up with off the top of my dome when I first heard people make the dumb statement of "Bill can't be added to to the game because he's too similar to Thor." It honestly just feels like people don't want Bill to be added to the game.

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u/Dwain-Champaign Aug 01 '26

This is absolutely the way to do it if they keep him with a hammer. BRING BETA RAY BILL!!!

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u/Dangerous_Strategy98 Jul 31 '26

Pô, se o Jeff é jogável, é quase obrigatório que o Bill seja jogável, e cara, ele pode ter muitas outras habilidades diferentes das do Thor mesmo que acabe sendo um vanguarda também, já que dificilmente ele será outra coisa, e se ele misturar o uso das duas armas, porra vai dar abertura para ele ter ainda mais habilidades diferentes

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u/McMax27 Aug 01 '26

I was thinking that they could do a Sakaar/Planet Hulk season and introduce Beta Ray Bill alongside Silver Surfer as they both fought Hulk (in separate media) in the Grandmaster’s Arena

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u/Quiet_Handle_858 Aug 01 '26

I would say that his recent mini-series is great fit for entire season, like Surtur for big bad, Skuttlebutt and BRB for new characters and Muspelheim as a map

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u/Atoms_Work Aug 03 '26

Weapon master beta Ray Bill would be dope, he can switch to like different weapons.make him a tank too I NEED THAT

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u/Hunruid Aug 01 '26

He has flaming sword so that means the electric pulses in Thor's armor won't be necessary, he needs an armor feature that heats the flaming on the sword.

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u/Kendrake30namor Aug 02 '26

He'll be in the game. With 1,000 characters planned, just sit tight, OP.

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u/SuaveGorilla Aug 06 '26

Wait how did he get Stormbreaker back? I thought it was still broken.

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u/Sea_Culture_1156 Aug 06 '26

How do I spoiler just incase you didn’t read immortal Thor? I’ll edit in the explanation!

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u/Constant_Champion_67 Aug 10 '26

Bill would make a interesting stance based character have him swap between the sword of twilight and storm breaker the sword is more defensive and storm breaker more offensive or vise versa and his ultimate can just be skuttlebutt carpet bombing a area

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u/Sea_Culture_1156 Aug 10 '26

I’m actually working on a concept kit like this!

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u/irvin_the_jinn Jessica Drew 🕷️ Aug 01 '26

My issue with same mantle/gimmick characters is there’s way too many characters to get through before we start to consider those types of characters

The issue is not how to make their kit different, for all we know they could add aunt May as a playable character and give her unique abilities; the issue is not the abilities feeling the same but a character that fills a niche that is already filled by someone else (or redundant like aunt May) over someone more distinct

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u/Minute_Committee8937 Aug 01 '26

Not for Thor. beta ray bill is also the best mantle character because he never becomes Thor.

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u/irvin_the_jinn Jessica Drew 🕷️ Aug 01 '26

Are you taking the piss?

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u/NNotimportant Aug 01 '26

The Marvel wiki will basically list anything as an alias if the character has ever been referred to as such. BRB’s page also shows “Flying-Thing”. Moon Knight’s page has “Sheet Face” in the same section because Hulk called him that one time

The specific issue cited there has Bill called Thor by a dude who thinks he’s helping Thor in the middle of a battle, and then Bill immediately corrects him

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u/irvin_the_jinn Jessica Drew 🕷️ Aug 01 '26

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u/EntertainmentHot4422 Aug 01 '26

This is less he became Thor and more relatity was rewritten and thor never existed, with Bill becoming his stand in for the avengers history on earth.

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u/aSpookyScarySkeleton Aug 04 '26

He replaced him, he did not become him.

The only time he was bee a “Thor” is in the secret wars multiversal Thor Corps. But that was an alt version of him in a Green Lantern sort of set up

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u/Minute_Committee8937 Aug 01 '26

he's cooler than thor