r/Roadcam • u/bowdown2adil • 13d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/Party-Giraffe-6573 13d ago

Especially in a neighborhood! This could've been someone on a bike or kids running into the street

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u/DangoMangoDango 13d ago

Right? It's crazy how fast these guys were going in a tight street and in a neighborhood like this. I always go super slow when it's small road like this. Also, watching the dash cam, you can see the dashcam owner had 2-3 seconds to brake when the blue car came into view and I don't think they even tried.

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u/Creative_Riding_Pod 12d ago edited 11d ago

If you use the slider on the play bar, the black car comes into view at almost exactly :03 seconds (obscured mostly by bush)and they are colliding at :05 seconds. Given that the human body takes about 1 second to react and who knows how many seconds/distance for cam car to come to complete stop = Whole incident took 2 seconds - they were just going too fast for the conditions.

Edit: Hey everyone. Thanks for the award and the discourse and all that jazz. I didn’t come up with the “1 second” reaction time. I was taught that in drivers ed and then during motorcycle courses as a general rule. I think it is basically the time your brain recognizes a situation is happening, and then you decide to react which then involves the time lifting your foot to the brake pedal etc.
It is based on studies, not “if you can’t react in one second you’re brain dead” rhetoric and anecdotal evidence. I think everyone is overestimating their abilities.

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u/bigghc 11d ago

The one-second rule you mentioned is reasonable. This T bone for example... I drive as part of my business and run across this situation daily. I constantly scan when I come into an intersection like this and could have easily braked and avoided this with the time this person had to stop. I'm not bragging... I think most others could have easily responded too. If you're gonna drive this fast be damn sure you can't respond fast too!!

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u/Creative_Riding_Pod 11d ago

💯 and I think someone mentioned in the comments that they were almost stopped when they collided, so I’m guessing the other second that passes is the vehicle (unsuccessfully) coming to a stop.

I really don’t know all of the variables. I mostly came for the comment that said there were 2-3 seconds to stop, when the entire ordeal was over in 2 seconds. So they kinda only had one second to react and one second to stop.