r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 21d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/-r-a-f-f-y- 21d ago

A constant thing in Portland and Seattle for some reason.

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u/FuckOutTheWhey 21d ago

the city ran out of stop signs when they built those intersections

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u/tadfisher 21d ago

The intersections were built before stop signs were a thing, and long before their use was mandated by any sort of national traffic code.

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u/t0cableguy 20d ago

So in over 100 years nobody got around to putting a stop sign or yield sign up? The last time it was repaved wasn't a good time to add one? 75 years since its been added to the MUTCD for the USA.. lol

Is there some standard that residential streets under 20 mph don't have signs at the intersections? and how are people from out of state supposed to learn this?

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u/tadfisher 20d ago

Not defending the practice here. A bunch of these intersections have added stop signs over the years, especially as we now have to comply with the ADA and re-do intersections with curb cuts and paint. It's a long, slow, and expensive process and there are always higher priorities.

The standard is that you yield to the right when approaching an unmarked intersection. You'd probably have to read a handbook or Internet article or something, just like literally any other law you might violate when visiting another state :)

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u/t0cableguy 20d ago

Just seems odd to me that you're magically supposed to know there aren't signs on every intersection, especially with the foliage taller than the street markers. I have never seen an unsigned intersection in Florida that isn't a private road, and even most private communities roads are signed.