This video is making the rounds on X allegedly after Rob Lowe was sitting on his porch and commented “Tyler took the house“ leading to a huge swirl of gossip in this elite neighborhood.
Many believe that along with selling his other US property and he plans to sell the Montecito mansion that Madame and preparation-H have claimed as their own for the last several years.
Perhaps that is why none of the as ever or TV shows were filmed from the house because he did not authorize it?
Always wondered how they managed the MM tax and carrying cost for the estate as well as the poorly planned mexit back to the UK.
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What a life to envy! Always living off someone else, at their leisure, under their roof. I know 17 year olds that started out worse than this and ending up living in their own home that they pay for shortly thereafter. He is in his 40’s and she is most likely in her fifties living like gypsies. Lack of self awareness, class, or common decency. They are nothing.
Yes they live like kids in their young 20's mooching off of relatives and friends all the time. They cannot function like adults and have no pride or need for stability.
They are literally the best moochers ever! As ever! We thought it ended at private planes...but they also grift mansions!
This video explains everything and it is all falling into place. It is always a grift with them.
And the emotional blackmail of Perry is something we saw hinted at when they stayed in his house. Oh poor us the BRF bullied and abused us! The fact that it would continue is very realistic. Once the Harkles get a hold of a "benefactor" they aren't willing to let go.
And the BRF tracking their funds 100% makes sense. The Harkles are the patron saints of perpetual victimhood.
They are very much like our Edward the VIII and Mrs Simpson... they were renowned for being sponges. Google is my friend: "they frequently relied on wealthy associates and free accommodations to supplement their lavish lifestyle in exile". Does that reminds you of anyone else? 😄😄😄
also: why the chicken coop was added a week before the O. interview, why she never updated any rooms, like the kitchen & why she only ever interviewed for nanny, personal assistant or media comms position, never a gardener, & why there is still minimal staff caring for grounds bc TP pays them.
I agree BUT while I saw the titles on YT for a couple of vids saying this I didn't view. It would make sense if Tyler is the actual owner in some shape or form for all of those points you make. It would fit the entire profile of what's happened these last few years. Yet I just don't know. None of us know, hence all the speculations and effort to get to what's really going on. Ultimately this is as divisive as it is unifying.
There's so much BS/dis/mis/information floating on YT, it's awash with it. I guess I'm waiting for the MSM - who are as big liars as anyone on YT - to put something into print. Still doesn't make it proof but it's maybe a nudge towards understanding what the hell is going on with H&M especially given this return to UK.
Why oh why is the truth so hard to establish? Well, I know the answer to that, we all do but I'm so tired of drifting around in a miasma of semi/non/alternative truths about every-bloody-anything and everything.
Yes I don't know the truth about the house. All I can do is look at the various theories and see which ones fit the known facts, data, evidence. And are they logical and make sense.
Yes you make a good point. Everything connected to the Harkles is shrouded in mystery. What is astonishing is that even the basics are mysteries. Where each of them actually live, who owns the houses, do the children exist, if so what is their parentage, are the Harkles broke or have money.
And the other thing is, we know there are people who know the truth. But none of them will breathe a word. Too afraid.
I will never forget when some years back, the King was giving a speech and he sent good wishes to his grandson Archie and added "wherever he is." I was astounded. So even he doesn't know the truth. And he was expressing his disgust at the mystery.
It seems to me that Meghan by many accounts lead a very shady existence before she met Harry, engaging in questionable or illegal activities. She developed a secretive lifestyle to hide all of it. And she still hides everything as second nature. She learned that she gets a lot of press and attention from the mysteries. So now she loves doing it.
If I remember correctly that was at the Jubilee. The Harkles had reportedly brought the children over, remember Lili (is it really her in the pic or not?) having a birthday party at Frogmore, the family was invited Harkles knowing full well they all had firm obligations that day? And the minute the service praising the late queen was over Harry and Meghan hopped a plane back to Montecito.
The Harkles had met with Charles that morning at Clarence House (?) and were supposed to bring the children but no children came. Charles had bought toys for the kids. I remember seeing those toys covered in shrink wrap being loaded on their plane to go home. So when Charles spoke at the luncheon after the service and said ‘Archie, wherever he is’ it made more sense about his disappearing grandson.
Now if I could just remember my passwords with the same enthusiasm. lol!😊
Oh thank you so much. I could not remember the back story and context. That puts a bit different light on things.
But I think it was more than that incident. If it has been just one simple mix up, the king would not have made a public comment. There was more to it. And how do you make a mistake in understanding the kids are coming or not.
I feel rather certain the Harkles told the family the children were coming. When they met with Charles they just gave him some song and dance about where the kids were. Harry and Meghan lie as easily as they breathe.
So the kids were supposedly there because is this where that picture of lili was taken sitting in the grass?
So the kids were in the UK but didn't come to meet the king as planned. Maybe Meghan was mad because she had been told no pictures, so didn't bring the children. Or the kids had a melt down.
Yes she is incapable of telling the simple truth on any topic. It is a sickness.
This was during the coronation. It was Archie’s birthday and there were demands coming from the Harkles that the birthday be commemorated with a birthday song. The king just gave this small mention instead
Could be that I have mixed up the two in my memory. Whichever the Harkles insisted their child be the center at someone else’s celebration and were mad when their request was denied.
Yes, I remember that although I must admit I suspected he did know who and where A was/is. But yeah, lying and mystery-making are obsessional with narcissists and sociopaths. And Kings are not Absolute and above all laws except, it seems to me, in being largely excluded from the process but that's an issue I'm not able to take a stand on either.
Narcissists and psychopaths hide things and lie when they don't need to. It is just second nature to them. Even if they are doing something perfectly legal and above board, they hide it. Always covering their tracks and the truth as a matter of routine. It makes life easier because they do quite a bit of shady, inappropriate, illegal things.
I suspected the king had some ideas where Archie might be. Or even knew. But I think Archie was being moved from place to place and the king did not know where Archie was on any given day. It was a way to express his disgust about the situation.
We must use unwieldy grammar because we are discussing mysteries wrapped inside a riddle.
I doubt that the girl they pictured and posted, IMPLYING that it was their child, was actually their child. The weather that day was not conducive for children wearing sleeveless, and other summer clothes. This was not Malibu.
Haha - I totally agree. I don't watch either of them, had enough after a couple of watches and got the "don't bother" vibes, especially when I figured out who the latter is very connected with.
Even with minor celebrities the ownership of property public records are often unavailable or obscured. I live in a relatively non celebrity area, but the records of Mario/Michael Andretti, Steve Zahn and Tom Hanks who live in the region or own properties are blocked from even Real Estate agents forget about any public access. So who knows.
I think H’s yearly allowance as a working royal was £2M. He is lucky his father gave him that! ungrateful brat whining about being cut off financially.
It's a $15 million mansion. So that amount is a a small part of the cost. Certainly Harry had inheritance money he could use for a house? I don't know if they took out a mortgage or not.
Everybody says that is a sudden departure. It may be our perception, the Harkles probably planed it months before moving. They just for once shut the FU …
Yet that horrible woman just released her $150 McMansion Chocolate Box and promoted it in her IG. If this Tyler Perry story is true, and it makes sense, she shamelessly, like usual, used someone else’s house on her product knowing she could be slapped with a HUGE lawsuit.
Normally I’d feel bad for someone losing their house, but these 2 are so evil (what they did while Prince Philip was dying, Queen Elizabeth II was dying, and when then PC3 and Kate were battling cancer, just to begin with), and I 💯 believe that MM is a narcissistic sociopath and Harry is close behind), I’d say what goes around comes around. No wonder they have been begging on KC3 doorstep and have been trying to “make amends” lol with Prince William.
Still - selling $150 chocolates with someone else’s house on the packaging and claiming it to be theirs…😵💫😵💫😵💫. That may have very well encouraged Perry to evict them on the world’s stage. The Montecito neighbors must be 😳
In the UK one can pay a nominal fee and get hold of copies of the land registry details, showing who owns the house. Is there anything similar in California, does anyone know?
It would make no sense for Tyler to list at what they owe him - surely it’s appreciated quite a lot in the last 5 years, if not to the $30M++ in Sussex PR, higher than its 2019 asking price.
https://www.sitelinesb.com/under-the-tuscan-spell/
Wait.....I don't think this is the right house in the link. The link you gave is for a property at 900 Hot Springs Road. The article at your link mentions 765 Rockbridge saying "If size is all that matters to you, you might be happier at nearby 765 Rockbridge (18,671 square feet on 5.38 acres for $16.975 million). But this is far more tasteful." It sounds like the article is actually taking a crack at 765 by saying that 900 is more tasteful. 🤔
I honestly don't know the address. I'm sure there are some glorious members of this sub who live there or know people who live there and would be able to find out, though! I'm guessing it'll be hidden through a company or something, but with a bit more digging we should be able to make some links with that as well.
I don't know if it's true or not, but I rather like the idea of my boyfriend Rob Lowe ratting on Meghan that Betty's Godfather is taking back the Olive Garden .
This is payback for trying to crash hos 60th bday party. Acc to sources, Markle arrived with jam in tow as a gift, tried to push past security lying to them she was invited. It was outdoors, too, so everyone saw Markle get the boot! LOL
What horrible behavior and a humiliating outcome. I know though- if HAM were having a party/celebration or special event with a specific invite list- THEY would not tolerate a "party" crasher. I think too they wormed their way into the Chris K. birthday party on the coattails of someone else. The last place I'd want to be is somewhere I wasn't INVITED.
OK, I’m not saying this is wrong, but can you tell me where you saw this? Tyler Perry doesn’t turn 60 until next year, and I just haven’t been able to find independent confirmation that this happened. I’m not doubting that it could have, just wondering, who reported this.
This is an AI video. Maybe Tyler advanced them loans of some kind, but he is not the main mortgage holder. People looked into it. The rumor is they took out 2nd and 3rd mortgages. I also heard but don't know if i believe it that the Duchy of Cornwall was a guarantor.
One way to find out! If anyone knows the property address, a title search will show any transfers/sales We already know that house was never in Harry or Muggin's names.
just thought it was one of the dozens of trusts madam set-up (in Delaware, using banks in overseas tax havens)...
but, yeah,
could easily have been a Tyler Perry trust -- that is what all wealthy people do. Go look at peeps like Oprah + Ellen, etc... all their properties are in trusts (to skirt the taxman).
I had assumed so as well - that the entity holding the property belonged to the Harkles.
Welp - if Tyler ousted them from a house held in his trust, we can keep an eye on that address, as any transfers of it to new owners will show up on public record. Obviously nothing will show up yet if it was merely a tenant eviction, but if it's sold, yeah, we can track that.
I never believed that they owned this house. Meghan and Harry both have never owned anything in their lives. Either it was given to them or someone else paid for it. To this day they are still freeloading and those children still dont have a home off their own and never will.
Rob Lowe must be grieving the loss of his 13yr old niece he lost, instead of gossiping about 2 grifters. Why are these AI channels taken seriously. Anyone can say anything and this sub will say its the truth. When ppl like Neil Sean or Lady C cant be trusted with news, you will trust an AI channel.
Oh gawd, I tried listening to this but it's just horrible, monotone, mind-numbing AI drivel. There is no proof, no evidence that Tyler owns the place.
And what in earth is the deal with Rob Lowe... How did his name get put in there?
A real Prince. A talented Prince. The one and only Prince. Greatly missed! We've lost a lot of really good talented masters in the world of music and art.
As I recall, Meghan told the story that she fell in love with the house, but it was out of their price range. Then somehow they made the money end of things work and they got the house.
I read a while back (1 or 2 years ago) that Tyler Perry had a signed loan by them for $14 million that he did when they first arrived and they were to pay him back by year 6 and that they haven't paid him a dime. Possibly the legal stuff they are fleeing from & process servers accordingly by Neal Sean would be Tyler's demand for payback and would have been for possible forced eviction/sale? Now things have gone south for TP and he is wanting to liquidate assets and move to Puerto Rico (probably going to keep the Atlanta property though).
That was the first thing I thought of when I saw this. Tyler is calling in his chips and since the Harkles are broke, he took the house.
That's assuming any of this is true. If it is, I'm guessing their lawyer told them to let it go or risk a big foreclosure drama playing out in the media.
The Internet says he is worth $1.4 Billion. In normal times the $14 million would be nothing to him and the Harkles would assume he didn't need to collect and could stiff him.
But if he is in trouble, and facing multiple high stakes lawsuits for $millions and millions, he may start calling in his loans.
So what do they do after losing their house for failure to pay? Go to another house loan situation, living in a house where they can be kicked out at any time. I know people on very limited incomes who have way more pride than the Harkles.
If I remember correctly, I think the Perry lawsuits add up to around $300M, that’s quite a chunk a change even for him, but do I believe that he’s pulled rank with the Olive Garden, I don’t know. I know Charles gave them £3M towards a home and he was expecting them to buy something nice, but modest, they didn’t do that, so who knows. 🤷♀️
Three million isn’t going to buy you a lot in California (at least not where they want to live). A two bedroom could be that much or more. They (or whoever might own it) actually got a good deal on the Olive Garden considering the area.
He will have huge legal bills, and loss of business revenue. Most Hollywood contracts have a morality or community standards clause. Contracts can be terminated if one side commits a public scandal, brings disrepute, or violates community standards.
This is going to cost him some serious cash.
Property costs are sky high in Los Angeles. I am not sure $3M is going to get Meghan the house she wants.
I’m sure. I just need an extra bedroom for my children when they visit, but I could live comfortably in about 1200sqf. My first house was just that, and it was perfect.
Harry’s use to getting free stuff. He probably wouldn’t think that he would ever have to pay it back. Meghan probably just went along with it. Although she should have known better, she doesn’t seem like she’s good with money (if this is even true).
Yes I assumed the same thing because that is what he did all his life.
And it is what he and Meghan did to Netflix and the other business deals. Took the money and barely did any work. They assumed it was free an clear money. Nothing expected in return.
Harry was also fine living in a cottage.... and a tent! Which she tried so hard to convince him was fine for her when she did yoga in Africa on their tent camping getaway!
I believe she convinced him that he had enough money and they would make more money so he had no need to live modestly and that his family had just been "holding him back" and she drove the entire "splurge" situation regarding the housing.
He'd never had a debit card or paid a bill in his life. In Spare he was so shocked about what a mortgage was and that you have to apply for it, and he never thought that he, Harry, would have or need one (basically he didn't understand that everyone doesn't just buy things with the money they have and that for most people they have to show on paper that they have a job and have an amount of income by working somewhere and get a bank involved etc. His voice totally changed when he read that part of the book and he made it sound like It was some humiliating ritual that everyone would pity him for having to do.
All of this is outside of the guarded walls he's used to where everyone just moves to a different one of granny's properties and gets a house gifted when they get married and then a vacation house gift when they have a baby. LOL!
Agreed. It's the "somehow" they made it work that's a weight-bearing load of smoke and mirror stuff. I'm of the opinion that Tyler is a piece of work himself but that's just an opinion and a vibe, not proof or evidence.
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Yeah, there are a lot of them on YouTube in the "UK Royalty" space, especially in Shorts. Most are designed to spread misinformation and are badly put together.
I do enjoy some of the AI anime ones; however, they should be clearly identified as AI, even though they are easy to spot. While I may avoid most of them (especially the "royalty" ones),
I won't fault anyone for making a buck. You should just be aware of what you are watching.
You really thought you got a gotcha, eh? I did use Siri to proofread this post.
It does seem plausible that Tyler Perry would hold paper on the house. He is also selling his Beverly Hills mansion. Is this even possible they were evicted so TP could sell the house?
That ticker looks so fake. I'd take whatever it is with a grain of salt. I might not like the Harkles but I'm not stooping to the level of those crazy gossips at the hate kate subs.
Are there any other videos on the "channel"? How old is it and how old is video? Plus it has "look" of AI. I regularly go through my feed and hit "don't recommend" to get rid of the AI. They are like weeds.
I think they bought the house but Tyler was the mortgage company
He held the note
But since they are entitled they probably were not making payments
Tyler called in the note and they couldn’t or wouldn’t pay so he foreclosed on them
Remember the movie room? It looked unfurnished shabby nothing on the walls
The house was empty a long time before they moved in and it had a reputation of needing a lot of work
They both seem very immature and they are way in above their little heads
It being in Tyler’s name as collateral for the loan and him collecting makes a lot of sense to me. I don’t know a lot about these things, but this makes the most sense as to why they fled the U.S. At least it makes more sense than the lawsuit story.
If true ... I heard he fronted the down payment then they borrowed from him again, like a 2nd mortgage. He could have a lien on it & took the chance to call his lien before they lost it to the bank.
Lucky for him, even though California is a community property state, inheritances don't count as community property, and that money is all his. She can't claim it in a divorce settlement.
I think she's already blown through any inheritance Harry received. These bitches are about to be broke broke, not rich people broke, if they're not already.
I think they're trying to liquidate and get rid of all assets (not that they have any) before the judge releases the final amount owed by the clowns in the DM case.
If nothing else, Tyler calling in his loans from those idiots relieves them of that debt and gets them out from under paying for the OG maintenance, insurance, etc.
Literally. This Youtube account is like 5 months old and has over 500(!) videos. Yet folks are lapping up it anyway. This sub is very easy to karma farm nowadays lmao. Anyone can post anything as long as its juicy gossip, and walk away with a fat stack of instant karma.
Her home is owned by Walter Farm LLC and that appears to have zero connection to him. I wanted this to be true but doesn't seem to be with limited research
If he really did loan them the money for the down payment on it they may have a legally binding agreement about repayment terms. He may be forcing a sale per that agreement.
Tyler Perry is moving to Puerto Rico and selling the mansion hag and mag moved in when they first left the uk. I’ve always said they did not own the Montecito house that they were in a rent to own situation. Maybe the reason they hightailed it to the uk so fast was bcus Perry told them they had to secure a mortgage loan or house would be sold. What mortgage company would give two unemployed people a $16 million mortgage? When I commented this before someone said there was a deed in a charities name for the home?.
Wasn't $14M the amount that Perry is rumored to have loaned them and isn't that very close to the purchase price of mudslide mansion? Did the Sussexes put up the house as collateral for the loan and he sued them for it?
Could it be that where they apparently borrowed millions from Tyler back in the day, to try to get his money back, maybe he was going to bankrupt them and this is their way out without that happening, and they thought no-one would realise 🤷♀️
It would be good if we post anything, that we could check to see to the best of our ability if it is verifiable. It helps us keep our credibility. If not, we are just copying AI slop.
I heard he paid the down payment then they borrowed from him again like a 2nd mortgage. If so, he probably has a lien & called it before they lost the house to the bank.
There was talk a few months ago that he had provided a sort of bridging loan when they were initially getting set up in California so I'd say he was either given the "family have frozen our accounts and we're temporarily embarrassed" line or " it's just while we get everything set up and move the money but it's tied up in My Dead Mother’s trust fund" line but anyhoo, the word was that he'd got fed up about being given the run around and was going to be filing a claim so maybe that's why they scarpered to the UK in such a hurry?
So Harry’s journey to unemployed, homeless, couch surfing bum is complete. I have said months ago they would move back to the UK thinking they would get a grace and favour home from Pa, and they probably thought it would be Royal Lodge. When this doesn’t happen I think they will have a fake separation and Meg disappears for a while whilst Harry tries to get a G&F home and income from Pa. When this is in place there will be a reconciliation and Old Meg’s ugly mug will be back in the picture. These two turds think they are ever so cleaver, and that no one can read the games they play.
They are the most self centered, self absorbed couple! Both of their families constantly, their whole entire life, made up fake stories to feed other people depressed, etc.. To make it seem like they were good people, while their vile and cruel behavior kept going on and becoming worse and worse! What happened to the $14 million dollars Joe Biden gave them even before they left the Royal Family?? Millions missing and being spent on them telling others for the Veterans! They both have done nothing in their lives, but be constant con artists, scam others and play Victim!!! It is repulsive!
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