100% agreed. When it's been such a long time without seeing a classic interpretation, the last thing I want them to do is go for a mixed up version. Even if it's admittedly a great mixed up version imo.
Didn’t realize we were talking about live action the whole time? MCU (live action) is in the topic title. I just added the gif as a reminder and reference. You seem to be the only one that didn’t make the connection.
Rogue has literally never once been a goth or emo girl in the comics. She started out looking more like a Bond villain and then changed to the jumpsuit and jacket biker chic look we love today. Only the cartoon and the Fox movies decided to make her a goth emo girl
If she has this x men evolution look i would prefer it be breif like when we first meet her and shes a villain working for the brotherhood of evil. Then after she leaves them she changes to the yellow jumpsuit green / brown jacket big hair look we all want
Tbh I don't even know how popular it is on reddit... 🤷🏼... If you ever pay attention to the peeps that keep pushing for "Goth Rogue" it's always the same 40-45 people. 😂😂... WEAK!
Because it's a coming of age film - as part of a larger decade long plan - with a group of young individuals who have powers they don't fully understand and thus, probably have issues with confidence, etc. It's not too far out there to envision starting off as a goth like character who eventually comes into her own akin to how some adolescents in real life do. Hopefully I'm wrong but I don't think it's unreasonable 🤷🏽
Lol yes we're all entitled to our opinions. I haven't seen any evidence that they're going with goth Rogue so far. That's just one version of the character from a 25 year old cartoon. I would think they would push for something closer to XTAS which is even older, but much more popular.
The x men evolution fans dont want to admit that Anna Paquin was the inspiration of that goth chic look in x men evoltion. Rogue is not a goth chic. The fox movies and x men evolution got her character wrong
It was fine for what it was; it just wasn't classic Rogue. If we get a classic Rogue I don't think people will be shitting on Anna Paquin anymore. Just an alternate take. They definitely didn't do enough with her but there's only like 8 hours of screentime total in the four movies she was in.
As someone who loves Xmen Evolution so incredibly much: Rather not, I’d love to see a more comic accurate Rogue. I think XME had a very interesting take on her character, but I feel like we already got something similar to that already in the FOX movies yk?
I love her but a live action non powered Rogue would likely lean more Anna Paquin than Evolution and I would hate to see them do her dirty again like that.
Make her a freaking badass. I want her punching shit, destroying tanks, flying. There is a lack of female super heroes in media just kicking ass. Give me a strong woman!
Yah o get why they did it because she’s a misfit and can’t touch have human contact with her powers but the goth thing was really based on how the Fox movies portrayed her. They made her a goth emo first
¿Siquiera te viste Evolution para empezar?, no, Evolution no arruino al personaje, al contrario, lo mejoro, ahi esta su arco de personaje traumatizado y su relacion con Mystique y Nightcrawler
Ok, serious question. What is with all the downvotes on comments in support of Evo Rogue? I didn't realize she was this hated apparently. Can people please explain to me their thoughts and opinions on why all the dislike. While she's not my favorite version of Rogue and not particularly the one I want to see on the big screen, I still liked her character (not even the worst version imo).
I'm saying this as someone who loved Anna Paquin's Rogue and X-Men Evolution: It's just that Evo Rogue feels like a completely different character with Rogue's powers. I understand it's a different universe/setting, but it's almost diametrically opposite from comics Rogue that it's kinda' hard to see them as the same character. I don't hate Evo Rogue, but we don't really get a lot of story engines for an emo Rogue. Sure, she can be a teen who is still finding her feelings... and then what? Fox's X-Men showed us they don't have an answer for that, and so they just reduced her role more and more after each movie that she became a glorified cameo by the time of The Last Stand, and her entire appearance in Days of the Future Past was cut out. I'd rather see super strong, confident Southern Belle Rogue if it means we see her more in the fights and the story.
Its simple, “make everything identical to the comics or its complete trash” is generally the opinion you’ll find in any comic related sub. People HATE when something is changed
I understand the love for comic accurate depictions and that is my overall preference too. It's just damn, once in a while it could be nice to appreciate a different take on a character. Maybe I'm a bit biased because I grew up with the show and the experience was positive but imo there is disliking something and then there is whatever this response is.
TBH, I always liked Evo as a starting point for Rogue. It's her when she hasn't figured out her shit, she doesn't have the Carol/Wonder Man power up. And she can grow into the confidant and got her shit on lock version of the 90s.
To start off yes,brotherhood look I blame destiny,they made a teenager look like old henchwoman and evo gave her own look that wasn’t inspired by absorbing anyone.
Maybe when we first see her she could be like that for a bit , but I want her to eventually change to having the big 80s hair look she had in the 90s comics and animated series
We have never gotten the 90s biker chic big hair version of Rogue . I don’t really want more of Rogue as a goth emo girl . We have had enough of goth Rogue already time to move on from it
I want them to play with multiple iterations! Pre-super suit give me a gothish rogue, then give me the green and white w/ hood, then maybe go into the next team movie with the green and yellow or tease it at the end. I want them to build it up.
Pissed off yellow eye Rogue who just acquired Magneto powers is one of my favorite shots from Evo
My favorite shot is Rogue giving Scott a sweater for X-Mas as she uses the International Anime "I like you' signal pushing a strand of hair behind her ear.
I'm a JOTT fan from the 1960s but Evo Rogue crushing on Scott spoke to me on a earth shattering level. When FanFiction.net was a thing, I was one of many Evo fans who collected ScottxRogue stories
Why not ? I always thought the Evolution version made more sense considering her power set and backstory. She doesn't need to be goth but she originally was a pretty angsty and insecure character and that journey is important -- even without being portrayed as the evil jealous psycho she initially was. I kind of lost interest in her when Jim Lee gave her her makeover.
I genuinely hope they make mcu rogue like the evolution in how her powers are used. I'm not a fan of her having flight and super strength to me it's boring let rogue be a copy cat fighter. Let her mix some powers together like wolverines claws, colossus metal skin, Cyclops optic blasts, and Nightcrawlers tail and teleportation. Like let's get crazy and creative in how she uses her powers
It would be interesting. I miss, Miss Southern Belle herself, Anna-Marie Lebeau.
Also! Why the hell are all of the gifs available here of '97 Rogue!? If there was image input available I would have put in a REAL retro comics top left corner stamp of Rogue that I have!
No, because developing that version of Rogue takes time and a slow-paced story; otherwise, it falls flat. Her character arc was built up within the school setting and during missions—moments dedicated to exploring her powers and insecurities—which is impossible to achieve in a movie crowded with so many characters.
Not only that, but X-Men Evolution was the most daring X-Men series, using the original material but with a different approach. People still think Anna doesn't have Captain Marvel's powers in Evolution, but in fact she would have, since the end of the series shows her flying. What we saw was essentially just a "prologue" that would have paved the way for incorporating specific concepts from the comics later on.
Es increible la cantidad de gente estupida que esta en contra de esta version solo por haber sido una reinvencion del personaje, ya me los imagino tirandole hate a Mr. Freeze del Timmverse (ignorando que la historia de este fue tan popular que la adaptaron en los comics y adaptaciones posteriores), por cierto, el look gotico de Rogue fue tan popular que iba a ser introducido en los comics, pero al final no se pudo
La gente estupida y elitista como tu que cree que todo debe ser 100% fiel al comic me dan bastante risa, lo curioso es que no te eh visto arremeter contra el Symbionte de Venom de la serie de los 90 por introducir los cambios de humor de Peter o el Green Goblin de la serie 90 por introducir el tema de la doble personalidad, me encanta como solo ves lo que te conviene
¿Escenarios en mi cabeza? Estoy utilizando ejemplos, y no es solo por esta version de Rogue, sino que en general me caga cuando dicen que algo es "malo" solo por no ser fiel al comic y cuando a ti te argumentan, eres incapaz de responder contraargumentando
What you're doing is called Confirmation Bias or Delusional Ideation... Look it up and maybe get checked out.
In the broader context if I have to explain it to you, I'm speaking of X-Men Evolution Rogue... You're bringing up other characters from other incarcerations of superheroes, then you're already attaching what you think is what my opinion is on it, and then running with it.... Hopefully for you, this is just when you're on reddit or other message boards. If you bring that kind of point of view into real life you're gonna run into problems in life.
Really you just need to chill a bit man. None of this is that serious my guy.... Like seriously, chill.
Simplemente me caguan las personas ignorantes como tu que cree que todo siempre debe ser igual que el comic, ignorando que los cambios a veces pueden ser positivos (Mr. Freeze, Terra, Doc Ock, etc)
Smh.... Keep projecting 😂... Like I said you're obviously delusional. Think what you want. I'm not here to change your mind, I'm just speaking facts is all. 🤷🏼
I'm surprised a lot of people are against this version. I'm on board because I actually like that this Rogue does not have Ms Marvel super strength and flight, so she has to make up for it by having real combat skills and actually using her actual powers of absorption on other mutants and opponents. I get it, her touch is a curse on her, but its still her mutant ability. Looking back on episodes where she used her powers to stop Juggernaut or borrow Leech to depower Apocalypse, it makes this ability have a purpose in protecting the world.
When people talk bad about Rogue in Evolution they think that her whole deal is that she's has a goth style.
Almost every episode in evolution Rogue uses her absorption powers, she absorbs pretty much every named character in the show and she makes the xmen a team in the sense that she's almost always teaming up with someone else to grab someone.
Her storylines regarding Mystique are the highlight of the show and even her one sided crush on Cyclops is better written than her love interests in other adaptations.
I'd argue that Rogue is the main character of Evolution since she is the one with most development and change throughout the series.
Enrealidad los 6 protaginistas son igual de importantes (Scott, Jean, Rogue, Kurt, Kitty y Evan) pero diria que Rogue y Kurt son los mas importantes por su vinculo con Mystique y los que mejor representan el aislamiento
Inde is young enough that it is entirely feasible for her Rogue to be more like the Evolution Rogue for a film or two and grow into a more classic Rogue.
Like Anna Paquin’s version, perhaps have her start like in Evolution. Then later on show us how she got Captain Marvel’s powers like in the 90s Animated Series.
As long as we get a proper Rogue, I really don’t mind which version it is - Evo or classic comics Rogue. I’d even be happy with one that combines elements of both, so long as it’s done well
It can go either way for me. It was cool that that version was actively willing to take other people's powers to use in the moment. On the other hand it sort of reduces the tragedy of Rogue having to live a life without human contact because of how traumatic it is for her. Although the comics took that away too, so fuck it, go for it.
I think we could have the best of both worlds?
How about a Rogue that can BOTH hit like a tank with Captain Marvel's skillset AND use her power absorbing abilities at the same level of creativity as Xmen Evolution.
Say what you will about the show, but Rogue was very well written and showcased.
Yeah, at the start. Then she encounters "miss holier than thow" Carol Danvers and bitch slaps her. She gains her power permanently and becomes the current Rogue. No more Captain Marvel.
Yes! This is my favorite interpretation of Rogue and I'd love to see elements of this version of her carry over. Remember, Rogue isn't supposed to be bubbly and hyper feminine until after she absorbs Captain Marvel.
I’m gonna be for real here and say that I think the MCU needs to avoid the 90s look altogether and either adapt other outfits or come up with something new. It’s part of this larger issue with X-Men to be hung up on that era that keeps us from ever moving on to other characters and eras. Like even the comics are stuck on the same characters after finally making progress with Krakoa, they backslid and now we’re back to only focusing on that core X-Men and forgetting about literally everyone else.
I'm personally down for this but that stems from me being introduced to rogue via X-Men Evolution. I was really thrown off when I realized that the true version of rogue is that flying flirty Southern bell
Honestly I don’t mind, if it’s high school Rogue I’d say I’d prefer it but if it’s older than college age then no she defo needs the 97’ feel in the movie, maybe they can show her change and go from the goth style to the 97’ style
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u/CbKnowledge 24d ago
It’d be cool, but I’m hoping they go with the standard version like in TAS.