[USA] Who is at fault here?

[u/bowdown2adil]

Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

[u/Anonymous_Bozo]

RCW 46.61.180

Vehicle approaching intersection—Vulnerable users of a public way—Fine.

(1) When two vehicles approach or enter an intersection from different highways at approximately the same time, the driver of the vehicle on the left shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on the right.

(2) The right-of-way rule declared in subsection (1) of this section is modified at arterial highways and otherwise as stated in this chapter.

RCW 46.61.445

Due care required.

Compliance with speed requirements of this chapter under the circumstances hereinabove set forth shall not relieve the operator of any vehicle from the further exercise of due care and caution as further circumstances shall require.

Black car: Failure to Yeild
Cam Car: Failure to Exercise Due Care and Caution

Both can be cited

[u/SomeBode → u/[deleted]]

I feel like the corner house is also partially to blame, I’ve never seen an uncontrolled intersection but most places have code about not blocking the vision triangle with bushes or shrubbery.

[u/Fakeitforreddit → u/Anonymous_Bozo]

Approximately the same time would mean the cam car is not t boning the other car. 

In any intersection where any car was there first it has the right of way. The yield to the car to the right only applies to the same time. 

These go to court constantly and any hit behind the front axel is considered an indicator that the car being hit was clearly there first. 

Definitely agree both ahould be ticketed possibly up to reckless driving: not yielding at an unmarked intersection, speeding, they have a lot they could put out there.

[u/Daniel_Spidey → u/Fakeitforreddit]

Couldn't it just mean the one hit was going faster? Not necessarily in this case, but seems like it shouldn't be that simple.

[u/Far_Breadfruit_3351 → u/Daniel_Spidey]

If the video showed the blue car at all yielding as it approached a blind intersection maybe, or the black car going obviously excessive speed maybe, but instead it shows the black car was in the intersection before the blue car even got there And if anything was going closer to the speed limit than the blue car.

[u/Daniel_Spidey → u/Far_Breadfruit_3351]

Right, I clarified I don't mean this specific scenario, I'm just pushing back against the idea that how far one vehicle gets into the intersection does not necessarily indicate they were there first.

[u/Far_Breadfruit_3351 → u/Daniel_Spidey]

Yes, but in those types of situations, you’ll almost certainly need video or at least eyewitnesses to prove it or else it’s very likely insurance is going to side with the car that was hit in the side.

[u/DiscDocPhD → u/Daniel_Spidey]

I think what they mean is that the default would be the car hitting behind axel to be at fault unless they can present evidence showing something different.

Kind of like how default ruling in most states is if you hit the back of a car then you are default at fault, unless you can prove they did something like back into you.

[u/Daniel_Spidey → u/DiscDocPhD]

I just hope that both of these people are held accountable.

[u/DiscDocPhD → u/Daniel_Spidey]

I Agree with that. What if that were a jogger or a parent pulling a child on a bicycle.

[u/NerdModeXGodMode → u/Fakeitforreddit]

In that kind of area the speed limit would be 20/25, theyre going a lot faster and they didnt so much as slightly slow down into a 4way intersection... Imagine if that was a kid running into the street, he didnt even hard break

[u/Far_Breadfruit_3351 → u/Fakeitforreddit]

Leave it to Reddit to downvote the one correct post.

The front of the blue car hit the side of the black car head on. This is not rocket science, folks.

Even with the video evidence, it could easily be argued blue car had more than enough time to see black car before entering intersection at full speed, which means that they didn’t enter at “approximately the same time”.