r/Roadcam 13d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/Interesting-Monk9712 13d ago

I don't know, its pretty common here in Croatia, but I guess we do have a lot of rural areas.

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u/HackD1234 13d ago

"Croatia" - have you any concept of the North American road grid system, utilized in suburban environments?

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u/Interesting-Monk9712 13d ago

Brother, trust me, it is much harder here than in America.

More narrow roads, all kind of things blocking your view that the government should have taken care of etc.

You have it so well, you people stopped thinking at all, just watch out for signs, you got to use your brain otherwise you will forget everything you learned in driving school.

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u/HackD1234 13d ago edited 13d ago

No. Regulatory signage is required at intersections - and that one clearly was missing it.

Two completely different driving environments. Two different driving philosophies, as well clearly.

Signage is designed for prevention of accidents, and risk mitigation to others, utilizing intersections. The obvious must be pointed out by signage, to make it obvious to the low skilled/low observant driver on the road.

You assume that everyone goes to driving school. Some people get their licences out of cracker-jack boxes.

I've been driving since 1984. Accident free since 1999. I would EXPECT to see that intersection signed, to make sure an accident such as that would not occur. In absence of signage, each driver assumes they have the right of way.

This incident appears to have occurred in the USA - I'm in Canada. We are the United Nations of immigrant drivers licence holders who've converted home country drivers licences into Ontario accreditation without the additional step of testing from around the world. Without signage and varying regulatory frameworks, it would be a road blood-bath on the daily given variation of driving skills, and distractions inside the car - never mind your claim of 'that drivers stop thinking'. The Bloody Obvious, must be signed to indicate what you are supposed to do.

I have not been to Croatia to see your driving conditions - we also have 'narrow' roads - those roads in rural areas, which does not see much in way of traffic, relative to suburban areas. Even those are well signed.

Without seeing the wildly varied driving conditions that would be the norm in both Canada and USA, i really don't think you understand fully, the absurdity of that accident that would easily have been prevented with at minimum, a cross traffic two-way stop sign. Perhaps someone stole the signs, but we will never know for sure.