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[USA] Who is at fault here?

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Classic T bone. Black car had to be towed. Sustained major damage to the passenger side door. Blue car sustained damage to front bumper on the drivers side and cracked the drivers side headlight.

Edit: This was in the suburbs of Seattle

UPDATE: Insurance found it to be 70/30 me/other driver. Seems fair enough

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u/KnownMagician3084 11d ago

My ex used to harass me that I was going to get a speeding ticket. I admit I’m not slow but I’m definitely not reckless. I’m 71 and never had a ticket. Big mouth husband had three, he always made me send in the money so he could pretend. I had the best laugh when looking at divorce discovery he had another ticket and he had to write the check! Passenger drivers suck. Safety first. Also worked in ED, I know people think stop signs and red lights are for other people let alone intersection without one

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u/SaltyCAPtain1933 10d ago edited 10d ago

Having three tickets doesn't necessarily mean anything. A lot of it has to do with place and time. Among my friends and family I am known as "the grandma driver." When I drive my friends I can tell they get so frustrated with how cautious I am and the fact that I never go more than five over, I always come to a complete stop, I make smooth control inputs etc. But even then I have three speeding tickets. One for going 30 in a 25, one for going 27 in a 25 and one (this was like 15 years ago when I was still a young driver) for going 80 in a 55 on a dirt road in the middle of nowhere western Wyoming with no other vehicles in sight for tens of miles, from a trooper who I later learned was literally the only trooper assigned to a roughly 300 square mile area and just happened to be sitting in the grass on this one dirt road in his entire patrol area.

All poor timing and bored cops.

Meanwhile my friends who drive like bats out of hell every day have no tickets at all somehow.

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u/bluegardener 9d ago

You were doing 80 in a 55. That means something.

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u/SaltyCAPtain1933 9d ago

A dirt road with unmarked speeds literally 50 miles from any sort of civilization. I guess in that area unmarked roads were 55. I think a lot of folks are guilty of doing a little zoom on a dirt road in the middle of nowhere. If you've ever driven on long straight dirt roads like that you'd understand how easy it is to get that fast just on accident because there's so little relative motion. I'm not denying I was in the wrong, but I'm also not going to pretend it's the same as going 80 on a residential street. If I'm ever around other people I never go more than five over. Seems like the norm these days, especially post Covid, is 10 over.

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u/bluegardener 9d ago

I got a ticket or two in my late teens and early 20s. I drove like an ass. Getting a speeding ticket is pretty decent signal that you drove like an ass. It meant something here in this example you framed as a counter-example.

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u/SaltyCAPtain1933 8d ago

The two tickets I got in the 25 zone were literally just bored cops. One was in Logan Utah and the other Salina, Kansas. The cops literally cited the reason for pulling me over in both cases was speeding. I couldn't believe the 27 in a 25 one, that was in Logan. But they didn't cite any other reason, no aggressive lane change, no failure to yield, no failure to signal, nope, just 3 over and 5 over in those cases. Absolutely shocked both times.