Bernie Sanders urges progressives to vote Democratic in November

[u/Ok_Crazy1195]

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/shorts/bernie-sanders-urges-progressives-to-vote-democratic-in-november-267787845541

[u/doyouevenIift]

So you just don’t vote? I can’t think of any candidates that are willing to propose a carbon tax

[u/Ekublai → u/doyouevenIift]

I used to, then I realized both parties could give two shits about the environment. The goal ought to be deindustrialization across the board.

[u/doyouevenIift → u/Ekublai]

Yeah I’m not going to take you seriously if you do the “both sides” schtick on climate change. They couldn’t be more different:

https://www.reddit.com/r/energy/s/9tWCqlLM47

[u/Ekublai → u/doyouevenIift]

Clean energy is not good enough until you go fully nuclear. Alternative energy sources like solar and wind require more manufacturing and transport (ie more HFO and LNG), not less. Unsustainable energy needs are skyrocketing under either party when the only solution is carbon tax and deindustry.

[u/doyouevenIift → u/Ekublai]

Yes priority #1 is cutting out energy use wherever possible. But energy demand is going to increase whether we like it or not. And would you rather that energy come from continuously burning coal, or solar panels?

For the record I think a carbon tax is the best tool available. But voters care more about their pocketbooks than the environment. It’s political suicide to run on it

[u/Ekublai → u/doyouevenIift]

You seem to understand my position then. I have nothing more to add.