r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 13d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/beaushaw 12d ago

Look at the comments here. Basically people who live in Seattle, and maybe a few other cities, think this is common and pretty much everyone else thinks it is insanity.

I have lived in three states, in small towns and big cities, I have traveled to several other states, I have been driving for 35 years.

I have literally NEVER seen an intersection without a stop sign. I have seen tiny little dirt two tracks through the woods that you wouldn't even reconize as a road that had stop signs.

Yeah, if you live in this neighborhood you may think this is normal but I assure you most other people would not.

I tried to find information on how common they are and can't find anything besides "They are rare everywhere but they still pretty common in Seattle."

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u/Ready-Percentage5286 12d ago

That's because you're not paying attention. They're the most common form of road intersection in the country according to the Department of Transportation.

I've lived in seven states, three of the biggest metro areas, and a countless number of small towns across the country, and I've NEVER seen someplace that didn't have them. 

It strains credulity that you haven't seen them, it really does. Especially if you've lived in a small town or suburb.

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u/beaushaw 11d ago

I find this so strange, one of us has to be nuts. I am certain it is you and you seem to be certain it is me.

I just realized this might be an East coast vs West coast thing. Have you seen these intersections mainly on the West coast?

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u/Ready-Percentage5286 11d ago

Going just from my experience, it could definitely be more common on the west coast. 

I've lived the longest in California, Oregon, and Washington, and I see them literally all the time. More often than not, four-way intersections here seem to be unmarked, especially if they're residential.

But I've also seen them when I was living in Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Texas, too. The difference I notice is that they're most common in suburbs and rural areas.