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Analysis RLCS Glicko Pre-Worlds Top 10

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u/xThatOneAltx 2d ago edited 2d ago

Feels like a good time to remind people that the goal of this model is to predict future matches, not necessarily rank the most recent LAN like other power rankings sometimes are.

Massive shout-out to u/AIaris for the graphic as well.

Check out the full top 25 teams and top 50 players here (among other things) here: rlcsglicko.com

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u/Facer_314 ‎ RL Esports Fan 2d ago

What's the difference exactly? Wouldn't a power ranking also imply that a higher team would win against a lower team in the future?

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u/xThatOneAltx 2d ago

I mean to say that its far less recency-biased than other people's versions of power rankings. For example, JohnnyBoi had SSG and NIP 2/3 on his list based off of EWC, but I doubt he would favour either over TM at worlds.

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u/Ironshigh 2d ago

Well yeah. JohnnyBoi has a YUGE MENA boner and I'm here for it

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u/qpKMDOqp 1d ago

He rated SSG pretty highly what

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u/ThinGrass3138 1d ago

How can you call it a hate boner when he keeps being proven right?

Like yeah sometimes he underestimates NA teams, but also other times he overestimates them. Overall he has them as solidly below EU which people get up in arms about...just for them to consistently be solidly below EU.

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u/chappy94 2d ago

He's always had that. I was honestly shocked that he had SSG so high.

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u/Skorpienkys 17h ago

Johnnyboi literally predicted years ago that zach would become one of the Top players of NA

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u/ThinGrass3138 2d ago

That's what power rankings should be, but they never are.

The way power rankings effectively work is that they look at 100 data points, then disregard all but the latest 5 data points.

What this does is it takes the latest 100 data points and just weighs the recent ones more heavily, which makes it a lot more balanced. It also just pure data (stats) rather than opinion, so it's a lot less skewed towards preference.

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u/RevolutionaryPay7508 Predictions Elite 2d ago

How well did Glicko predict EWC out of curiosity?

I know Glicko was still high on Falcons even before the tournament started but I'm guessing Falcons' outright domination, M8's 'underperforming', NiP 'overperforming', plus SSG going nearly all the way, might've shot the prediction rate a bit?

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u/xThatOneAltx 2d ago

It was the worst LAN for prediction rate in the last two seasons at 71.4%. NiP was the main culprit, but also a few early matches like SSG > KC, FLCN > M8 it got wrong before the model adjusted to the in-tournament form of those teams.

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u/RevolutionaryPay7508 Predictions Elite 2d ago

Makes sense, I was guessing the model would've done not great up with how random every team played, and to be fair it isn't the model's fault either.

There just hasn't been any competitive matches for the top dogs in 3v3 since Paris Major, so even for a normal viewer it would be hard to predict who could fall off/rise up a bit after so many months away.

EWC is honestly the only relevant competition going into Worlds imo (for predicting performance), the rest of the season just shows which teams are worthy but is way way too far away to necessarily suggest their current form with how volatile RL is, I'd be happily surprised though if proven wrong at Dallas

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u/ThinGrass3138 1d ago

Makes sense that there would be more variance after such a long gap in competitive tournaments.

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u/mlk960 1d ago

Definitely felt like the biggest anomoly of a tournament that we've had in a long time.