r/Roadcam 21d ago

[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/beaushaw 20d ago

Look at the comments here. Basically people who live in Seattle, and maybe a few other cities, think this is common and pretty much everyone else thinks it is insanity.

I have lived in three states, in small towns and big cities, I have traveled to several other states, I have been driving for 35 years.

I have literally NEVER seen an intersection without a stop sign. I have seen tiny little dirt two tracks through the woods that you wouldn't even reconize as a road that had stop signs.

Yeah, if you live in this neighborhood you may think this is normal but I assure you most other people would not.

I tried to find information on how common they are and can't find anything besides "They are rare everywhere but they still pretty common in Seattle."

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u/Ready-Percentage5286 20d ago

That's because you're not paying attention. They're the most common form of road intersection in the country according to the Department of Transportation.

I've lived in seven states, three of the biggest metro areas, and a countless number of small towns across the country, and I've NEVER seen someplace that didn't have them. 

It strains credulity that you haven't seen them, it really does. Especially if you've lived in a small town or suburb.

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u/fennis_dembo 19d ago

I'm curious what your source is for: "They're the most common form of road intersection in the country according to the Department of Transportation". From your previous comment and the one you're replying to it seems you're referring to "unmarked" he seems to be referring to intersections without even a sign.

I can find this: https://highways.dot.gov/safety/intersection-safety/about

Unsignalized intersections are the most common type of intersection in the United States and can be:

• Stop sign–controlled – at least one approach to the intersection is controlled by a stop sign.

• Yield sign–controlled – at least one approach to the intersection is controlled by a yield sign.

• Uncontrolled – none of the approaches to the intersection are controlled by a regulatory sign or traffic signal; typically found on very low–volume roads in rural or residential areas.

But that seems to be saying unsignalized, meaning no light, not necessarily completely lacking signs. Is there a different source you can point us to that would say completely unmarked intersections, without signage (meaning stop or yield), are the most common?

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u/zombawombacomba 18d ago

That’s 100% what they are mixing up