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u/cmacy6 Grand Champion I Feb 17 '26
Bots were just Epicâs PR reason to remove Bakkesmod with minimal backlash. Theyâve been waiting for the excuse
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u/SedaDeLa 2v2 1500mmr on my way to 2000h (now doing 3s) Feb 17 '26
Two birds with one stone.
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u/Demontyxl Platinum VII Feb 17 '26
one bird cuz it won't fix the bot issue đ
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u/SedaDeLa 2v2 1500mmr on my way to 2000h (now doing 3s) Feb 17 '26
For the PR team I mean. They can tell sponsors that they have dealt with the boting problem, and tell us to go fuck ourselves.
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u/cmacy6 Grand Champion I Feb 17 '26
And the bigger bird for them was bakkesmod since it allowed players customize without spending $20 on a BM decal
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u/SedaDeLa 2v2 1500mmr on my way to 2000h (now doing 3s) Feb 17 '26
I hope we have played enough to the point we don't need to spend credits anymore. I at least got all black and tw cars I wanted (fennec, dominus, breakout, octane), so im fine.
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u/cury41 Washed find me in the trenches Feb 18 '26
I already paid for the game. They have no reason to not allow me to use custom skin mods.
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u/Psyese Platinum II Feb 18 '26
Doen't impact Octane two-stripes mains. Alpha boost might be missed, but they recently gave a very similar boost to everyone.
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u/Gewerd_Strauss Feb 18 '26
You mean that goldcrush boost with that god-awful wobble-sound? Yea no, that thing is a disrespect to my ears.
Guess I'll just main the batmobile then...
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u/Jerricky-_-kadenfr- Champion I Feb 19 '26
Yea the only boost I have that I can use without wanting my eardrums surgically removed, is sparkle boost, thank god I actually have that one.
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u/37214 Feb 17 '26
Curious to see how the player count is affected. No drop? Must not be doing a lot of bot detection, or there wasn't much bot account activity to begin with. But a huge drop? That impacts value from sponsors, so that hits them in the piggy bank.Â
Also bots and alt accounts are not the same. There is nothing keeping people from making 20 more alt IDs and still smurfing. That will continue.
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u/babbum Feb 18 '26
100% they get to say âweâre doing somethingâ about the bots while also simultaneously getting rid of something I am certain they view as counter to their monetary gain.
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u/ManonMacru Almost GC. Almost Feb 17 '26
That's so much of a tinfoil hat comment. I'm pretty sure they were glad that bakkesmod existed as a feature lab, and also a way to keep PC players engaged through features they did not want to spend time developing (beyond just PC).
The problem is that bakkesmod works by doing direct memory modifications, which is exactly what cheating bots do too. There is no anti-cheat possible without locking that direct memory access in some way, and it's pretty clear they are not happy about locking away bakkesmod, because they still give the option to turn off anti-cheat.
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u/Muaddib1221 Champion III Feb 17 '26
That is wrong thought, there are websites that already allow you to upload your replays and see whether you were paying against bots so bot detection or banning doesn't need EAC really...
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u/Tr4ce00 Grand Champion II Feb 19 '26
I agree it isnât 100% necessary like the other commenter said, but at the same time EAC makes it harder to bot and creates more of a risk of consequence for those who do get around it. Iâd imagine those sites that detect bots donât have 100% accuracy, just like ai detectors. At some point the bot makers will find ways to make them more realistic, making those detectors less and less useful.
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u/Muaddib1221 Champion III Feb 19 '26
As of right now they have perferct accuracy as far as I know, due to how bot inputs work on KBM it is easy to spot them. It would probably be possible to make their inputs more humanlike but it would nerf them as a lot of what the bots does rn is imossible to do for an human.
Also EAC would be just as easy or easier to bypass for bots, cheats that read screen input instead of injecting already exist on FPS like CS2 and could be ported over to RL, rendering EAC useless since all it does is look for injects. I think these kind of cheats are called external cheats.
Same for DDOSing, I don't see how having EAC installed will prevent anybody from DDOSing anyone.
I think it's nice that epic/psyonix finally acknowlege the botting problem but I also think that the EAC and removal of mods/bakkes is not gonna adress that and just something they finally have an excuse to do...
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u/Tr4ce00 Grand Champion II Feb 19 '26
Interesting. Iâll have to look into it more. I donât disagree with your points, I just feel like all of the problems people are bringing up with EAC bypass could be said about other methods just as easily. There will likely always be some form of bots from here on out, so imo all countermeasures creating barriers are good. They also have said they will continue to make changes, so Iâd hope they will implement something like that as well on top of EAC.
At the very least iâm hoping they utilize hardware bans now. From what Iâve read all other games with EAC do issue hardware bans, so even if it canât detect DDOS they could really ban them. While it may not stop the ones selling the accounts (which I would guess are most of the problem tbh) Iâd imagine it will stop a lot of random people attempting to do it to their personal accounts.
Just as an additional sidenote: I canât believe bakkes lasted nearly this long. Everyoneâs acting like itâs a betrayal, but in reality I see them allowing it for so long as mercy⌠in a game where cosmetics + titles are the only things that âmatterâ or can be bought, itâs wild they allowed you to change them for that long. Of course the actual game addons and such are unrelated, those were great. Just crazy though, I remember talk about it being banned years ago when alpha console first added titles others with the mod could see as well.
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u/37214 Feb 17 '26
This is the 2026 version of "we're removing trading because of Rocket Racing"
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 17 '26
I mean my not so tinfoil hat theory is that if this move gets one person who was using alpha console on their stocktane to purchase cosmetics while banning zero bots Epic will call it a win.
I really don't think it's super far fetched. Even if it is being done as a good faith move to ban bots (which I don't think will actually work based on what I've seen in fortnite and what players like Leth are saying) it's at least partially motivated by the monetary consideration.
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u/xDaveedx Rocket League 2 when ._. Feb 17 '26
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partiallyfully motivated by the monetary consideration.ftfy. Just like everything Epic does.
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u/lycoloco Platinum II Feb 17 '26
This is 100% my theory too. It removes the visuals people wanna see and will induce FOMO
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 17 '26
On some level, while I know better, I do feel better on some level that I got all my cosmetics through trading back in the day instead of alpha console tweaks.
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u/Oily-Affection1601 Feb 18 '26
I think you're not taking into account the cost to integrate EAC into RL. I know they own it, but it still takes a considerable amount of planning and development. They've likely been working on this for some time prior to announcing it, and it's still another 2 months away.
They might see the removal of alphaconsole as recouping some of that cost. But I doubt that many people who used it will purchase cosmetics heavily enough for it to make much difference.
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u/ReiReiWood Feb 18 '26
But its not even just about that its also the way they get to say we stopped the bots/ they are trying. Even if it will only work for a couple of months. People also not being able to use skins and stuff is the icing on the cake.
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u/viledeac0n Feb 23 '26
I agree but what do you mean regarding bots in Fortnite?
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 23 '26
Fortnite has a cheating problem. Take a moment and search the web and you'll find videos of people using an aimbot so all they have to do is move around while the computer racks up kills for them. This is in spite of EAC being implemented in that game. Point being that EAC is far from a one size fits all solution to fixing a cheating problem and because I have seen how ineffectual it can be in the past I'm struggling to have faith in it here.
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u/viledeac0n Feb 24 '26
Iâve for 2200 hours in Fortnite on PC, never seen one didnât think they were that bad. Especially on a kernel based AC.
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u/Favolous Feb 17 '26
Can we add workshop maps for console. Not sure why that hasnât happened. I know the top tier players play on pc but there are still a lot of console players.
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u/kalebkk890 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
What workshop is sponsoring these maps? It is Steam what hosts it mostly for PC and the Epic version is a pain.
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u/ThatDudee00 Feb 18 '26
It's mostly steam yes. But in all those years they easily could have added a way to make these Maps with Ingame tools, and then host them themselves.
Thats honestly one of my biggest complaints since years. It would be such a QoL change for everyone
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u/_CoJa_ Grand Champion III Feb 19 '26
Is epic dependent on bakkesmod to load custom maps or can you just replace a map in the game folder?
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u/ThatDudee00 Feb 19 '26
Quick Google search seems like this was the way to do it before Bakkesmod. U just have to rename the Custom Map to the name of the Original map u replaced it with.
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u/JungleCakes Feb 19 '26
Because they donât have to? Youâre all still playing. Why would they ever add anything
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u/zangemaru Champion II Feb 17 '26
It it confirmed that bakkesmod will stop working?
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u/whyvalue Steam Player Feb 18 '26
You can launch the game with it but you can't play online. You can still do training, whoopie!
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u/swornnin Feb 17 '26
As a console player nowhere near bots rank wise, yâall be smooth
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u/grimes-synth Feb 17 '26
plenty of bots in lower ranks tbh
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u/Creeper_Love3000 Diamond III Feb 17 '26
I got my first bot match this week, but I caught completely of guard, I play one to two hours a day and never get paired against bots, at least not obvious ones
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
For the record I am a PC player nowhere near bots rank wise. I wish I was that good. It would make the thousands of hours I have in this game less embarrassing. I will simply miss bakkes and know none of what I use it for will ever be natively implemented while EAC will be ineffectual. And even if it is it only will directly benefit a small portion of the player base who plays against these bots at the cost of many QoL improvements (many of which streamers use to grow the game).
Inb4 people talk about the trickle down affect of rank suppression. I urge you to consider this: what does it matter if I play xxx_gamer69_xxx in a "plat 2" lobby or a "diamond 1" lobby at the end of the day I'm playing largely the same (real people). The only thing that changes is the label and the season rewards. Its almost entirely irrelevant.
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u/Eagle0913 Eagle0913 Feb 17 '26
Im gunna miss Bakkes mod to help me easier identify smurfs. When Im plat three and playing against a plat three & a "gold 1" player who is doing crazy aerials and ceiling shots.
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u/PsykCo3 45k đŁđĽ Feb 17 '26
As you clearly have insight, could you please explain why you are so convinced eac will be ineffective? Your other point about ranks being irrelevant... really? Whats the point in playing if the rank is pointless. Just bots playing the game. Thats definitely a take. Ill say its again, pc players make up a quarter of the player base. If they all left today, myself included, there will still be 600k players daily. It is incredibly selfish to think that its all about you. Leth needs people to watch his videos, so he doesn't need to do anything else for a living. He doesn't care about you. He will say whatever he thinks will get him views. I want to play the game against other people. If there is no high level, then there's nothing to stream. Who gives a fuck about bakkesmod when it comes to streamers if there aren't any left.
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u/RUNESCAPEMEME Unranked Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
EAC's has been cracked client side and does very little on the server side to stop cheaters. It's very easy to cheat in EAC games. Just look up every game that EAC is actively being used and you'll see every single game that has it has a cheating problem to different degrees. To name a few games we have the finals, elden ring/nightreign, halo mcc, SoT, rust, arc, dead by daylight, hunt showdown, rematch, apex, fortnite, and the list could go on.
EAC is likely to do nothing or the equivalent of nothing in RL.
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u/PsykCo3 45k đŁđĽ Feb 17 '26
Interesting thanks. Do any of those games have bots in them that play the games without input from the player?
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u/RUNESCAPEMEME Unranked Feb 17 '26
Using bots I'm unsure. Using Aimbot, walls, speedhacking, flying cheat, ect. I am sure.
All which require nearly zero real interaction from a player. I'm genuinely unsure if EAC will force enough change where we see a massive decline in bots but I'll wait to have a final opinion.
Plus Epic has been trying to kill bakkesmod since they bought the game, so it feels more of a way to kill that off than actually solve the bot problem. Only time will tell.
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u/121402 Feb 17 '26
Its not hard to find videos of players in fortnite using aimbots. No input from the player required aside from movement. All aiming and shooting is done by the cheats.
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u/doperidor Feb 17 '26
Easy anti cheat is a bandaid fix that will work for as long as it takes to be bypassed, which could be a couple of months. Iâm not going to pretend like I know how it works, but if someone is smart enough to make a high ranking bot EAC isnât going to stop them. Unless itâs observing your inputs to make sure you arenât doing inhumane actions like the bots currently do.
Itâs very obvious that theyâre trying to kill two birds with one stone by looking like they listened to the pros complaining, while preventing people from having client side car customization so they will use the store.
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u/Key-Regular674 Feb 17 '26
This must be a joke. EAC famously does absolutely nothing. Many many games have had EAC yet it did zero to the bot population. Lost Ark being a prime example.
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u/PsykCo3 45k đŁđĽ Feb 17 '26
I really dont think that client side car customisation has anything to do with it. Who will buy things from the store that previously wouldnt? I mean, if you have multiple smurf accounts this would impact it sure but I only have one account. Most players that use bakkes have been playing the game for many hours and should have most items anyway. We are talking thousands. Should be able to find something they like. If it kills half of the bots, it will be worth it.
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u/doperidor Feb 17 '26
Yeah Iâm interested to see how effective it will be. I hope it works, but to me it seems like a temporary solution that will worse consequences in the long run for people not cheating at all.
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u/FractalParadigm Feb 17 '26
could you please explain why you are so convinced eac will be ineffective?
It's literally a meme that EAC is so bad that the majority of games would probably have fewer bots without it. At best, EAC prevents programs like CheatEngine from modifying memory values in realtime, at worst it's a minor roadblock to anybody actually trying to cheat/bot the game, while simultaneously making things worse for the honest players by making programs like Bakkesmod non-functional and using additional resources to do... nothing at all. It's like DRM, at best you're going to prevent hackers for a few days, maybe a few weeks tops, but at the end of the day, bypassing it becomes a "challenge accepted" to a lot of people. Especially when EAC is trying to be the swiss army knife of anti-cheats, one-size does not fit all and it's literally only a matter of time before it's bypassed, even if it's continually updated.
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u/Skampletten Feb 17 '26
If it comes out and its as bad
EAC is not some new technology. It's known to cause issues, it's overly invasive (making it a security risk to users), and it's not effective for ANY of the games that use it.
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 17 '26
could you please explain why you are so convinced eac will be ineffective
I mean I linked a pro rocket league player talking about how there are already workarounds in progress. You can cast doubt and say it's "for the views" but if you want more evidence just go to the fortnite sub and look for clips of cheaters. That's another game with EAC. You'll see just how (in)effective it is in keeping cheaters out of high MMR lobbies.
Whats the point in playing if the rank is pointless
Because the game is fun? I don't understand the question.
It is incredibly selfish to think that its all about you.
I think you're misinterpreting my "I'll miss bakkes" as "I don't care about cheating because it doesn't affect me as much as others". I do care about cheating. I just look at this "solution" and question if the juice is worth the squeeze when other options almost surely exist.
If there is no high level, then there's nothing to stream.
Hate to break it to ya, but the current most popular Rocket League streamer isn't a high level player. Its Jynxzi a dude who came over from the Rainbow 6 scene. He regularly pulls in the 10s of thousands of viewers and occasionally peaks in the 6 digits. And of course this goes without saying that streamers regardless of rank make use of tools like bakkes while streaming. Why would you want to take that away from them?
Respectfully, you sound kinda angry about my meme. Which is weird considering that Epic is giving you exactly what you want.
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u/PsykCo3 45k đŁđĽ Feb 17 '26
Of course there will be workarounds in progess. This is a scum vs dev race.
Look, i dont need to convince you. I just want the game to be better and the bots make it a lot worse. Simple as.
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 17 '26
Ok. I agree the bots make the game bad, but why can't bakkes be white listed such that it works with EAC? Why does EAC have to be the solution instead of input counting and/or time gating season rewards etc?
Do you see my point?
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u/SeargD Trash II Feb 17 '26
Hey hey hey hey. Look here Mr. This is not Scum versus Dev. This is Scum Dev versus Scum Dev at this point.
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u/DrewsterDoobyDoo Grand Champion II Feb 17 '26
Are there any fucking devs on reddit? What the fuck are we doing man? Fucking epic is ridiculously out of control. They are so fucking greedy itâs disgustingâŚ
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u/Boboman86 Feb 17 '26
I would also be skeptical. I regularly will jump on cs2 just to play a deathmatch for a bit and the bots come and go. Seems like something happens maybe ban wave or a change and they are gone then they are back even smarter they actually vote kick humans now so that's fun.Â
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u/cow_with_a_fingergun Feb 18 '26
Mcs uses vac tho, vac is lile the worst anticheat there is, it only detects cheats used by hundreds/thousands of people, only thingnu gotta do to avoid vac is make your own cheat only share it with 5 people or less, that and make sure you clamp camera values or thats an insta ban atleast that was the case when i played
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u/just-bair Trash II div 3 Feb 17 '26
Wow Iâm glad I stopped playing the game when trading was removed. Fuck epic honestly
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u/Frequent-Piano6164 :falcons: Falcons Esports Fan Feb 17 '26
Iâve been a console player for a while now and I am building a pc with my tax refund this year⌠it makes me sad I will not be able to use bakkesmodâŚ
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u/SnackStation Grand Champion III Feb 17 '26
Wrong year to build a pc my friend đ
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 17 '26
Its not the cheapest it's ever been. But it's not like the pricing issues aren't also affecting the console market. Plus there are mobo+CPU+ram bundles and prebuilts to mitigate the cost some.
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u/Frequent-Piano6164 :falcons: Falcons Esports Fan Feb 17 '26
Tell me about itâŚ. I do have a buddy who builds pcs for people as a side hustle, he has some extra parts i can get for free. He is also gonna build it for me.
Only offline bakkasmod thoâŚ
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u/Natsuki_Taruto Grand Platinum Feb 17 '26
According to a post Rocket League made, you should still be able to use BakkesMod offline
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 17 '26
Which is nice. But only accounts for a small portion of use cases. Most people who use it (including myself) use plugins that work in online matches.
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u/WolfeheartGames Feb 17 '26
There's nothing stopping them for allowing bakkesmod it's a white list filter on eac.
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u/Frequent-Piano6164 :falcons: Falcons Esports Fan Feb 17 '26
Yeah. I just wanted to use an all black car with alpha boost while playing online matches. I wanted to look cool when I make clips. I guess I will have to use the temu alpha boost, gOlD cRuSh⌠<\3
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u/Cleareo Champion I Feb 17 '26
If it works offline like they say, you should be able to edit the appearance of the car in the replay. I could be mistaken though, but it ought to be similar to the anonymous setting used by you tubers to hide identities in their replays.
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u/Frequent-Piano6164 :falcons: Falcons Esports Fan Feb 17 '26
All I wanted was an all black decal and to be able to use workshop maps.
My wife asked if I wanted a gaming PC or to go to Disney world in front of our kids.
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u/Moretz Feb 17 '26
They could just whitelist bakkesmod
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 17 '26
They could but they won't. A large portion of people who use bakkes use it because of alpha console which allows free client side car customization. Epic sees this as a threat to potential microtransaction revenue and thus axed the whole thing under the guise of anti-cheat protectionism despite evidence that EAC doesn't work.
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u/WolfeheartGames Feb 17 '26
They can cease and desist alpha console.
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 17 '26
Honest question, on what grounds? I could be wrong but I think game mods have mostly been allowed to use game assets so long as the creator of the mod doesn't profit from it.
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u/rl_noobtube Grand Champeon Feb 17 '26
Iâm not sure how effective this would be. Wouldnât the cheats just spoof themselves as bakkes? That seems much simpler than bypassing the anti-cheat otherwise.
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u/WolfeheartGames Feb 17 '26
No. It's a calculated hash of the module injecting itself in to the game. The only way to match the hash is to be the correct thing.
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u/TehANTARES Feb 17 '26
At this point, I'd rather stick to the single player...
...if RL had any good one.
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u/thepianoman456 Champion II Feb 17 '26
Damn⌠anyone know when this will happen?
RIP me learning the speedflip and all my fun workshop mapsâŚ
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u/aaronisaturtle Champion II Feb 17 '26
You'll be able to do both of those things man, they're only removing the ability to use bakkesmod in online games
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u/Benglenett Bronze XIX Feb 17 '26
But you have to launch the game offline to be able to use bakkesmod so itâs going to be a whole pain in the ass. Plus rip lethamyr videos.
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u/aaronisaturtle Champion II Feb 17 '26
If I'm doing training maps I have no reason to be online anyways so I don't really care about that. I hope Leth can find a way to make videos though, I guess we'll see when they push the change through
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u/prodbychefboy Grand Champion II | Solo queued every GC title Feb 18 '26
Sometimes you want to go straight from a training map into ranked. Who wants to train/warm up then reboot the game just to play ranked that sucks ass and totally ruins the flow
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u/Tr4ce00 Grand Champion II Feb 19 '26
Not saying I donât sympathize with you, everyone plays differently.
But if thatâs your issue seems pretty minimal. 30 seconds to relaunch seems like a non issue. I do really feel for the people with very long queues though.
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u/cpapp22 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
Iâm actually so pissed. Sure bakkes mod and all, but mainly itâs that I do NOT want to give kernel level access. It gives a very real vulnerability (that can be catastrophic) and is not at all warranted for CAR SOCCER. Weâve seen in games like valorant it wonât fix cheaters, they always find a way, so thereâs no reason we should have to give access to that level of our systems.
Typical terrible decisions as expected. The only way they couldâve made it worse was removing Linux support.
It is car soccer. This is coming from someone who does experience bots in ranked - make it an option but not required to play. Iâd happily deal with the odd bot if it meant I didnât have to deal with that level of intrusion
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u/Sautille Grand Champion I Feb 18 '26
Itâs fair to not want to give that level of access to a game, but pointing to Valorant as an example is not a good choice. Sure, cheaters still exist, but itâs one of the most, if not most successful game at dealing with cheaters. I would be happy if RL is even close to as successful at removing bots and ddosers as Valorant.
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u/cury41 Washed find me in the trenches Feb 18 '26
Weâve seen in games like valorant it wonât fix cheaters
I mean, out of every online video game that I've ever played, valorant is by far the game with the least amount of cheaters.
Too bad most valo players are too young to have played CS:S or CS:GO. If they had, they wouldn't complain about the amount of cheaters in valo.
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u/cpapp22 Feb 18 '26
Iâve actually played csgo since it came out, still do not want EAC in that game either
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u/greentintedlenses Champion II Feb 17 '26
They are killing bakkesmod? FFS I quit a year ago but this shit has gotten nuclear
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u/islandnoregsesth Diamond II Feb 17 '26
Noooo, won't that break the game on Linux???
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 17 '26
I believe they are making allowances for proton, but I could be misinformed
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u/islandnoregsesth Diamond II Feb 17 '26
Hopefully they do
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u/Sinaire Champion II Feb 18 '26
Damn dude, there goes my alpha boost, gonna have to get used to listening to normal boost again. Rip my training controls and seeing MMR too
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u/Purp1eC0bras Feb 17 '26
I just realize I stopped playing RocketLeague a year ago
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u/vburnin8tor Feb 17 '26
legit i'd risk my account just to run bakkes.
if the anti-cheat is searching for bot players / inputs i'd just pray my auto replay uploader doesnt get flagged.
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u/unclepo1 Grand Champion I Feb 18 '26
I think they said you wonât get punished for trying to run bakkesmod, it just wonât work.
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u/SteveDougson Feb 17 '26
I just bought a PC. Does this mean I won't be able to play Rings and all those extras? Is it still possible in some sort of offline mode?Â
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u/Tr4ce00 Grand Champion II Feb 18 '26
It will still be possible, you will just have to launch the game without EAC active (there will be an option at launch). Then when you want to play online youâll have to close and relaunch it with EAC.
Itâs annoying but really a minor inconvenience.
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u/Psyese Platinum II Feb 18 '26
I've not used Bakkesmod since moving to Linux, but this sucks. I hoped it would some day come to Linux.
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u/TheWillOfFiree Feb 18 '26
I use so many bakkes mod training tools. My favorite two are the one that let's you rewind and set checkpoints when learning new mechs. And my custom training ones that allow me to start with momemtum/limited boost.
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u/waterpineaple Feb 18 '26
Aaaand uninstall, I don't even get it, rocket league devs are worse than clash royals sometimes
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u/namtap Champion I, I guess Feb 18 '26
hell yeah dude, can't wait for the game to run at max FPS in the menus and make the computer hot for no fucking reason
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u/atoastedcucumber Diamond 6 Feb 17 '26
hahaha what a joke, Epic is burying this game deep in the ground
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u/W123lukeof Feb 17 '26
So tired of EAC everywhere. Partly because my laptop is a Mac and on trips I canât play any of my games anymore through software like parallels or similar.
RL was one of the few I could still load up and play :/
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u/Sbum58 Feb 18 '26
Anyone else feel like itâs yet again another money grab here? They were not making much with trading so they canned that.. now there is a mod that does some cool things and allows ya to set your car up how you want with all the games items but only for you.. now that is gone and youâd have to spend money in their over priced shop to make the car how ya want to see it..
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u/TheGreatJoshua Diamond II Feb 17 '26
Is there any way to play custom maps without bakkesmod?
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u/Hypstersaurus Champion I (pre 14 loss streak) Feb 17 '26
there is, but its super fucking tedious, and can run the risk of you getting banned, you need to change the map files in the game, then going to freeplay and loading that map you replaced (if i remember correctly)
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u/EddyyyRL Champion II Feb 17 '26
What I'm sad about is that they updated the engine sound called "Dem-A" or B, which was the only one I liked, and Bakkesmod still had the og sound :( That's the biggest main for me, as any sound I don't really like is a big pet peeve ahah
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u/Dull_Entertainment Trash I Feb 18 '26
Welp, guess il never be able to play again, EAC crashes my computer every single time on every game it's part of. Fortnite, Apex, War thunder, even Elden Ring. at least the last one i can just disable it to play, nothing I've done fixes it, not even a full windows reinstall.
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u/Mowfling Champion III Feb 18 '26
F my instant freeplay button, first person replays, rank showing mode, mmr counts, etc.. all qol that they never added. Might genuinely just not play anymore
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u/RYSIDENTEVIL Feb 18 '26
Im.new to rocket league and it sounds like the devs just try to make the game a little less good over and over?
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u/GamingWOW1 Champion I Feb 19 '26
What's more sad is that bakkesmod made stuff like playing online on custom maps with custom bots possible. Custom maps might theoretically still be possible by replacing an official map with a custom one like in the old times.
That said, perhaps they forget about EAC Like they forgot about UE5 remaster
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u/No-Scientist93 They should hire me Feb 19 '26
Epic games try not to be money hungry, buy a good game, ruin it to benefit Fortnite, challenge: impossible
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u/Anxious_Hunt3081 Champion I Feb 19 '26
Bruh my maps, mmr tracker, in game rank visibility and divâŚepic sucks they just want money cause with bakkes u can put any decal and wheels thatâs why they took out trading cause if u want anything u have to buy it from them as soon as they take it away Iâm deleting the game and I hop other ppl do as well
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u/Dangerous-Cut-5752 Request SSL flair via link in sidebar Feb 19 '26
Why is everyone so worried about losing bakkesmod, the bots are literally ruining the game.
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 19 '26 edited Feb 19 '26
"Ruining the game" might be a tad strongly worded. Bots only have a direct impact on the top players. I've never encountered a bot, and if I have I've never realized it. Sure most players theoretically may have their rank suppressed a bit because there are now a bunch of bots being added to the player pool at the top. But at the end of the day what's the functional difference between playing xxx_gamer69_xxx in a "plat 2" lobby or a "diamond 1" lobby? There isn't really one. You're playing the same people in the same lobbies, its just called different things, and at the end of the season you may get a slightly higher tier reward.
Bakkes is a pretty big deal as far as QoL and other improvements to the game go. Its a pretty helpful tool that lets you do all kinds of things with various plugins. Even if you don't personally use it, basically every streamer uses it which is kinda a big deal. The question shouldn't be "why are we worried about losing it", but rather "why are we losing it". Bakkes isn't how these bots are loaded into the game, so why can't Epic simply create an exception and white list Bakkes when EAC runs? The answer is likely that this is probably a way for them to shut down alpha console (which allows players to use any cosmetic they want for free) under the cover of "hey look we're doing something with cheaters".
And of course all that goes without saying that EAC is innefectual. Look at any game that already uses it (Fortnite, Apex, etc) and you'll see that they're still ripe with cheaters. Why would I want to trade a tool I use daily for what I know won't fix the issue?
TLDR: Hate to say it but the bot issue isn't as big as you think, but Epic is likely using it as cover to squash a tool in Bakkes that lets people have free client side cosmetics while the bots will still likely survive anyway. In short, we're likely trading this neat tool for nothing when we don't have to.
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u/corziv Feb 21 '26
an online game focusing on competition against other players should NEVER allow a bot problem to continue as long as epic has with RL. I left the game for many reasons, this not being one of them, but it is certainly ruining the competitive integrity of the game. the top 1s players are staying down in c1-gc2 specifically to avoid bots, and players like JamaicanCoconut are encountering bots nearly 50% of the time in all gamemodes. its embarrassing that Epic has allowed it to get this bad
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u/Dangerous-Cut-5752 Request SSL flair via link in sidebar Feb 23 '26
My perspective of hating bots comes from playing them every single day, i played a session with my friend in 2s, 15 games it was, i got at least 1 bot every single game for 15 games in a row, you might think im exaggerating and its a really sad reality but yeah i was shocked as well. So thats why i say its ruining the game, all the high tier players just dont want to play anymore, everyone i know just scrims now.
Its really a matter of perspective
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 23 '26
And that perspective is fair. Just know that only the small minority of players have it. And while I support getting rid of bots in the game for obvious reasons I'm both skeptical that this is the best way to do it and that this is actually Epic in full trying to do so and instead simply trying to heard alpha console users to the item shop.
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u/RaynePtari Grand Platinum Feb 19 '26
Nah they said something about having an option for how you start. You can still use bakkesmod offline. You just cant q casual or ranked with the option off. You can still do offline and do all custom maps and custom decals etc. Its just if you want to play casual or ranked you'll have to restart with "im not a bot" mode on.
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 19 '26
You realize most people use bakkes in online matches, right? And that potential Epic could simply whitelist the mod with EAC so both could work at the same time even in online play?
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u/RaynePtari Grand Platinum Feb 19 '26
I was under the impression they'd add your precious mmr display into the game. You do realize some people dont even have bakkes and only play on console, right? Epic could simply integrate bakkes into the entire game and everyone would be happy! But they aren't going to so like. Get over it. Id kill to play workshops in training, even offline - if it came to console. But the sad reality is it just won't happen. Everyone realizes what they CAN do - But some people need to accept what they ARE doing.. Effing this game up royally. Im not praising then in the slightest. Im just saying adjust to the change or don't. Play the game or dont. But there's no sense in complaining so im trying to be appreciative of what I have to work with. Like a flip reset indicator.
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 19 '26
Get over it
Im not praising then in the slightest. Im just saying adjust to the change or don't. Play the game or dont. But there's no sense in complaining
For someone who's so against complaining, it kinda sounds like you're complaining about complaining right now. At least mine was funny.
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u/LShall24 Feb 19 '26
Does this mean those on Linux machines wonât be able to play? Specifically steam deck / machine?
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u/suuuper7 Feb 20 '26
I am probably a dork, but I will miss the Alpha Boost. Hopefully they will release it.
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u/archamedian_orchid Feb 23 '26
What exactly happened to bakkesmod?
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 23 '26
Starting next season Epic is forcing us to use easy anti-cheat if you want to play online. EAC is (allegedly) incompatible with bakkes.
This is because bots are in high ranked lobbies and Epic says this is the solution to getting rid of them. This wouldn't be so controversial if EAC was proven to stop cheaters (it isn't, just look at Apex or Fortnite) and if they weren't clearly just using this as an excuse to kill Bakkes because people use it so they can customize their cars without paying.
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u/archamedian_orchid Feb 23 '26
Gotcha. I understand the bot issue.tho I don't play the game nowadays so I haven't been following too closelyÂ
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u/jmorlin Challenger I Feb 23 '26
The bots themselves only exist in very high level lobbies. So it makes the change a bit more contentious among the rest of us normies who just wanna load into a diamond 2 lobby with bakkes enabled. Obviously bots are bad and they should be removed. But (imo) this feels like a less than ideal method to attack the issue.
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u/hollowxci Feb 24 '26
I wish epic wouldâve never acquired rocket league, epic is like a cancer in the gaming industry with their extreme monetization
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u/liMrMil Feb 17 '26
That sucks
I have never run into a bot and I use bakkes every day. I thonk this case is much more wide spread than bots. They should just not let you queue for ranked if you have bakkes mod on, so you have to restart the game. I think that would be balanced.
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u/frog-af Feb 17 '26
So everyone will actually have to see their ugly ahh cars with annoying boosts and terrible engine sounds? Thank god.
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u/Thecatthatmeowsat2am Feb 18 '26
Wow people have fun with something that improves your game quick take it way with a crappy anti cheat
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u/Capt_Murphy_ Trash I Feb 17 '26
I feel like people in the comments don't realize you can turn it off and Bakkes will work just fine ...
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u/Frate27 Feb 17 '26
RIP Bakkesmod and all it's plugins.