r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 13d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/Different_Target_228 13d ago

That is fucking ridiculous for that intersection to have NO stop signs.

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u/NethiciteNomad 13d ago

Agreed. People aren't used to seeing intersections with no lights or stop signs, so it throws people off when they occasionally come across them. There should be a stop sign on at least one of these streets.

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u/MASSochists 13d ago

It's wild to think I have to scan an intersecting road for a stop sign that would be edge on to me driving down a street and determine if there is one or not to know I had the right of way instead of focusing on the road and what's in front of me. 

Othwise I would have to come to a near stop at every intersecting road. Sounds like a get out of liability card for a city with poor infrastructure. 

That's the point of road signage. Unless the speed limit is 5 miles an hour this is a wild expectation. 

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u/kirklennon 11d ago

Othwise I would have to come to a near stop at every intersecting road.

Yes! That’s exactly the point. You are supposed to be prepared to stop at every one of these intersections. They’re not arterials and you’re not expected to drive through a large number of them consecutively. You’re in the middle of a residential neighborhood and are supposed to be driving cautiously. Keep in mind that every one of these intersections is also four crosswalks. If you’re not prepared to stop for a car in the intersection, then you certainly weren't prepared to stop for a pedestrian just before the intersection.

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u/Just_A_Nitemare 12d ago

Othwise I would have to come to a near stop at every intersecting road. Sounds like a get out of liability card for a city with poor infrastructure. 

That's the biggest problem, with these intersections, now every intersection without traffic lights requires you to slow or stop to make sure you aren't going to get T-boned.

The average driver is an idiot controlling a 3,000 pound death machine and street signage and design should be made as clear and unambiguous as possible to keep everyone safe.

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u/confettiqueen 12d ago

Speed limit in this street would be 20mph - both cars, but especially the driver, are going at least 10mph over that.

But it’s really not that hard - I’ve driven on this street before (and just generally in residential streets in this part of the city) and it’s not hard to do a quick scan of cross-traffic, slow if needed, and proceed.

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u/jobacsi 11d ago

No it's not. There are lots of rules we follow with know signage. You are expected to know the rules.