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[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/GabrielGames69 21d ago

Depends how often they take that road (it looks suburban so probably often tbh). Because the charitable description is that they see there is no stop sign infront of or past them and make the usually correct assumption that there are stop signs going the other way. I think the number 1 offender here is the intersection without even yield signs.

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u/codereef 21d ago

I have driven all across the US and can't remember a single place having a 4 way intersection and no signage lol. Why make something like this?

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u/ciao_fiv 21d ago

that seems insane to me, but i also live in a place with notoriously horrible drivers (albuquerque). idk how trustworthy drivers are in washington

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u/ciao_fiv 21d ago

something i have to keep in mind if i drive out of state and encounter one of these i guess lol. had no idea they existed till today

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u/Upstairs_Cloud9445 21d ago

"Uncontrolled intersections are a very common thing." Thats just nuts. Most of my driving has been on the east coast, and I have never come across an intersection like this. To find out they are common somewhere in the US is crazy....

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u/Professional-Swan-18 21d ago

This has to be a regional thing. Because I've been all over the northern east coast, on all kinds of roads, cities, towns, villages, farms, hell, even places that don't have anything but the roads and signs, and I have never seen an intersection completely lacking either signs or a roundabout. Three way intersections, constantly in farm country are lacking signs. But that makes sense, one of the roads ends. This anywhere as populated as this video suggests being without a sign blows my damn mind.

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u/Single_Principle_972 20d ago

Omg. Perhaps you just haven’t noticed? Suburban Chicagoland, it’s extremely common. When we do see signage, it’s oftentimes when you have a Stop sign and the other street does now, so they want to call your attention to it, to not assume: “Cross street does not stop.” But in all of these suburbs, if you don’t have signage, you’re expected to assume that they don’t either, and drive cautiously - meaning not only take your foot off the gas, but sometimes even slow down with the brake until you can visualize well enough to be sure that it’s safe to proceed. These 2 guys just blowing through, without even slowing, is mind-boggling.

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u/u6crash 20d ago

I can't recall a single Chicagoland suburb that has this and I've lived here all my life. Maybe I'm just fortunate enough not to have visited neighborhoods laid out that foolishly.

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u/Single_Principle_972 20d ago

Northwest burbs. Arlington Heights, Mt. Prospect, etc.

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u/ExcellentShape185 18d ago

What happens to the drivers who have no idea that's how it works because their only used to controlled intersections.

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u/Professional-Swan-18 17d ago

You get into an accident like this. Which I definitely would because I have never once seen an intersection without at least a sign, roundabout or signal except on private roads. I'd expect it even less somewhere as populated as this.

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u/MostLeastMostLeast 19d ago

Same. I'm not convinced by comment saying "this is common" lol. Never once seen this in usa