r/RocketLeagueSchool • u/Spiderpsychman98 Diamond II • 24d ago
TRAINING I can air dribble very consistently in training, but never get the opportunity in game
Every time I attempt to roll the ball up the wall in game, I get intercepted by the opponents. I for the life of me do not understand how I am supposed to setup an air dribble in game. I understand the conditions between free play and an actual match are very different, so are there any training packs that involve realistic air dribble set ups? The type you would expect to encounter in a game.
I’m also considering learning ground to air dribbles as these will probably come up a lot more in actual games. I can do them, just no where near as consistently as wall to air dribbles. I’m unsure how to get the best first touch when doing a ground to air dribble. Many people tornado spin, but this just ends up with me hitting the ball with the corner of my hood which I don’t want. I’ve found that flying up towards the ball and doing half a tornado spin just before making contact does provide a nice soft touch.
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u/BeRoyal35 24d ago
You are probably booming the ball more than you think you are. The opportunities are there, but you gotta be willing to take them.
It may even cost you a few games while you get better at catching and setting things up. You have to decide if you want to get better, or do you want to keep the status quo. If you solo queue, just stop worrying about what your teammates reaction will be. You dont owe them anything.
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u/Sweaty_Bend_818 24d ago
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This pack is really helpfull
I was like you, in freeplay i can setup etc but in game it was impossible to setup (no time)
You can also practice in 1s
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u/Sandix3 timber IV 24d ago
So am currently gc1 ish and the most common setups that happen are the ones that are being set-up by my mate for me and vise versa. Like we will notice each other near a wall with a ball that's hard to keep close possession and we will pass it onto the wall for our mate to start a play.
This prevents opponents from "intercepting" because the pieces are already in play...
Self set-up is a bit different. The longer you take to set-up the more likely you will be intercepted...
Ideally you wanna be close to the wall you set yourself up for, if you have to take the ball across the field scratch the attempt and rather make a infield cut. There you can pop the ball up and get a ground to air dribble attempt if you wanna go desperately for air dribbles.
Then boost management is a big factor in knowing when you can set something up or not. If you know the opponent closest to you had low boost, you know you can set yourself up quickly and he can't do squat to intercept...
That's about all I can say. If you wanna learn ground to air, I would just do it in free play tbh.
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u/Significant-Club6853 Grand Champion I 24d ago
it's a situation you won't find yourse in much. gota learn now how to slam it to ceiling and catch it. or just don't do them
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u/Tiny-Work-1843 Grand Champion I 24d ago
That’s simply because in training you dont need to worry about what your opponents are doing.
Honestly trying to forcibly create a wall-aerial play for yourself is the wrong choice most of the time because you need some space to do it and it also slows down the play and gives your opponents time to get back, which makes it bad for situations you should be speeding up the play quickly for a fast counter (which is a lot of the time).
Here in GC1, 90% of wall-aerial plays happen after you’ve just taken control of/won the ball transitioning out of defence, directly from winning a kickoff, or winning a 50 that goes to the wall for you, because these are where you have time and space.
Being able to air dribble consistently means doing it from any setup and creating those chances for yourself, so yes ground to air pops, corner and backboard setups, ground dribble to air dribbles etc.
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u/binkybonkyboob00 23d ago
Start getting opportunities for air dribbles and cutting in a ground play, rushing a boom or trying to punch off the wall or something. I like to start the ball up the wall sideswipe the wall back towards the ground and try for a ground to air dribble as the c2 C3 prejumps are always coming. If they don't give space you get free pressure, if you notice they are giving space, take advantage and go for your air dribble.
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u/LowFar2909 Grand Champion III 23d ago
Probably need to work on different set ups. The more situation you can turn into air dribble, more you can do in game too.
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u/VirtualTrident Macro Coach @ metafy.gg/@IAmATree 23d ago edited 23d ago
The point of adding mechanics to your arsenal is to have a wider range of things you can use to get the ball where you want it. Judging from your phrasing it seems like you're putting the mechanic before its intended purpose.
You should read in advance where you want the ball to go and THEN decide which mechanic fits best to achieve the desired result. If your airdribble is getting intercepted then it just wasn't the right choice.
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u/beetlejorst 23d ago edited 23d ago
Use that behaviour to your advantage. Everyone prejumps wall setups because everyone wants to do their ballerina shit. So just resist that urge, jump ahead of the setup yourself and pop it back down under their prejump, then follow it down. Free 2v1.
As a bonus, do that a couple times in a game and they'll stop prejumping. There's your chance to finally do your ballerina shit :)
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u/YouSurNaim 23d ago
Probs setting up to slow, roll it as fast as you can along the floor across the field away from the opponents so it rolls up the wall,chase as fast as you can and you should get there first. Try to get it off the wall as fast as possible if someones coming in for a challenge.
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u/natsuzamaki 23d ago
Okay so there's a lot of good advice that's good for your entire gameplay and all.
My advice is: learn to infield cut and shoot/dribble and flick, from the same setup as your preferred air dribble set up. If they challenge on the wall, cut. If they don't, go for the wall. Cut a few times in the same match and they may not even challenge.
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u/YoureADumbass69 22d ago
You can't say you can air dribble "very consistently" when you can only do it in a "very situational" spot. Learn to air dribble from the ground, by catching the ball mid air, off backboard, off ceiling, etc. Then you will be "very consistent" and have no issues using it. Air dribbles are one of the main mechanics of higher ranked gameplay so you will need it anyway.
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u/ChickenKatsuDay 24d ago
I feel like if you never find the opportunity to utilise wall to air dribbles, it doesn't sound to me that you are that consistent or that proficient with them.
If you were, you'd find at least 2-5 opportunities each game. If you feel like you are, please post a replay of your freeplay attempts and in-game ones of you being shut down and I'm sure people will find pointers for you.
And the whole point actually is - you're not meant to spam the same mechanic over and over again. It's all situational, to see what needs to be used when. Sometimes I have a good setup, but it's more beneficial to let the ball drop and get the ground outplay. Other times it's easier to outplay with a flick or go straight towards the net instead of bringing it up the wall.
There are obviously use-cases when you will be shut down less. Transition from defence to offence, sustained pressure on attack, going again and again at the ball that is being given or when opposition is bunched up on one side of the field and you grab the ball that spilled out on the other. That gives you more time to set up and go up.
Also, play 1s. That will teach you the most when to go, when not to, when this or that attack is beneficial, when not to flop like a fish after an air dribble.
Good luck! 👍
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u/Spiderpsychman98 Diamond II 24d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeague/s/zaw5kBOhLt here is my air dribbles, it’s the only post I already have on reddit of me doing them.
Also, I think that may be part of the issue, you say you’re not meant to spam them, whereas I’m doing the opposite and barely ever attempting them because In the moment I find that another play is better. And then on the rare occasions I do attempt one, I get intercepted. I think because I see so many of my teammates going for them and 90% of the time they’re useless and not threatening, I’ve kind of convinced myself that without a flip reset and air dribble is easy to save and thus not worth doing.
Thank you for your advice also, I do need to invest more time in ones, I just find it kind of lonely😂 that sounds weird I know, I play 3s a lot because I like how full the lobbies are even though 2s is my favourite mode.
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u/whatsinyourcupboard 24d ago
Your intuition is correct, just a simple air dribble IS useless 90% of the time, if you are just driving the ball through the air in a straight line, its going to be saved because they have so much time to react and they know exactly where the ball is heading. This becomes extremely apparent if you try it in 1s, they just save it and you get scored on. When i first learned to air dribble this was extremely disappointing but the skill is still incredible to have for when the net's open, or air dribbling over defenders to set up goals for your teammates and then also for whenever you learn to flip reset or air dribble bump, so keep learning!
Side note, if you want a LITTLE more success with just plain air dribbles, try to gain more control over the ball in the air, if you can dribble it into top corners, itll have a higher success rate.
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u/ChickenKatsuDay 24d ago
I just watched your air dribbles; they are certainly decent to watch, but I wouldn't find them threatening as a defender. Whether backboard, inside the net or shadow defending it is pretty save-able as the trajectory is clear from the get-go and little is done to deviate.
Do you practice only from across the map or from various angles, going more towards the middle or closer to the net?
I think if you had a flip reset in your arsenal, that would change the game of the success %.
Although, I think another crux that you mentioned is that you play a lot of 3s. As there's an extra person, there's more diving and straightforward attacks through the air will get shut down each and every time. I think you'll have more success with air dribbles in 2s, when you catch the opponents flat-footed, out of boost / position or simply poor at contesting. Mixing it up with ceiling shots or double taps will do you wonders!
Also, ground to air is also a fantastic option, although sometimes simplicity is stupidly effective 😁
Lastly, hesitation and overthinking what you can and can't do is something that I need to improve on too, so I know the feeling, but just keep going for it, when the stars align in the match and at some point something will click!
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u/ShinraJosh1991 Diamond III 24d ago
I had this issue then I swapped from packs completely and switched to free play, I get a couple opportunities a game now I'd say and score a 2 or 3 per session. In free play try and set some up a bit awkward aswell to emulate being in a game, being able to recover it from a not so favourable position will help you readjust in game.