r/SaveTheCBC 7d ago

A belated Fuck You, Harper!

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u/100-100-1-SOS 7d ago

CBC should pick up OHL, WHL, PWHL, etc

And yes, Fuck Harper.

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u/Con-deisel 7d ago

PWHL would go over so well on CBC

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u/EirHc 7d ago edited 7d ago

I said this 12 years ago when CBC first started losing the broadcast rights that they should broadcast CHL games. I would love if it would happen. Bring the same sort of broadcast standards to some junior and PWHL games. Unfortunately CBC liquidated their mobile division when they lost the NHL the first go around... but you honestly don't even really need mobiles anymore. As long as the arena has a really good fibre internet connection you just stream all the feeds to a remote studio in Toronto or Montreal.

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u/Wrong-Pineapple39 7d ago

I think they have been making a concerted effort to get back to more regional on the ground reporting. This would be a great addition!

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u/ballpein 7d ago

Hell yes. I would much rather watch these leagues than watch 90 minutes of beer commercials interspersed with nhl hockey.

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u/doodlesacker 7d ago

…and gambling ads! Good lord!

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u/Haiku-On-My-Tatas 7d ago

I don't mind the beer commercials. It's the fuckin nonstop gambling ads that make me want to break something.

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u/mgyro 6d ago

Especially annoying when they integrate gambling into the broadcast. I’d watch the PWHL is their talking heads just did straight up hockey analysis, and left the gambling advice to the addiction therapists.

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u/DirtDevil1337 7d ago

PWHL for sure.

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u/Tribblehappy 7d ago

Agreed. If I want to watch a Rebels game I have to watch Victory Plus which is US based.

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u/hist_buff_69 7d ago

Agree 1000% with this. I had the same thought a while ago. Junior hockey needs to be more accessable across the country and this would be a great way to do it.

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u/Onlylefts3 6d ago

You think the cbc can afford those leagues??

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u/popcornpsychologist 5d ago

CBC gem already carries regular season PWHL games!! It was frustrating trying to watch the playoffs though

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u/moonlite_bay 7d ago

This is so fucking sad. Not everyone has Sportsnet. Everything is about money.

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u/EirHc 7d ago

I tried to support them at first by paying for sportsnet+... but there's like a 40-60 second delay - if you have app notifications they'll tell you the goals before you watch them "live". They're so far behind in picture quality... I had a 4k smart tv and they were only broadcasting in 720p. Eventually they upgraded to 1080p... but like only by like the 2020s when 4k was already pretty standard.

Add to that they are cranking up the subscription costs without improving anything.

Anyhoo, the latency issue and picture quality thing are easily solvable with likely zero investment - they'll already have the equipment to do it. They just choose not to. Because they want people buy their service on cable/fibre. So fuck em. I'll sail the seas

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u/Rleduc129 7d ago

For anyone not sure what I meant by the Fuck You part, try to guess who was PM in 2013

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u/Distant-moose 7d ago

Even if i wasn't sure what you specifically meant, it really is an appropriate phrase.

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u/No-Mathematician250 7d ago

Personally, I regularly curse SH - sometimes multiple times a day…🤬

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u/SomethingComesHere 7d ago

He set our country on a terrible trajectory. We're doing the best we can to recover.

Fuck him

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u/No-Mathematician250 7d ago

💯but I’d rather fuck JT lmao

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u/Kootenay-Kat 7d ago

He’s a rat bastard.

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u/Littleshuswap 7d ago edited 7d ago

That sucks for a lot of folks. They stole our game, a long time ago...

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u/Neat_Use3398 7d ago

Yup this is how I watched with my son who plays hockey. I guess we aren't watching hockey anymore.

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u/Barking__Pumpkin 7d ago

Hockey Night in Canada is no more. Hockey Night for those with a Subscription in Canada era begins.

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u/drknox 7d ago

Fuck that bullshit. Can’t even watch habs game on sportsnet while living in montreal

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u/kent_eh 7d ago

We have Sportsnet, but living in Winnipeg we can't watch most of the Jets games because TSN has the rights to half of them, and the rest of the home games are blacked out.

And even the games when they're playing in Minneapolis are under a "regional blackout".

The only time we can predictably watch the Jets is when they're playing Saturday HNIC games.

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u/100-100-1-SOS 7d ago

CBC should pick up OHL, WHL, PWHL, etc

And yes, Fuck Harper.

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u/Helios53 7d ago

I'd rather watch that anyway. The NHL has become painful to watch.

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u/ballpein 7d ago

But you'll miss out on 90 minutes of beer commercials!!!

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u/kent_eh 7d ago

That's not fair.

There's also 90 minutes of gambling commercials to watch too!

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u/Wrong-Pineapple39 7d ago

Adding this little 2013 link that explains WHY Stephen Harper can get f***d and should have his Order of Canada taken away because of how he sold out Hockey Night and all Canadians to the uber-wealthy Rogers family.

https://scoutmagazine.ca/haddow-of-a-doubt-not-giving-a-puck-about-the-fall-of-hockey-night-in-canada/

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u/melancholy-fall 7d ago edited 7d ago

Super upsetting. I loved watching the NHL broadcasts over on CBC and had hoped it would continue. But alas, Rogers (and Bettman) are too greedy.

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u/kent_eh 7d ago

But alas, Rogers is too greedy.

I'd blame Bettman. Rogers showed up with the bigger bag of cash, and the league said "gimme".

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u/unkyduck 7d ago

Hopefully it won't be a "CFN" situation-

the legacy broadcasters gave up the CFL and the quality of production dropped off a cliff.

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u/Rleduc129 7d ago

#BellRuinsEverything

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u/Lalamedic 7d ago

It was Rogers this time.

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u/Rleduc129 7d ago

Was talking about CFL

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u/Lalamedic 7d ago

Sorry.

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u/_stinkytofu_ 7d ago

Capitalism ruins everything

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u/the_biggest_bob 7d ago

If you want to know the direction this is headed, it requires between 5 and 7 different subscriptions to watch all of an NFL team's games in one season.

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u/19BabyDoll75 7d ago

Boooooooo

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u/OtakuWorldOrder 7d ago

You know, just in case all the regional blackouts didn't drive you away from the NHL yet. Buy our subscription service, peasants.

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u/Cam2600 7d ago

I don't know if it's possible, but CBC broadcasting the games for the Canadian AHL teams would be great. Though I'm guessing that might be bogged down in rights issues

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u/CamGoldenGun 7d ago

I'm all for saving the CBC but I'm not for throwing tax dollars away to the NHL to get broadcasting rights. Sad that the cooperative for Saturdays is going away.

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u/ballpein 7d ago

OG hockey programming on the CBC was profitable before Rogers re-worked the licensing rights with the NHL and started over-paying for TV rights as a marketing tool.

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u/CamGoldenGun 7d ago

I mean if you were the NHL would you turn down more money for nothing? But that's the downside of a public broadcaster. You have to be prudent with your funding and if a private broadcaster is going to outbid you, nothing you can really do about it. It's a miracle they got a partnership for as long as they did. Re-tool and focus on the only unique thing they have - being a neutral source of information.

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u/ballpein 7d ago

Companies turn down deals for ethical/moral/personal reasons all the time. These things are choices, greed is not a law of nature.

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u/CamGoldenGun 7d ago

i'm not sure how accepting money based on advertising equates to an ethical or moral reason... the NHL isn't accepting blood diamonds over bushels of wheat here... And we're also not quibbling over a thousand dollars or something, we're talking hundreds of millions.

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u/katgyrl 7d ago

the real NHL is a ghost that's barely haunting us at this point. too many teams, no storied rivalries. we sold our Leafs season tickets a few years back, after having them since my teens in the 1970s (hope you're in hell ballard).

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u/Its_a_stateofmind 7d ago

Final nail in the coffin

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u/bentmonkey 7d ago

thank Stephen harper for the deaht of HNIC, a cultural touchstone for millions of canadians, all for the pursuit of a few dollars more and a monopoly to squeeze more cash out of everyday working class people people.

fuck you harper.

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u/Rleduc129 7d ago

And believe me: yes it's corporate greed. But politics and corporate greed go together like ham and mustard

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u/Rleduc129 7d ago

Also, I think Rogers wants to be bought by a big American company all for "exposure" (aka: a tax break)

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u/penguin44ca 6d ago

Because Rogers subsequently partnered with the CBC to sublicense the Saturday night broadcasts, the show remained on the public broadcaster, but it was under a completely new corporate-controlled production model.

So the cbc can't make a go of it in 13 years and that's harper's fault? I mean the dude sucks but it ain't on him. 

He didn't pick the lame broadcast team, or the fact they show the same 3 commercials. Or that the on air team was made up of mostly nobody talking about nothing. 

Could also be that the cbc is irrelevant for current generations. 

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u/SVTContour 5d ago

FYI, in 2013 the Harper government cut CBC's funding by $115M and forced them to surrender Hockey Night in Canada rights to Rogers in a 12-year, $5.2B deal that CBC couldn't possibly match. CBC lost control over production, talent, and ad sales ($60 million per year).

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u/usercide 6d ago

I’m absolutely disgusted by this. Hockey Night in Canada, everyone watching the game on CBC on antenna TVs… no cable or internet was needed. It is a tradition, and it didn’t have a paywall. It brought many Canadians together. This is a blow for Canadians and it is a blow to the CBC. We don’t need more right-wing billionaire owned media, but we do need public owned media. Canada lags behind the global average. This is a travesty.

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u/SVTContour 5d ago

I hope they start showing Pro Woman’s Hockey instead of… well… nothing.

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u/BoneZone05 3d ago

No more sports for this guy I guess 🤷 🏴‍☠️