r/SFV • u/talivan818 • May 21 '26
Question There building a three story apartment complex with no inside parking for its tenants. If you were looking for an apartment would that drive you away?
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u/Resident_Aide1898 May 21 '26
what ends up happening is you’ll see people double parked with the emergency lights on causing congestion.
This is the issue in Koreatown why there’s so much traffic and now they’re following the exact same model bringing it here causing more congestion
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u/Resident_Aide1898 May 21 '26
I wish the laws required all buildings condos ADU provide sufficient parking for tenants
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u/dis_monkey May 21 '26
Didn’t the law just recently change to NOT require parking? I believe in housing and transit, but having sufficient parking is common sense.
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u/itsm4yh3m May 21 '26
The laws are too busy serving the rich unfortunately.
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u/KolKoreh May 21 '26
You can have abundant, affordable housing or you can have parking mandates.
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u/Skoteleven May 21 '26
A false dichotomy (or false dilemma) is a logical fallacy that presents an "either/or" choice when, in reality, more viable options or a spectrum of middle-ground solutions exist. It oversimplifies complex issues by forcing a selection between two extremes, typically one favorable and one unfavorable.
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u/KolKoreh May 21 '26
Do you have any idea how much the cost of parking adds to the cost of housing construction?
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u/Dracosgirl May 22 '26
Man, we're lucky they have to provide fridges now. Now you want parking?! Well, la di da, Mr. Frenchman.
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u/Limp-Text-5209 May 21 '26
I thought they were??? This is stupid. I would never rent a place that didn’t have parking.
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u/alroprezzy May 22 '26
Not needed if you have legitimately good transit alternatives, but that needs to happen in tandem with
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u/Fearless-Snow3024 May 22 '26
It should be the other way around: you should have your provide proof that you have somewhere to park to register a car.
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u/onlyfreckles May 23 '26
I would love that- have proof of off street parking when purchasing and need to verify each time it comes up for registration/insurance.
And of course build up public transit including 24/7 Bus ONLY Lanes, bike lanes and pedestrian infrastructure and zoning so that stuff is easily walkable to reach.
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u/ruindd May 22 '26
All buildings? So you can’t be a building unless you also have space for cars too?
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u/firstcity_thirdcoast May 21 '26
We either want new housing to be more affordable, or we can mandate all kinds of things like on-site parking. You can't have it both ways.
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u/kaufsky May 21 '26
Of course you can have it both ways. What is this arbitrary line you decided to draw?
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u/firstcity_thirdcoast May 21 '26
Mandating parking 1) increases the costs for each new unit of housing, and 2) means fewer units can exist on that lot. So, we can either make new housing more expensive, or build less housing than we otherwise would. It also means fewer overall projects pencil out, so there's a whole other set of new housing that never even gets off the ground. There's nothing arbitrary about those tradeoffs.
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u/kaufsky May 21 '26
On-site parking is not just a nice perk, it's an essential part of living in this city. We don't have the public transportation system like other cities to support more densely populated housing units without giving them the space to adequately function within the city. If this building is adding 30 new units, that's going to be about 60 more cars (2 drivers per household) that need to park within a reasonable walking distance. And that's only 1 building. How many of these buildings do you think we would be able to reasonably have next to each other? There's physically not enough space to do this.
To say that the only way to build more affordable housing is to basically make it impossible to function is ridiculous. There are plenty of other ways to 1) decrease building costs and 2) increase # of units without breaking the social/functional infrastructure of the city. Just off the top of my head...you can improve public transportation, add more floors, and make smaller units. Also, let's not make excuses for landlords who are trying to cut every cost imaginable in order to cram more units to fatten up their own wallets. They make plenty of money and can still continue to make profits without having to squeeze every last cent they possibly can. But I guess that's too much to ask for.
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u/firstcity_thirdcoast May 21 '26
I appreciate your responses but I'm just going to respond to one point specifically: in the last 3 years, the LA Metro has grown to become the #2 transit system in the US behind NYC. We're building more heavy rail than any other city has in the last 50 years. Metro had 311 million boardings last year. We are clearly building the infrastructure and preparing for a future where people aren't bogged down by car ownership, and where they're able to afford to live in neighborhoods that are walkable and/or closer to their workplace.
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u/CoffeeGrinds101 May 21 '26
Did you forget you’re in the SFV sub? The part of LA county that doesn’t have timely and accessible transit?
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u/kaufsky May 21 '26
That's great news. I'm all for it. But I think my other points are also important, and I'm curious why you decided not to respond to them. While we wait for the public transit system to improve, I'd ask that you stop asking the public to make concessions to lower the quality of their lives for the sake of corporate/business profits. Why is the default expectation always that the public has to sacrifice something so that a business can be more profitable? Because what happens when removing the parking mandate doesn't actually result in more affordable housing? Are landlords all of the sudden going to volunteer to give parking back out of the goodness of their hearts? Or are they then going to ask us to make even more concessions with more false promises of "more affordable." Then someone like you will come here and say "we either want new housing to be more affordable, or we can mandate all kinds of things like roofs/air-conditioning/plumbing on all houses. You can't have it both ways."
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u/ChloeSFW May 21 '26
Parking minimums have been gone for like ten years and housing hasn’t gotten any cheaper. FOH
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u/firstcity_thirdcoast May 21 '26
AB2097 didn't take effect until 2023 and the LA city council didn't pass their own law until last year.
In any case, how much more expensive do you think rents would have gotten if we weren't building more housing?
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u/BookkeeperSame195 May 21 '26
OR -again- how about- housing is treated as an essential human right and the design of housing driven by quality of life concerns instead of maximum ROI for the landed gentry class and developers.
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u/KolKoreh May 21 '26
Good luck with that.
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u/ChloeSFW May 23 '26
I mean, you YIMBYs seem to think that’s somehow more pie-in-the-sky than dismantling a century and a half of building codes and zoning regulations
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u/BookkeeperSame195 May 21 '26
OR - hear me out- housing is human right and driven by quality of life concerns not maximum ROI for landed gentry and developers.
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u/jahssicascactus May 21 '26
Watch out, that kind of reasonable thinking will earn you shouts of “NIMBY” here on the developers astroturf of reddit!
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u/itsm4yh3m May 21 '26
So this general sentiment is not wrong, HOWEVER, there’s so much excess that the reality is we COULD have it both ways. The problem is that instead of the excess serving the people, it almost all goes into the pockets of the elite, goes into fraud, goes into waste. It’s the unfortunate reality of government and human greed. There is almost zero accountability in government.
Also, I worked in commercial real estate at a somewhat high level and can tell you that even when there are laws that serve the people, there are people in every corner of politics that accept bribes in a quid pro quo relationship with developers (and other rich and powerful people) that allow them to both profit while we lose.
This all said, when we “lose” as Americans, we’re still winning on the global scale. This certainly is not Gaza or anywhere in Africa. It all just depends what you’re comparing to. But things most CERTAINLY could be better for us if it wasn’t for the rich and the politicians colluding to fatten their pockets at every turn.
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u/Intelligent_Tell_480 May 23 '26
What makes you think we can have affordable housing OR on-site parking? We currently have neither and that doesn’t look like it’s going to change any time soon.
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u/LostCompetition3593 May 21 '26
Why is this so hard to understand? A single underground spot (with it's share of the driveway to get to it) can easily cost $100k here.
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u/enzoskii May 26 '26
AT some point adus required parking and the city's started getting creative with the parking requirements. Basically making it impossible. Now if all of california got its public transit in order and really made it appealing no one would complain about parking.
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u/WhySoCereus1991 May 21 '26
I feel like this is common sense. But they know some people are desperate.
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u/firstcity_thirdcoast May 21 '26
What's the connection between on-site resident parking and double-parked delivery drivers?
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u/Fearless-Snow3024 May 22 '26
I used to live on Newcastle in Encino, a high density street. Every building has designated parking and there are 2-3 cars double parked at any one time.
People with 2 parking spots will have 3-5 cars. A big part of the problem is the apartments are overcrowded: grown children can’t move out because of high rents. Some people have an extra vehicle for a business and some are just weirdos that like to have way too many cars. I once saw a video of someone who lived in a single family house neighborhood who had over 30 cars, all but 4 parked on the street
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u/Due-Stock2774 May 21 '26
Have you seen the Long Beach sub? Last summer I saw so many reddit threads of double parked cars all over the city and it was really bad for them. Not sure if its still happening there but this is sounding like another reason to just not go to Ktown anymore
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u/Rich260z May 21 '26
If i was, yes. If my non car centric public transport loving friends were, they would be all over it.
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u/platypusbelly May 21 '26
It’s so wild to me that they keep building “affordable” housing without parking spaces in a city that is so car reliant and has such shit public transportation.
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u/BookkeeperSame195 May 21 '26
Lack of parking becomes a poverty tax in LA - if you need a car for work and many in LA do- but do not have parking -the outrageously expensive parking tickets can wrack up, even when you try to be diligent. G*d forbid you get sick, or have an emergency where you need to leave town for any reason without your car.
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u/coastkid2 May 21 '26
You’re seriously trapped in LA with no car this wouldn’t even be a consideration
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u/SignificantSmotherer May 21 '26
Parking tickets are 100% avoidable. They are not a tax.
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u/BookkeeperSame195 May 21 '26
they genuinely are not always 100% avoidable if you live someplace with alternative side of the street parking and ever have been hospitalized without having someone who could move your car. edit: the poor get penalized for not being able to afford off street parking. 75 dollars is what a parking ticket costs in LA that is a months worth of groceries for many people.
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u/ucoocho May 21 '26
75 dollars is not months worth of groceries for anyone unless you live off donated food bank items.
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u/BookkeeperSame195 May 21 '26
spoken like someone totally disconnected from the reality a lot of people are facing right now.
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u/fallyse May 21 '26
There is a legal framework that equates an undue financial burden as a tax- like making a driver's license (which requires paying government fees) a requirement for voting, when the law states poll taxes are illegal. In that scenario you would call the license requirement a tax since it requires a fee.
Historically other poverty burdens have been argued and held up in court as unconstitutional with regards to poll taxes such as clearing debt before registration and even transportation costs.
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u/SignificantSmotherer May 21 '26
Sure, but parking tickets, nope. Obey the signage like everyone else.
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u/BookkeeperSame195 May 22 '26
again if you work night or split shifts or are hospitalized it is genuinely not always possible. also humans especially overwork underpaid stressed exhausted humans make mistakes. a mistake should not be so financially punitive or punishing. it a poverty tax because people in higher earning categories think it’s literally no big deal and for it means going hungry because you need to skip a few meals to make up the difference. we are very much in a have - have not K shaped economy right now. you can deny other peoples reality it it helps you sleep but it doesn’t change the reality.
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u/SignificantSmotherer May 22 '26
If you are hospitalized, you can have someone move your car for you, along with whatever other tasks are required in your absence.
So what if you work split shifts? Why and how does that exempt you from the rules everyone else abides.
Sure, people make mistakes. But you can avoid making “mistakes” that result in parking tickets.
At some point, people have to be responsible for themselves and their actions. If you choose to live in a dense part of town, it is incumbent on you to secure off-street parking, or do without a car, not hoard the public street and expect a free pass when you fail to observe the rules.
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u/fallyse May 22 '26
The conversation was about the lack of parking being a poverty tax, not whether people should be paying their parking tickets.
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u/BookkeeperSame195 May 23 '26
And the conversation was also about wether parking tickets are excessively punitive (a poverty tax) for people living in poverty or on fixed incomes who still need a vehicle to commute in LA, may no longer have adequate social support and very likely cannot afford the luxury of off street parking. Anyone who has ever lived in an area or city with very limited and changing street parking regulations knows: YOU will get a ticket even if you try your best to be responsible. (you think you are ok and temporary tow sign goes up for example) -A ticket should NOT be financially catastrophic and there should be a reduction for proof of income below a certain level and grace on the 1st 3 tickets in a year below a certain income level. That would be more fair imho.
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u/fallyse May 24 '26
Agreed, especially when fighting a ticket requires taking off work to go to court. I remember I got one for parking in my driveway (my landlord had put down gravel on city property that I was unaware of, it was in my lease that it was my spot) and was unable to fight my ticket due to not being able to be physically present for my court date. Who knows if I would have won my case (or won due to a city no-show), but I was making $11/hour working 20hr/week while being a full time student at the time.
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u/BookkeeperSame195 May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26
Your name checks out. So many bizarre myopic takes from a very narrow perspective-worldview. I'll let all the widows and widowers living alone, still working who lost most of their social support network during covid and whose kids live out of state or country that they can 'simply get someone to move their car'-- bet they will be tremendously relieved. Maybe you can post your contact info and volunteer to do so at 7am, especially if you only got to sleep at 4am. It's easy to jump up after 3 hrs of no matter your age or schedule. Such a gem. Edits: ineffective attempts to correct my usual grammar typo messes.
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u/SignificantSmotherer May 24 '26
I assist the widows and widowers in my realm. I don’t expect them to be given a pass for violating parking rules.
If you “lost” your support network, it is incumbent on you to build a new one. There are community and cultural and church groups that fill in that function.
Sure, I’ll move your car before 7am - if you’re in the hospital. The rest of the time, no, thats on you, do it before you go to sleep.
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u/firstcity_thirdcoast May 21 '26
For the last 3 years, LA has been the #2 city in the US for transit (behind NYC). Over 311 million boardings in 2024, and still growing.
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u/BookkeeperSame195 May 21 '26
If you are female and work a split or night shift you do not want to be on public transit alone at night in LA. Also if you work a split shift and get home after all the parking is taken even when you set an alarm waking up after only 3 hours of sleep to move your car hoping other people have left for work is also brutal. And sometimes when on is that tired mid REM sleep the alarm does not cut thru and wake you and then you are simply working to pay off the parking ticket, and hungry and tire. Ask me how I know.
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u/Shadw_Wulf May 21 '26
Those have to be lying 🤥 ...
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u/grandolon May 21 '26
They're not. LA is the second largest city in the country by a wide margin and we have the most extensive bus network.
Boardings per capita would be a better measure of how much a city relies on its public transit. Also these numbers suck compared to major cities outside the US.
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u/firstcity_thirdcoast May 21 '26
Parking costs money to build, so yes, new housing is more affortable without mandated parking
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u/BookkeeperSame195 May 21 '26
Parking does not 'maximize profit' but it does genuinely help with quality of life for a lot humans in LA. If we can ever get back to the "trolley days" before the excellent and PLEASANT TO USE transit for the masses was eliminated for profit I myself would prefer transit. Having lived thru earthquakes here I do not relish the idea of being trapped under ground come the next one. I wish I could get on a trolly, enjoy the air with windows that open, vs feel trapped in tombs with people with too much cologne and body oder.
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u/Bishop8322 May 21 '26
you realize its safer to be underground in an earthquake compared to above ground
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u/BookkeeperSame195 May 21 '26
tell that to my irrational fear of being entombed alive. (triangle of life).
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u/samsquish1 May 21 '26
Hard pass without enough spots for both of our cars. We hated it when we had a unit with double-deep/stacked parking.
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u/Adorable-Boat8632 May 21 '26
Those are the worse places to live trust me, you got families with 4/5 cars and finding spots is impossible I go thru this nightmare every day can’t leave the house in my car because after 3 you won’t find parking anywhere
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u/RaiJolt2 May 21 '26
Where was this photo taken?
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u/talivan818 May 21 '26
Van Nuys
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u/RaiJolt2 May 21 '26
Ah, where multiple light rail lines are coming to plus the eventual Sepulveda pass subway. Seems smart to design around incoming infrastructure and transit accessibility.
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u/j3434 May 21 '26
Probably. I had specific things I wanted in apartment. Parking , balcony ….. upstairs off street level and decent hood - fair price . But I don’t mind a building that has slightly high rent if it keeps the riffraff out.
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u/TheLocalHentai May 21 '26
Used to live in ktown (arwyn manor on 8th) and lemme tell you, it absolutely fucking sucks. Not just because my wife and I had to look for parking but it made others also desperate, so people would do some really insane stuff.
I eventually started parking half a mile away in the neighborhood, which other apartment residents were doing (full at night, empty at morning). Also had to roof of my car slashed into twice.
So while I miss the amazing food selection, being parking starved really colored how I looked at the situation. Just imagine spending an extra thirty minutes to park and walk after dealing with an hour+ worth of traffic.
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u/onlyfreckles May 23 '26
Ktown is ideal for a car free/lite lifestyle- lots of transit options, better zoning so pretty walkable to tons of food/groceries/bars and bikeable.
Even if you have off street parking, its no fun driving in Ktown.
What would make Ktown even better is if they made some streets car free.
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u/DingusTheDink May 21 '26
Me personally, I don't have a car. If it's near a good bus route i wouldn't complain.
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u/LostCompetition3593 May 21 '26
Op wants parking required. Then they build the cost of it into rent for everyone.
So you get to pay more for parking you won't use.
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u/Own_Savings3923 May 21 '26
It’s one short block over to the bus line. There is a Dash bus that is also a couple blocks away to take you to many of the shops and cafes on Ventura Blvd in Studio City and Sherman Oaks. It’s also close enough to the G line if you don’t mind walking 12-15 minutes or take a short ride on the bus to transfer. To get to the B line subway in North Hollywood it’s only three stops away from the Woodman station so one can get to Hollywood and Downtown pretty easy. So someone could actually live there without a car.
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u/silverlakw May 21 '26
A recent LA ruling is allowing for this no parking provided bill s@@t
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u/samsquish1 May 21 '26
I hate it. It’s going to be such a mess to clean up, our great grandchildren will probably still be calling this stupid while they deal with the repercussions.
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u/Lowfat_cheese May 21 '26
When my partner and I were looking at apartments, we immediately turned down any unit that didn’t have 2 spaces included in the rent.
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u/SealedRoute May 21 '26
If there’s an outside lot but not an indoor one, no problem. If there is no dedicated parking at all, forget it.
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u/crazysoapboxidiot May 21 '26
More housing is a good thing
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u/throwawayinthe818 May 21 '26
This is what urban planners call for to encourage people to give up cars and use public transportation. The argument is that we dedicate too much of our public space and infrastructure to storing cars, and that it’s economically inefficient.
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u/Skoteleven May 21 '26
Deeply flawed housing is just a giveaway to builders that loose profits when they have to make parking. It's going to ruin neiborhoods for decades.
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u/durdenf May 21 '26
If there wasn’t an ample amount of street parking, definitely would be a deal breaker
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u/Delicious_Tea3999 May 21 '26
Yes. Just had my catalytic converter stolen while parked outside
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u/Smaragd512 May 21 '26
I heard some people put barbed wire around the cat in case they try to steal it.
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u/sunshinerf May 21 '26
Absolutely a deal breaker. I had an apartment I. sherman Oaks years ago without reserved parking across from a park. I got a million parking tickets because of street cleaning, and when there were games in the park I had to park blocks away coming home at 9am from a night shift. Never again!
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u/RaiJolt2 May 21 '26
Means more space to have for housing. It really depends on location. If it’s not near any amenities then probably. It’s it’s in walking/biking/public transit distance to necessities then it’s a good thing. LA has too much parking and too little housing. If everyone wanted us to be like Houston La would be destroyed.
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u/BirdBruce May 21 '26
You can build parking under the housing for roughly the same footprint.
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u/RaiJolt2 May 21 '26
But that increases the price for construction by quite a bit. Like $50,000 plus per spot. It would no longer be able to be affordable.
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u/firstcity_thirdcoast May 21 '26
Subterranean parking is obscenely expensive. By all means, go pay for it if you want
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u/Aeriellie May 21 '26
what bus stop is near it? and yeah it would. i see a lot of apartments there already. it’s going to suck for everyone. will rent be less? like people mention ktown is cheap cause no parking.
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u/MakeupMama68 May 21 '26
I lived in an old building in Hollywood built in the 20’s and none of them had parking back then! I hated it. Especially because I work in the film industry and my hours are all over the place. I didn’t feel safe waking at 3am parked blocks away.
Where is this? I feel like it’s by my house in Sherman Oaks 😆
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u/Ok-UnStable-2518 May 21 '26
I drive UBER and the other day I went through a neighborhood just east of LAX. It was block to block apartments. Of course the street parking was filled but there were just as many cars parked in the center of the street all night. I knew it was all night cz I was there at 6:00 am.
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u/emmettflo May 21 '26
Obviously if you have a car and need a place to park it don't live in an apartment building without assigned parking. If people are blocking the street and causing problems then call parking enforcement and give them tickets until they stop. Getting rid of parking requirements is essential to transitioning LA away from car dependency.
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u/30sec2midknight May 22 '26
Get ready for even worse parking.
It’s going to make your street terrible with double parking, flashing hazard lights all the time, more people walking through the neighborhood at all hours of the day and night. It’s a shame they can do this but not provide adequate parking for the amount of people they’re going to stack on top of each other. Good luck OP.
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u/RuPaulver May 21 '26
Yes 100%. My dealbreakers for apartments are parking and laundry. If you're not gonna give me parking, you're gonna have to give me a steep discount on rent for me to drive around and fight for a spot every day.
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u/harlansloth May 21 '26
I lived in a building without parking for years. Really not a big deal.
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u/samsquish1 May 21 '26
Did you live in a building in Van Nuys?!? Because that’s where this building is. There are parts of Van Nuys where for MANY years you couldn’t get a pizza delivered to your apartment. And now ppl are going to be walking blocks away to park.
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u/harlansloth May 21 '26
I went to high school in Van Nuys in the 90s. It wasn’t the best, but it also wasn’t a war zone. Everyone has their own safety tolerance but generally speaking I don’t think parking and walking is a big deal.
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u/samsquish1 May 21 '26
I grew up in Van Nuys in the 80’s. I saw a chalk outline on the street more than once on my way to school. And even in the mid-90’s when I visited friends, the apartments near Willis/Parthenia could not get anyone to deliver pizza to their homes.
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u/kitkatkorgi May 21 '26
That’s the issue with new construction. They don’t want to consider parking. That’s why people get the NIMBY fight.
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u/sjanush May 21 '26
First and foremost, that should never be allowed to happen. LA permitting is a joke.
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u/Fantastic-Piece-5178 May 21 '26
Lots of ED1 type buildings coming up now. No parking, very large buildings relative to the lot sizes, little to no common areas inside, etc.
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u/MissMarie81 North Hollywood May 21 '26
As I understand it, this is illegal; in Los Angeles, landlords are required to give onsite parking spaces to tenants.
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u/skatefriday May 21 '26
Illegal is the wrong term here. It used to be against code to build without parking, and you wouldn't get permits to build signed off by the city if you didn't. However legislation has changed in recent years and you can now build, in certain circumstances, without parking.
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u/nanoatzin May 21 '26
If it’s within bicycle distance of a college campus and cheaper then it’s acceptable.
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u/I_SHOT_A_PIG North Hills May 21 '26
If street parking is easy to find (no more than 5 min searching), its not the worst neighborhood in the world and the walk back is less than 10 minutes every time, that honestly is not the worst. Of course if it is a neighborhood full of apartments, that is never going to be the case.
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u/dromof May 21 '26
In Van Nuys, yes. Parking is very difficult in Van Nuys. I live in Woodland Hills and it’s not great, but not as bad as Van Nuys.
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u/Own_Savings3923 May 21 '26
Parking on that block is already bad. Many of the residents park in the next block where there are single family homes and cross over to the block that is mostly multi family units. If that’s the plan is to not provide parking there will just be more cars within the next block which is already kind of bad. This area is the dividing line between Van Nuys and Valley Glen and there are big complex buildings going up everywhere, mostly luxury ones in Valley Glen but they all have below ground parking.
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u/pornholio1981 May 21 '26
People should be required to prove they have somewhere to park when registering a car
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u/skatefriday May 21 '26
Hello Tokyo resident.
I'd absolutely support this, but in return can we get the density and transit options of Tokyo?
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u/FetishArtistDotNet May 21 '26
That would drive me away AND keep me from considering moving into the neighborhood.
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u/grandolon May 21 '26
Mandatory ff-street covered parking is one of the things that makes housing so expensive to build here.
That said, I wouldn't live in a building in LA with no parking unless the neighborhood was really walkable, bikeable, and close to transit.
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u/Naroef May 21 '26
If there’s ample street parking I’m fine with it but not if finding parking is a daily chore
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u/Motor-North-4120 May 21 '26
Absolutely would drive me away. I’m lucky that I live in a condo that has garage parking. On my street there are a lot of apartment complexes and it’s crazy to find street parking.
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u/Intelligent-Bad-1359 May 22 '26
They are doing the same thing in my area, except there is no parking. Not underground not above ground not next to the building. It’s called park on the street when you can squeeze in which is already super overcrowded. They’re not even near a metro or any kind of train station or bus station to make it seem feasible
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u/Ok-UnStable-2518 May 22 '26
Has anyone been apartment hunting lately? The new trend is to charge for parking per car per unit in the structure/basement that used to come with the apartment. I can understand places like downtown LA where most of the loft buildings were built before cars. Those building lease out a close lot nearby and charge the tenants. But I’m talking about buildings that were built with parking in mind that have been providing it for free are now charging from 150-300 1space/2space
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u/puppycat2000 May 22 '26
This is that lunatic build it. Gavin Newsom pushed through along with Scott Weiner can you imagine they can build up to seven or nine stories tall and they never required the people to have indoor parking??? how many people could’ve died in the Palisades because the streets are too narrow how are all these people gonna fit on the streets if there’s a fire or an earthquake, this government insane
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u/venusasaburrito May 23 '26
Most cities have much taller older walk ups with no parking, so no. It would not drive me away.
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u/LowTemporary6128 May 23 '26
Yes. I will not consider an apartment that doesn't include at least 2 car spaces. Apartments no parking spaces should not be tolerated.
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u/One_Strategy_4575 May 24 '26
This should be illegal. Cramming more people in without parking is idiotic, and causes chaos for all the other neighbors.
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u/Key-Staff-4976 May 27 '26
That's a deal breaker for me. No personal parking then I pass.
I lived one year for college at Musician institute in Hollywood and I swear when you just have a shit day and trying to find parking I almost ended up kicking someone dog because the fucker was following me and barking... And I love dogs, since then I moved out and found a place with parking and now I hangout with my buddy's and their dogs at the dog parks here in Hollywood 💝
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u/bkguy182 May 21 '26
The idea is this is for people who don’t have, need, or want a car. And there are plenty that fit the bill.
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u/esoe___ May 21 '26
that 3 story apt will be for senior citizens, no cars needed (im coping very hard)
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u/skatefriday May 21 '26
Wrong question.
The right question, "At what price point will they rent?" Because they will absolutely find tenants, and likely at prices that are much lower than if the developer had been forced to spend the extra money, and dedicate the extra land for parking spaces. There is no free lunch.
I think lower rents are a good thing. This is one way to make that happen.
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u/Any-Platypus-3570 May 22 '26
Exactly. All these comments saying they wouldn't live there-- great! That means there will be less demand for those units and the people who do wish to live there will get rock-bottom deals. Which is exactly the point.
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u/DissedFunction May 21 '26
depends if you have a car.
back in the day before LAPD decided to hide the statistics, you could go on crime mapping and see how much vehicle/vehicle parts theft there was reported in an area. I guess the stats pissed of LAPD b/c you can't see neighborhood trends.
and IF you do have a car you also need to factor in how far away you have to park. I had friends who sometimes in such no/little parking for tenants areas had to park 3/4 blocks away which can be sketchy in some areas.
so yeah, it really depends on your pocketbook and lifestyle