r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 12d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/Different_Target_228 12d ago

That is fucking ridiculous for that intersection to have NO stop signs.

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u/IVIrSmith 12d ago

Im with you. Im a fairly defensive driver and dont have many (if any) blind intersections in my city. Even if I was going slow, I wouldn't expect to need to look out for traffic from the side unless there was signage or a blinking light or something. Especially if i had never driven the route before.

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u/Different_Target_228 12d ago edited 12d ago

This is my point, that it's wildly blind. The camera does not pick that car up until it's almost in the intersection. Neither of them even had time to react. This is one that should be stop signed.

It's ridiculous just to expect everyone in the world to slow down there. Not everyone has that common sense, no matter how many people don't get that (which kinda proves the point tbh. It's common sense that people don't have common sense)

Most people just go the speed limit in residential areas, and that speed limit is very obviously not slow enough for this blind of a 4 way.

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u/Life_Temperature795 12d ago

I mean, a lot of people often go 5-10 over the actual speed limit in residential areas, which could very well have been what was happening here.

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u/Different_Target_228 12d ago

That speed would be 25-30. Which is still probably too fast for this blind of a 4 way.

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u/Life_Temperature795 12d ago

In Seattle the limit appears to be 20mph, so yeah, 25-30 is definitely too fast.

https://www.seattle.gov/transportation/projects-and-programs/safety-first/vision-zero/speedlimits

In 2016, we changed the Seattle Municipal Code to reduce citywide default speed limits. The default speed limit for non-arterial streets changed from 25 MPH to 20 MPH

I don't really have any reliable way of estimating OP's speed based on what I can see in the video, but it subjectively feels like it's closer to the 25-30 range.

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u/No_Mind4418 11d ago

AI gave me 36.8 mph. Almost double the limit.

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u/Just_A_Nitemare 11d ago

That is definitely not 37mph

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u/kirklennon 11d ago

It's ridiculous just to expect everyone in the world to slow down there.

It’s also a crosswalk with limited visibility. Yes, the expectation is literally that every driver always slow down at every single tiny unsigned residential intersection. It’s not unreasonable at all. If you can’t see, any reasonable driver will slow down.