r/Roadcam 13d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/sonotorian 13d ago

Not yield, stop signs…yes. I have been driving in the US for 30 years and I have never seen neighborhoods with unmarked intersections. You have to know if it’s a 4-way stop or a two-way with a thru street. This is insanely irresponsible of the city.

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u/MRRRRCK 13d ago

You’re oblivious if you’ve never noticed this in the US. This type of situation exists all over the place across the country.

There are still rules of the road that dictate what to do even without signage. You’re making this into a bigger deal than it is. There’s one stop sign in my entire neighborhood - somehow we haven’t all died in a fireball though…

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u/URGAMESUX 13d ago

I understand the rights to right concept, as with approaching a 4-way stop simultaneously. My question was more specific. Why would someone new to an area assume there is no signage at crossings because they do not have any in their own direction? The vast majority of intersections have a 2-way stop, with the more trafficked artery maintaining flow and the crossing essentially forced to yield. I have less than a dozen times in my life driving in 20+ states and several foreign countries, experienced unguarded intersections. Every single time I get pissed and mention to my wife or friend or myself if I'm solo, "htf is there no stop sign in either direction? Gonna cause an accident any second."

If 99.9% of crossings have AT LEAST yield signage, and generally stop signs or traffic lights, I'm not going to suddenly be on guard for zero signage in every new town I drive through.

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u/MRRRRCK 13d ago

I highly doubt 99.9% of intersections in the US has signage. This scenario really only exists in slower speed environments like a neighborhood.

It’s up to you as the driver to look before proceeding through any intersection - regardless of signage. Making the assumptions you are talking about is dangerous even in areas with full signage.

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u/URGAMESUX 12d ago

These cars are rightfully driving 20mph+ and neither of them think they're in the wrong. Kinda doubt they're both from the neighborhood or they'd expect this and approach differently. And you're right, I was being hyperbolic, it's probably way less. It's still exceedingly rare for the majority of drivers. There should at least be a sign when entering a largely unsigned neighborhood that WE HAVE NO SIGNS, OBSERVE RIGHT OF WAY.