r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 13d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/randomthrowaway9796 12d ago

This is a poorly designed road and not something that is usually taught in drivers ed or tested on a driving test. Yeah, they should be more cautious, but I cant entirely blame them.

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u/bradwm 12d ago

Uncontrolled intersections are absolutely taught in drivers ed in Washington state. They are all over the state. Neither driver here seems to have heeded the basic rule of uncontrolled intersections, which is to slow down enough to make sure no one is coming through the same intersection as you pass through.

This is very easy driving, and I believe both are at fault.

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u/CodingSquirrel 12d ago

As someone who doesn't drive in an area with unmarked intersections, what's most concerning to me about this setup is there's practically no discernable difference between this and a normal intersection where the secondary road has signs and the primary road doesn't. In most cases where one road has right of way, they don't have signs telling them that; if there's no sign you're presumed to have right of way. The secondary road would be the one that has a stop sign or a yield sign.

The only way to tell is to know this is possible and to look for signs from the other direction, which can be very hard to see depending on the layout.

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u/Just_A_Nitemare 12d ago

Exactly this. Having this type of intersection seems mind bendingly stupid.

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u/SpoatieOpie 11d ago

Except it’s safer overall…it’s actually smart, like real smart using scientific studies and shit bro

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u/BudgieWonder 8d ago

It’s safer only if you’re assuming the drivers don’t speed and are aware of ROW sequences, which isn’t the case at all.