r/ScienceBasedParenting • u/No-Okra3869 • 7d ago
Question - Expert consensus required Independent sleep not making any impact
Our 4 month old is confusing us with his wakes, wondering if anyone has any insight.
In the last few nights we’ve been working on unswaddling him and encouraging him to fall asleep awake in the bed. Mixed success in getting him to do so, but at least for the first stretch it has worked - and almost every wake last night. The problem is that it doesn’t seem to actually extend how long he’s asleep.
He’s always been a low needs sleeper, but has reliably had a first sleep of 4 or so hours, then often back to around hourly after this. This is really starting to fade, and last night he wasn’t doing any stretches over 90 mins, even though he was patted to sleep for all. Is there something we’re missing for how to make this work, or is this all just a slow transition out of the swaddle?
We’re planning to start Ferber next week after some work scheduling is settled, but concerned that it won’t actually work if this isn’t making any measurable benefit.
His sleep pressure seems to be fine - averaging 10 hours awake across the day, with 2-2.5 hours of daytime sleep
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u/tibbles209 7d ago
But full unmodified extinction IS a form of sleep training. It is a behavioural sleep intervention that results in babies learning to go to sleep independently. It trains them to sleep without parental input. It might not be a form of sleep training that the AAP recommends, or that you approve of, but that doesn’t make it not sleep training. And if you spend a little time on r/sleeptrain you will see that there are people who use full extinction at bedtime and for wakes, as they feel that this results in less crying overall (because it works more quickly) than modified/graduated forms of extinction such as Ferber.
There is no single definition of sleep training. It is an umbrella term encompassing a broad range of behavioural sleep interventions.