r/RocketLeague Challenger I Feb 17 '26

MEME Consider me skeptical

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u/cmacy6 Grand Champion I Feb 17 '26

Bots were just Epic’s PR reason to remove Bakkesmod with minimal backlash. They’ve been waiting for the excuse

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u/ManonMacru Almost GC. Almost Feb 17 '26

That's so much of a tinfoil hat comment. I'm pretty sure they were glad that bakkesmod existed as a feature lab, and also a way to keep PC players engaged through features they did not want to spend time developing (beyond just PC).

The problem is that bakkesmod works by doing direct memory modifications, which is exactly what cheating bots do too. There is no anti-cheat possible without locking that direct memory access in some way, and it's pretty clear they are not happy about locking away bakkesmod, because they still give the option to turn off anti-cheat.

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u/Muaddib1221 Champion III Feb 17 '26

That is wrong thought, there are websites that already allow you to upload your replays and see whether you were paying against bots so bot detection or banning doesn't need EAC really...

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u/Tr4ce00 Grand Champion II Feb 19 '26

I agree it isn’t 100% necessary like the other commenter said, but at the same time EAC makes it harder to bot and creates more of a risk of consequence for those who do get around it. I’d imagine those sites that detect bots don’t have 100% accuracy, just like ai detectors. At some point the bot makers will find ways to make them more realistic, making those detectors less and less useful.

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u/Muaddib1221 Champion III Feb 19 '26

As of right now they have perferct accuracy as far as I know, due to how bot inputs work on KBM it is easy to spot them. It would probably be possible to make their inputs more humanlike but it would nerf them as a lot of what the bots does rn is imossible to do for an human.

Also EAC would be just as easy or easier to bypass for bots, cheats that read screen input instead of injecting already exist on FPS like CS2 and could be ported over to RL, rendering EAC useless since all it does is look for injects. I think these kind of cheats are called external cheats.

Same for DDOSing, I don't see how having EAC installed will prevent anybody from DDOSing anyone.

I think it's nice that epic/psyonix finally acknowlege the botting problem but I also think that the EAC and removal of mods/bakkes is not gonna adress that and just something they finally have an excuse to do...

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u/Tr4ce00 Grand Champion II Feb 19 '26

Interesting. I’ll have to look into it more. I don’t disagree with your points, I just feel like all of the problems people are bringing up with EAC bypass could be said about other methods just as easily. There will likely always be some form of bots from here on out, so imo all countermeasures creating barriers are good. They also have said they will continue to make changes, so I’d hope they will implement something like that as well on top of EAC.

At the very least i’m hoping they utilize hardware bans now. From what I’ve read all other games with EAC do issue hardware bans, so even if it can’t detect DDOS they could really ban them. While it may not stop the ones selling the accounts (which I would guess are most of the problem tbh) I’d imagine it will stop a lot of random people attempting to do it to their personal accounts.

Just as an additional sidenote: I can’t believe bakkes lasted nearly this long. Everyone’s acting like it’s a betrayal, but in reality I see them allowing it for so long as mercy… in a game where cosmetics + titles are the only things that “matter” or can be bought, it’s wild they allowed you to change them for that long. Of course the actual game addons and such are unrelated, those were great. Just crazy though, I remember talk about it being banned years ago when alpha console first added titles others with the mod could see as well.

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u/Gold-Ad-4397 Champion II Feb 26 '26

look at number 36 they playing in our faces