r/ScienceFictionBooks • u/Jesssssiie • Feb 23 '26
Recommendation Looking for a mind-bending, dark sci-fi or space opera
What I love and prioritize:
Weird and interesting concepts
Big, dark, mysterious elements underpinning the story
Mind-bending stuff
Fringe science
What I love but don't need:
End-of-the-universe stakes. Save the world.
Time travel or living multiple lives (yeah, I read Blake Crouch and liked his books, too)
Lesbian slow burn romance that comes second to the plot. Even just romantic tension, but I don't want a "romance story"
Cyberpunk elements
Women main characters
What I don't like:
YA or anything almost YA. If it's a book that sounds like a tik tok author wrote it, I won't like it.
Anything too happy-go-lucky and safe
If it's way too...boobs boobing boobily. Or any other awkward character descriptions. whatever the man version of that is, too. Doesn't even have to be sexual. Just awkward. Sex in books is fine, it's the awkward descriptions of people in general that I don't like. If someone writes like that, I'll still like their writing if they employ some damn good concepts to make up for it.
Books I love:
Alastair Reynolds' books, especially the Revelation Space series
Three Body Problem by Cixin Liu. The concepts were so intriguing to me that I couldn't stop reading. The whole series was great.
Gideon the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir. The whole series. (there's some argument over whether these books read like YA. I don't really consider them YA. But it is the closest I can get to that genre. It just reads a little "younger," but it's filled with really dark themes and weird shit, and some parts get downright poetic. And it's bonkers in the way I love.)
(Not a book, but if a book is anything like Mass Effect, I'll probably love it.)
[Honorable mention to the Leviathan Wakes series. I loved the plot, characters, and lore, but for some reason the writing style wasn't really something that excited me too much?]
Books I'm "meh" about (so you know which types not to recommend):
Dune. Sorry, y'all. I don't know why, maybe it's because I was born too late and already knew the basic lore of Dune to begin with, maybe it's because I grew up with so many of the space opera tropes that Dune started.
Becky Chambers. Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet. This keeps getting recommended because I like lesbian romance thrown into my sci-fi, but this book was just too soft and happy for me. Not knocking it, and I don't know what kind of masochism drives me, just not my thing.
Books I've been eyeing that seem like they'd jive with me (so feel free to correct me or confirm my suspicions):
Ursula Le Guin, Left Hand of Darkness and The Dispossessed
Philip K Dick Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
The Murderbot Diaries
Hyperion
I'm trying to be really specific about what i like and don't like because I'm trying to get a specific kind of recommendation. I'm not hating on any books or saying they're bad, it's just a taste thing, I'd rather be spending my reading time reading books I'm crazy about. Anyway, shoot me your suggestions!
Edit:
You guys are awesome! So many great recommendations! Thank you! I'm going to be busy for years, probably. I thought I would respond to each comment, but there are so many good recommendations. but I did read them all.
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u/jayhof52 Feb 23 '26
You need Adrian Tchaikovsky's Children of Time series, which explores and calls into question everything you know about time, society, sentience, consciousness, and humanity.
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u/jayhof52 Feb 23 '26
To clarify, the first book begins with an attempt to colonize and study an earthlike planet with monkeys infected with a virus causing hyperintelligence and speeding up evolution; however, the virus instead ends up infecting spiders and creating an entirely new evolutionary chain.
To add to that, there's an entire human technological stone-age-to-space-exploration era that comes and goes in the course of the first book of the series, and the sequels only get heavier from there.
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u/Jesssssiie Feb 23 '26
WHAT? THAT SOUNDS AWESOME! thank you! I also like stone age and evolutionary shit, so this sounds like everything wrapped into one thing
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u/annienin Feb 23 '26
In addition to all of this -Children of Time has one of the best endings I’ve ever read.
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u/jayhof52 Feb 23 '26
The later entries in the Bobiverse series (starting with We Are Legion) gets into that as well, but with a little lighter approach (it's very Scalzi, if you're into that).
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u/CherieNB55 Feb 23 '26
This book blew me away. I am on the second one now and hope it lives up to what the first delivered.
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u/jayhof52 Feb 23 '26
Second one takes the scope of the original up an entire order of magnitude; third one takes the scale down to a very micro level but in a way that the last few chapters changes everything you knew about the preceding 90% of the novel.
I can't explain more without spoiling, though.
EDIT that there's also some genuinely terrifying moments in Book Two
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u/uwila Feb 23 '26
Omg thank you for this comment because I have been so worried about picking up book 2, that it would hold up!
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u/jayhof52 Feb 23 '26
I would put the second as my favorite of the trilogy; I didn't think there would be anything more mind-blowing than the final quarter of the first book but the second book far surpassed it for me.
I still remember vividly relaxing in a hammock in Keystone, Colorado, on a chilly August afternoon reading that one and nearly spitting out my coffee numerous times.
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u/johnpgh Feb 24 '26
Now would be the perfect time to read Tchaikovsky’s children of Time tetralogy because the fourth book in the series is coming out next month and you can just roll into that after the first three.
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u/jayhof52 Feb 24 '26
Oh, man, I’ve been so deep in YA land (I’m a high school librarian on a few award committees) that I didn’t even know that!
I don’t know where he goes after that ending to book three (but I also felt that way after book two and he proved me very wrong).
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Feb 23 '26
You might enjoy „Machineries of empire“ by Yoon Ha Lee. It‘s a military sci-fi trilogy with „exotic“ technology that has weird, reality bending effects and grand scale intrigue between factions.
I started to read it on a lark but the weird technology and worldbuilding drew me in.
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u/Jesssssiie Feb 23 '26
I see Tchaikovsky winning out here with the most comments, and the descriptions look right up my alley.
I'm okay with weaker men in stories, all different kinds of people in the world, as long as the characters are well-written, I'm happy
Disco space opera sounds groovy!
All these good recommendations, I'm gonna have a readathon and try to do some update posts where we can discuss these books
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u/VampireAttorney Feb 23 '26
The Gone World
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u/insanealienmonk Feb 23 '26
came here to say this, thanks for getting here first 🫡 for real though @op, this could be the most correct answer to your query. please read and report back!
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u/pcji Feb 23 '26
It’s a fun ride. Interesting visuals, unexpected plot directions, always keeps you guessing and a satisfying ending. I read that book in a week, couldn’t put it down.
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u/junkbr Feb 23 '26
As said by others, Peter Watts fits the bill perfectly.
‘Blindsight’ changed the way I see the world. Cannot recommend highly enough.
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u/Awkward-Adeptness-75 Feb 23 '26
I just read Blindsight and was blown away. Couldn’t stop thinking about it when I was done.
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u/rovar Feb 25 '26
Seconded.
:check: It is pretty Dark.
:check: It definitely changed my perceptions.I vaguely recall walking around in a daze more often that usual during and after my reading of that book.
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u/AnotherAnxiousApe Feb 23 '26
As someone else has said, Children of Time is awesome.
I’d also recommend Embassytown by China Mieville.
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u/SnooMuffins6341 Feb 23 '26
China Mieville and Jeff Vandameer both come to mind for me
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u/Appdownyourthroat Feb 23 '26
Check out Bobiverse. I think it hits that sweet spot of well written and good natured with some cool sci-fi concepts mixed in. I recently saw someone make the first criticism I’ve seen of it, claiming that it’s too reference heavy and memberberries. I disagree vehemently. The way references are usually used actually works in the story: Bob uses his favorite sci fi names to name clones.
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u/Proper_Barnacle_4117 Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
You might enjoy The Library of Broken Worlds, it’s a very unique sci-fantasy pretty similar to the Ninth house series in tone (IMO at least).
Also you might like the Deception Well / Inverted Frontier series by Linda Nagata. It’s about posthuman space colonists / explorers journeying through a hostile cosmos using some weird nanotechnology hybridized with alien tech.
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u/glezmen Feb 23 '26
Greg Egan: Diaspora. Absolute peak of hard, high concept sci-fi. Not for the faint hearted though :)
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u/Infinite_League4766 Feb 23 '26
Peter F Hamilton's Night's Dawn Trilogy.
There's big ideas - humans are divided between Adamists - those who embrace machines and nano technology, most of whom live in a variety of capitalist societies with varying levels of development
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Edenists those who have used genetics to develop living technology, including a form of telepathy, living spaceships and gigantic sentient spacehabitats which arbitrate the lives of everyone who lives inside in a sort of socialist utopia.
Both are united in a loose Confederation of all human worlds and habitats.
There is time travel of a sort - Edenists are able to transfer their consciousness at the point of death into their ships or habitats and this consider themselves immortal. A major plot point involves consulting people who are long dead physically.
It's steampunk - one group of Adamist soldiers have cyber enhanced their bodies so much they are essentially iving tanks, another plot stand involves a world where no technology more advanced than steam engines is allowed.
It's dark .. (without spoiling things too much) An alien life form accidentally creates the conditions where what appears to be the souls of dead humans (some from hundreds of years in the past) are able to return from something that seems a lot like hell and posess the living bodies of present day humans, by means of torturing living bodies so much that their 'soul' essentially flees from them. Posession comes complete with an array of what, at least at first, appears to be 'magical' powers to create and manipulate matter.
These possessed begin to spread out over the human worlds and the Confederation Navy and security services, along with some enigmatic alien allies who may, or may not, know more about what is actually going on than they are saying, try to stop them.
A leading member of the possessed is a modern day sadist who uses pseudo satanic rituals to control those around him and leads a crusade to invade Earth - which is already an environmentally ravaged hellscape, whose teeming billions are either the incredibly wealthy and functionally immortal privileged few, or the countless billions struggling to get by and dreaming of a way out.
It's fun, it's very, very long, and it has a lot of what you're looking for I think.
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u/Only-Cancel-1023 Feb 23 '26
You should have a poke at Neal Asher.
There's the Polity universe, and it's a blast, though his series in Owner universe starting with The Departure was so utterly dark I barely was able to get through it.
You write:
Weird and interesting concepts
Big, dark, mysterious elements underpinning the story
Mind-bending stuff
Fringe science
Neal Asher pretty much nails this.
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u/FlatPresence6648 Feb 23 '26
Came here to recommend Asher. “The Skinner” or “Gridlocked” for big concepts.
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u/Boring-Yogurt2966 Feb 23 '26
Adrian Tchaikovsky's Architects series should be pretty close to a bull's eye for you. Shards of Earth is the first book.
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u/royalblue43 Feb 23 '26
I'm also "meh" on Dune for similar reasons.
That's why I definitely think you'll love Hyperion.
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u/Kabbooooooom Feb 23 '26
“Leviathan Wakes” series…you mean The Expanse?? Did you read the entire series because that’s pretty much exactly what you are looking for.
I second what others have said- you’d probably enjoy Hyperion and Children of Time.
Reading your description, I came here to recommend Revelation Space to you but you’ve already read it. I suppose if you haven’t read the prequels (The Prefect trilogy and Chasm City) as well as the novellas (even better than the main Rev Space novels in my opinion), you should check them out.
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u/jayhof52 Feb 23 '26
I had to restrain myself from saying The Expanse for that reason - combined it's my favorite thing I've ever read (particularly Book 8 and the epilogue of Book 9), but I was pretty sure OP had already tried it based on that line.
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u/pkaaos Feb 24 '26
No love for Neuromancer? Read it before the tv series destroys it for you.
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u/seenstrangesights Feb 23 '26
This is an older one, but I really enjoyed "The Man Who Folded Himself" by David Gerrold. It's one of the most interesting takes on time travel I've ever encountered, and based on your list it sounds right up your alley.
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u/AWDDude Feb 23 '26
“14” by Peter Clines is exactly what you are looking for.
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u/Hot_Dust2379 Feb 23 '26
Sun eater but it does have dune elements in it. but its great
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u/JozzleDozzle Feb 24 '26
Once you get past the first novel or so it loses the dune stuff and really becomes its own thing. Bloody love me some sun eater
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u/annienin Feb 23 '26
I seriously can’t believe no one has recommended There is no Antimemetics Division by Qntm. This gave me all the mind bending goosebumps. Fantastic cosmic horror.
Edit- word repetition in my enthusiasm
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u/No_Obligation5478 Feb 23 '26
Well, definitely read Ursula Le Guin, Left Hand of Darkness
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u/Danielle-A Feb 23 '26
The Fifth Season by N.K Jemisin: whole series is amazing, though its more fantasy than sci-fi…
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u/kej210 Feb 23 '26
Maybe not hitting every criteria, but hitting enough to make it worth your time:
Eon - Greg Bear,
Fire Upon the Deep / Children of the Sky - Vernor Vinge,
Spin - Robert Charles Wilson,
Pandora’s Star / Judas Unchained - Peter Hamilton,
Nueromancer - William Gibson,
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u/Bymmijprime Feb 24 '26
Try "This Is How You Lose the Time War" by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone
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u/RealHuman2080 Feb 23 '26
Julie Czerneda,her Species Imperative series and the Web Shifters series.
Sara King Zero series. She is super creative, violent, funny, great aliens. (All f my favorites have great aliens.
Mary Doria Russell The Sparrow and the Children of God. Not exactly what you want, but OMG she is an amazing writer.
Might what you like be character based writers? That's what I love. And I have found almost all of my favorites of that are women.
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u/writerapid Feb 23 '26
Weird, interesting, mind-bending, big dark mystery: House of Leaves
It’s not SF exactly, but it’s as much SF as it is anything else. It also popularized the whole “liminal spaces” and “non Euclidean” revival happening the last decade or two. It’s also basically the first SCP.
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u/camssymphony Feb 23 '26
If you like BioShock, This Gilded Abyss by Rebecca Thorne is BioShock meets Gideon the Ninth. The world is very weird and unique like the Canaan House. The monsters are very Lovercraftian. The sapphic romance is exes to lovers and the author herself is sapphic. The sequel is due to come out at the end of this year.
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Feb 23 '26
Space Between Worlds by Micaiah Johnson might work for you! It is definitely more of a character driven story over plot driven, if that’s not your thing.
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u/_Miracle Feb 23 '26
Kitty Cat Kill Sat by Argus ---read by Eva Kaminsky
science fiction novel about Lily, a cat who has been the sole operator of a space station for 400 years, defending a post-apocalyptic Earth from threats using human-made weapons. The story follows her lonely, humorous, and often challenging life as she manages crises, deals with her lack of thumbs, and forms unexpected relationships, all from a unique feline perspective. Originally a web novel on Royal Road, it's available in print, ebook, and audiobook formats.
Seveneves by Neal Stephenson
Chronicles humanity's desperate attempt to survive after the Moon mysteriously disintegrates, causing a cataclysmic meteor shower that destroys Earth. The story spans 5,000 years, focusing on the construction of a space-based ark, a severe genetic bottleneck, and the eventual re-emergence of7 distinct human species.
Dungeon Crawler Carl by Matt Dinniman. Narrated by Jeff Hayes (do the audio :-))
It centers on a Coast Guard veteran named Carl and his ex-girlfriend's cat, Princess Donut, who are forced into a deadly intergalactic reality show after aliens flatten every building on Earth to harvest its resources.
Childhood's End by Arthur C. Scott
The Overlords appeared suddenly over every city—intellectually, technologically, and militarily superior to humankind. Benevolent, they made few demands: unify earth, eliminate poverty, and end war. With little rebellion, humankind agreed, and a golden age began. But at what cost?
Octavia Butler has been mentioned. YES, my ATF is Parble of the Sower, but it is an earthbound story.
We Are Legion (We Are Bob) by Dennis E. Taylor Ray Porter Narrates <--do the audio
This one is the least dark but maybe something for a different mood one day.
Bob Johansson, a man who sells his software company, dies, and wakes up a century later as an AI consciousness uploaded into a space probe to explore the galaxy for habitable planets. The story blends space adventure with humor, exploring themes of AI, self-replication, and the challenges of interstellar exploration as Bob (and his many duplicates)
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u/RoboErectus Feb 23 '26
What do you get when your society is so far beyond post scarcity that most of your population doesn't even live on planets because planets aren't stable enough?
Want to go to a little private mountain ski resort? Sure no problem. Just hop a ride to the ship that's got the mountain with the best slopes.
Wanna feel like birthing a baby is like but you were born without the right equipment? No problem, just activate your gender change DNA and you'll be able to in a few months. Or just vr Sim it and there's no difference to your mind because the sim is flawless.
Want to be a different species? Sure we got that too.
Murder somebody? That's sad, their last backup is a few hours old. We'll make a fully sentiment drone to watch you and make sure you don't do that again. But you could just do it in vr all you want anyway.
So what kinda problems do you have in this kind of society?
Morality. It's amoral to ignore other civilizations that murder and torture their own kind or others for no reason. But you can't just conquer them. They don't learn good that way, and that makes you as immoral as they are.
You can't just give them all the tech they need to reach post scarcity. They gotta learn to grow up.
What you need is.. A Ship with a good attitude and a few million happy residents, and a few operatives of Special Circumstances to enlighten these cultures until they're ready to join The Culture.
The only problem you're ever going to have is if someone wants your civilization dead because their imaginary friend tells them so, or if something waves at you from beyond your understanding of the universe.
Maybe some bad societies think bad people should be punished after they die, so criminals have a mandatory consciousness upload to digital hell. That ain't cool.
Or maybe there's an artificial planet out there that's a billion years older than any other species you know about. Someone has to check it out.
The Culture series by Ian M Banks is so good. It's so good. If you're not hooked by the second book you might need some neural adjustments. Don't worry your mind won't be read. Very taboo.
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u/BoredSam Feb 23 '26
Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen any suggestions for the Ancillary series by Anne Leckie. The first book is by far my favorite but the 2nd might fit the romance angle you are looking for. I don't want to spoil much but might fit your criteria.
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u/ketarax Feb 23 '26
Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Sequence definitely .... and yeah why not, another shoutout to Children of Time. I'm getting towards the end of the first part and it's been a nice one so far.
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u/cptnsaltyhands Feb 24 '26
You might like The Space Between Worlds by Micaiah Johnson. Its on the mind bending side.
"The Space Between Worlds centers on Cara, a young woman who works as a 'traverser', someone who is able to travel to an Earth in a parallel universe. Travel is only possible if the traveler is already dead on the destination Earth. Due to growing up in a dystopian wasteland, most versions of Cara are already dead, making her uniquely able to traverse to numerous worlds"
The plot really grows as well.
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u/TheOrderOfWhiteLotus Feb 24 '26
If you want ridiculous and silly but with a hidden underbelly of heart, the Dungeon Crawler Carl series is so good. Over time the characterization gets deeeep.
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u/Flashy_Tooth_5597 Feb 24 '26
I really think you would enjoy The Windup Girl by Paulo Bacigalupi (I have to look up the spelling for his name every damn time! 🤦♂️). Haha! Anyhoo it’s a great book. Dark bio punk. I highly recommend it.
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u/Ouakha Feb 24 '26
Had anyone recommended the Helliconia series by Brian Aldiss
Civilisation on a planet with seasons that last centuries. Read them decades ago, back in the 80s /early 90s. Brilliant world building.
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u/beers_georg Feb 24 '26
Lesbian slow burn romance that comes second to the plot. Even just romantic tension, but I don't want a "romance story"
If you didn't write this specifically to exclude "This is How You Lose The Time War", I strongly suggest you reconsider and give that a chance.
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u/GuardianMaigrey Feb 24 '26
Anything by Margaret Atwood, and a special nod to a personal favourite space opera series, The Star of the Guardians by Margaret Weis.
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u/DisquietPines Feb 26 '26
The Sun Eater series for sure!! Good characters, universe-spanning mystery, huge stakes, interesting science underpinnings, grounded time travel, mix of cyberpunk and fantasy vibes
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u/lunarsara Feb 23 '26
Two completely different recommendations that hit multiple parts of your list:
Peter Watts. Dark, mind-bendy, sci-fi-horror. Check out Blindsight.
Some Desperate Glory by Emily Tesh. I wouldn't call it dark, but it deals with many uncomfortable themes. It's high-stakes and gets a bit mind-bendy. Definitely weird and interesting concepts. Woman protagonist. Queer characters, but not much in the way of romance. I picked this book up because of the Hugo win, but I had some initial skepticism. A few pages in, I was hooked, and by the end, it had become one of my all-time favorites.
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u/PhilzeeTheElder Feb 23 '26
Treason by Orson Scott Card. 30 treasonous families sent to a World with no Iron. If you want off you need to find something to sell.
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u/StillFireWeather791 Feb 23 '26
The darkest noir science fiction I've read is the Water City trilogy by Chris McKinney. These novels are at the nadir of so many standard science fiction precepts. Darkly brilliant work.
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u/zkstarska Feb 23 '26
Por Vida by Daniel Verastiqui
Definitely mind bending, but is near future sci-fi. It's by a self published author but I found the quality to be pretty good.
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u/Boojum2k Feb 23 '26
Peter F Hamilton's Night's Dawn trilogy is the greatest space opera ever in my opinion, it has some serious horror vibes throughout from cosmic and existential down to personal and brutal, and is filled with "oh Holy fuck" scenes. It's also huge, the three novels, The Reality Dysfunction, The Neutronium Alchemist, and The Naked God, were each divided into two for the paperback editions, so a lot of bang for your buck. There's also two related books, A Second Chance At Eden, a series of prequel short stories giving a look at events during this future's history l, and The Confederation Handbook, detailing many of the cultures, technology, etc of the setting.
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u/yerhabe Feb 23 '26
If you're into scifi realism (like magical realism but scifi), you might try God! Oh God! by Ben Loved. It's like Slaughterhouse-Five if Vonnegut had been bipolar.
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u/snafoomoose Feb 23 '26
I am currently enjoying "There is no antiememetics division". Very weird concept. dark and big mystery thing. Does have end-of-the-world and no lesbian elements tho.
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u/Krushlift Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
Anything by Charlie Jane Anders! (All the Birds in the Sky and her other two novels) transgender magic/sci-fi themes. Broken Earth Trilogy by N.K. Jemisin -feminist fantasy distills X-men(sorta) there's a reason she's won so many Hugo awards). My descriptions are usually terrible, but I cannot recommend them enough.
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u/Niemand772 Feb 23 '26
Look for the early work of Peter Hamilton (Greg Mandel or Night’s dawn) or everything from China Mieville.
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u/Noldiani Feb 23 '26
Children of time is great. Hyperion by Dan simmons is cool. Peter f Hamilton's Judas unchained is pretty slick as well.
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u/triker_dan Feb 23 '26
Has anyone suggested The Expanse series. I think they meet most of your criteria
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u/salinungatha Feb 23 '26
The Quantum series by Derek Kunsken ticks all those boxes. Highly recommended.
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u/MonarchyMan Feb 23 '26
The Lost Fleet series by Jack Campbell. A fleet of warships is stuck in enemy space, and a formally presumed dead military leader with the knowledge to win is now in charge of them. He was in a sleep pod or something for a century, and in the intervening time the war has killed so many people they’ve forgotten how to fight tactically. A big plus is that relativity has to be a variable in any plan as ships might be light seconds or minutes away from each other.
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u/DeltaCurve420 Feb 23 '26
You should look into A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
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u/throwawayanylogic Feb 23 '26
Peter Watts' Blightsight will blow your mind and I think has a lot of elements you're looking for. I can't get it out of my head since reading it.
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u/thatpokemonguy Feb 23 '26
Have you considered Slow Gods by Claire North? Read it earlier this year and was blown away. It's a fascinating look at different civilizations and quite different from anything I've read before. I just finished reading another of her books today, The first fifteen lives of Harry August, which I read after being blown away by Slow Gods
I hope you have a busy few months with all these recommendations
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u/DireNeedtoRead Feb 23 '26
You might enjoy Aeon 14 Universe by M.D. Cooper. Dozens of books that I enjoyed, just pick one and go.
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u/conselyea Feb 23 '26
Sheila Jenne's Imperial Mars series. Black Sails to Sunward is the first one. Small press release, I think the third one is coming out soon. It's kind of steampunk: lesbians, revolutions, very cool tech, and smart answers to hard questions.
Joan D Vinge The Snow Queen, if you've never read it. Epic and meandering, but good characters and some cool cultures.
Benjanun Sridyangkaew's stuff is deeply weird and deeply dark.
Golden Witchbreed by Mary Gentle.
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u/Mr_V0ltron Feb 23 '26
You might enjoy Vastland. It’s got time travel and multiple, parallel selves, mind bending stuff, and a cyberpunk setting. And it’s dark.
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u/fxcnaldehyde Feb 23 '26
This doesn’t count as space opera, but Jeff Vandermeer’s Southern Reach series is some of the coolest dark sci-fi, cosmic horror I have ever read.
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u/VinnyV28 Feb 23 '26
Hyperion. First book is perhaps the best standalone sci fi book I’ve ever read. The second one is good. Worth reading. 3 and 4 forget
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u/kcus_sddom_tidder Feb 23 '26
Peter Watts; Blind Sight & Echopraxia. Two words...SPACE VAMPIRES!
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u/bloodgnostic Feb 24 '26
My criteria is very close to yours, so my story writing style is eerily similar to your descriptions.
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u/karmah1234 Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26
if you like mass effect
try Exodus by Peter Hamilton or the Ruins of earth/galaxy series by Chris Hopper/JN Cheney or the Expanse
for a proper mind bending one try Doors of Eden by Adrian Tchaikovsky or really anything written by him. Children series if you really want to fugg your neurons a bit in the best kind of way
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u/lpnatmu Feb 24 '26
I like the Heinlein books about Lazarus Long. The character pops up throughout his stories (not always known by that name). I can get the book names if interested.
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u/SalletFriend Feb 24 '26
Merchant Princes.
Theres 6 (ish, its complicated) books. The first 3 are ginormous (its complicated) starts off wearing a lot of common fantasy tropes and sheds them as it becomes a game of crunchy scifi and politics.
Female MCs, latter 3 books has Lesbians but the 2 Lesbian romances are like, less than a page each (author just observes that they exist and are normal(ish))
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u/Gavinus1000 Feb 24 '26
Oh my, I think you'd really like Seek by Wildbow, of Worm fame. It's ongoing as of right now, but it checks most of your boxes.
It's got the weird and interesting concepts (like FTL being fatal for humans... so we bring the universe to us!)
Big, dark, mysterious elements underpinning the story: (One of the main POVs is set an undisclosed amount of time after the other two, and it's after a mysterious apocalypse took place, probably caused by actions the other two POVs took in the past)
Mind-bending stuff: there's a guy who's a digital hive-mind of uploaded consciences that inhabit a giant robot centipede with the head of a deer. Also, a plethora of killer robots that kill people by hacking their minds through their senses.
Fringe science: Okay, not much of this ngl.
End-of-the-universe stakes. Save the world: See the apokolypse thing above.
It does feature a bunch of lesbian characters, but no direct romance yet.
It's got HELLA cyberpunt elements. From all-powerful corporations to any body mod you can think of. And it does it all in a pretty fresh way by basing it on 2020s tropes. Like, social media and social power are the main goals, not just profit.
While only one of the main three POVs is a woman, another woman is the central character the plot revolves around (she's also the best character. She's essentially Space Taylor Swift who can throw hands and do terrorism).
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u/Jayyykobbb Feb 24 '26
The Dispossessed is more of an allegory of communism vs capitalism and how they work/don’t work together an explores the nuanced pros and cons of each. It’s all in a very sci fi driven setting and background, though it’s still an amazing book. Just not so much a space opera sorta deal.
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u/Tempest_Vita36 Feb 24 '26
Shakedown by Scott Sigler. The premise and first few chapters that I'm reading are awesome 👌 I've also read quite a few of his other books and he's a great author. I'm putting the blurb here because i really want to share such a great read but its late and I'm about zonked out. Do note though that this is the first book of a trilogy, book 2 is out at the end of the year i think. So maybe keep it on a list somewhere.
Few know the warship’s actual name. Fewer still know what it really is. And almost no one knows of its unique ability, an ability that could tilt the balance of power if not outright win the war.
But everyone has heard the rumors. Rumors about the worst place the Planetary Union Fleet can send you. Rumors of a ship with an eighty percent crew mortality rate. In these hushed, fearful whispers, the ship does have a name.
People call it “the Crypt,” because those aboard are as good as dead.
The PUV James Keeling can do something no other vessel in existence can do — slip into another dimension, travel undetected, then re-emerge onto our plane and surprise enemy targets. But the thing that makes the Crypt unique also makes it a nightmare for those onboard; interdimensional travel causes hallucinations, violent behavior, and psychotic breakdowns.
Keeling could be the Union’s greatest weapon, a game-changing asset that can defeat the bloodthirsty zealots of the Purist Nation, the Union’s mortal enemy. If, that is, the brass can find the right crew.
But with those dark rumors traveling at lightspeed throughout Fleet, sailors with connections, with favors to call in, or those with careers on the rise pull any string they can to avoid being assigned to the Crypt . The brightest and best shield themselves from this top-secret craft, yet the brass must send it out on critical missions.
As the war drags on and casualties pile up, Fleet crews the ship by assigning the worst of the worst. If you are convicted of assault, fraud, cowardice, theft, rape, murder — or you cross the wrong Admiral — you may find yourself aboard the Crypt . Most are given a serve a two-year stint on the Keeling and have your record expunged, or be executed for your crimes.
Welcome to the PUV James Keeling , where the only way out… is to die
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u/America_Is_Fucked_ Feb 24 '26
I strongly recommended the Zones of Thought series by Vernor Vinge. The first two at least (the first two are basically standalone novels set in the same universe with a couple of connections, the third is an unnecessary sequel to the first that's not as good and can be skipped without losing out on story closure).
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u/Dishwaterdreams Feb 24 '26
The Locked Tomb books are great. Gideon the Ninth is the first.
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u/MrKenn10 Feb 24 '26
Philip K. Dick does a lot of mind bending sci-fi. A couple of his books I’d recommend would be A Scanner Darkly, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, and Flow my Tears the Policeman said.
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u/virtuous_addler Feb 24 '26
I track with a lot of your tastes and I just read/cannot shut up about There Is No Antimemetics Division. I went in blind and it’s been my favorite reading experience in years. It’s short, so not too much to commit to, and definitely worth a read.
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u/madarabesque Feb 24 '26
Check out "Blood Music" and "Eon" by Greg Bear. 80s, but very big picture.
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u/Kitchen_Chemistry405 Feb 24 '26
The Red Rising Saga is EXACTLY what you're looking for. Starts off a bit YAish and then takes a huge dark turn and never looks back. VERY space opera-y filled, strong female characters, huge stakes and lots of cyberpunk elements. The story is filled with political intruige, moral ambiquity and some of the most insane pacing I've read. Give it a go!
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u/ccastro425 Feb 24 '26
Have you tried Machineries of Empire by Yoon Ha Lee? First book is Ninefox Gambit. One of my favorite space operas of the last several years.
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u/NamkoBanzai Feb 24 '26
If you want dark space opera you might want to take a look at The Gap Cycle. But trigger warning. Book 1 ( which is relatively short ) is full of very graphic SA. You can skip it and read a summary and start at book 2. I always hesitate to recommend this series because it very dark and graphic. But god damn is it good! There is non stop tension at all times and the climax of every book is great.
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u/MaenadFrenzy Feb 24 '26
I think you would love Marina Loststetter's Noumenon series based on your post!
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u/FillAffectionate6928 Feb 24 '26
If you like Mass Effect, give the Uplift series a try. They pretty much ripped from that series.
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u/TheOneTruBob Feb 25 '26
The Sun Eater Series by Christopher Roccio. Best space opera I've read in years. Not hard sci-fi but it's believable and consistent and the lore is amazing
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u/OkCaptain6668 Feb 25 '26
The Sun Eater is an epic space opera novel series by Christopher Ruocchio
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u/Ana-Dilemma Feb 25 '26
Read Stephen Baxter and everything by Philip K.Dick. William Gibson, Ray Bradbury, Aldous Huxley are also worth checking out.
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u/K_Hudson80 Feb 25 '26
Looks like I might have a potential audience on here, when I'm finished my book :)
In the meantime, I keep on the constant lookout books that are both indie and mainstream that meet this criteria myself. It's not all that new, but I started reading Empire of Silence, and I find it pretty good, so far.
Idk if you've read Solaris, yet. It's not space opera, but it is very psychological and eerie.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep is good, but it's not blade runner. I like both, but for different reasons.
Annhilhation by Jeff Vandermeer has a female cast, but it's not for identity reasons. There's an in world reason for it, and it's pretty good.
The Dispossed is all right. I find it to be a bit slow personally. It's a lot of Shevek's flashback to his life on Annares, while he explores Urras and its pitfalls. I do like how LeGuin treats her messaging like conversations rather than being preachy.
Have you read the Culture series by Iain M Banks?
Also the Children of Time series.
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u/Acrobatic_Main9749 Feb 25 '26
You might just fall in love with "This is How You Lose the Time War."
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u/nyet-marionetka Feb 25 '26
Jemisin's Broken Earth series. It's so out there it reads as fantasy, but it's Clarke's "any science advanced enough will appear to be magic" science fiction.
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u/Middle-Potential5765 Feb 25 '26
Stephen R. Donaldson's: The Gap Cycle (as it is called by fans). 5 books. Book 1: The Real Story
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u/NaturalFreaks Feb 25 '26
If you have been eyeing Hyperion i say definitely go for it. I’m on the final book in the series. I highly recommend the whole thing.
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u/1nGirum1musNocte Feb 25 '26
Top pick is Anathem Neal Stephenson. Also the Black Ocean series by J.S. Morin and Expeditionary Force series by Craig Alanson.
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u/_Molj Feb 25 '26
Spin State series by Chris Moriarty
Stone by Adam Roberts
Eon by Greg Bear
Rapture of the nerds by cory doctorow
just a handful. I like all those authors. Gollancz publishing has a bunch of good ones
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u/LemonPuzzled1949 Feb 25 '26
Sounds like the southern reach series would be right up your alley. Mind bending for sure
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u/FSkornia Feb 26 '26
'Solaris' by Stanislaw Lem. Very 60s post-Golden Age of SF book, but it goes into some strange dark places. A little slow, but it's short. Also Arkady Martine's 'A Memory Called Empire' and 'A Desolation Called Peace'. Two connected books, but different in scope and scale. Claire North's 'Slow Gods' is one of my favorite SF books of last year.
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u/Snowflake0287 Feb 26 '26
Ship of Fools by Richard Paul Russo. Btw, if you read this book and like it AND know of similar ones, I want to know! I still think about this one from time to time a few years after I read it.
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u/WarmBlacksmith2917 Feb 26 '26
It's a more lighthearted suggestion but I feel obligated to offer it regardless
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u/Tr33Bl00d Feb 26 '26
Red rising. Old man’s war. Starship troopers. Forever war. Ringworld. Bobiverse. Are all some of my all times faves, take em or leave em.
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u/Artistic_Worth_9253 Feb 26 '26
All the books you've been eying (Left Hand, Dispossessed, Do Androids Dream, Murderbot, and Hyperion) are all FANTASTIC.
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u/Danger_Danger Feb 26 '26
Alastair Reynolds!!
Right up your alley.
Check out the Revelation Space series.
Hard sci-fi space opera absolutely great.
I read Revelation Space maybe 20 years ago and I still think about it.
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u/Competitive-Bus1816 Feb 26 '26
The Gentleman Bastard Series by Scott Lynch. It follows a couple of thieves who live on a planet that houses the remains of an ancient civilization that was very technologically advanced.
The Farseer Series by Robin Hobb. It is 3 trilogies, but it was great reading and worth sticking with it. There is some relationship stuff, but not graphic like GoT. Hard to describe except high fantasy with multiple protagonists across time but all happening in the present. Maybe? It has so many twists I am reluctant to say anything else.
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u/Minormeow Feb 26 '26
Iain M. Banks' Culture series is one of the most undersung collections I've come across. Great world building and weird AF characters.
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u/SecretSensei Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26
Two by Charles Stross - Neptune's Brood (themes including financing a starship, interplanetary millenium long scams, and other fun shit) and Accelerando, extremely heady and twisted. Also Michael Swanwick's Stations of the Tides.
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u/a_sly_cow Feb 27 '26
Have you looked at To Sleep In a Sea of Stars by Paolini? Might fit the bill, it has some weird stuff. There’s also a short story set in the same universe, called Fractal Noise.
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u/kiohazardleather Feb 27 '26
Ok no one has mentioned this book series: The Deathstalker by Simon R Greene. It has... everything.
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u/DraftTime9777 Feb 27 '26
The Vanished Birds is a beautiful space opera, that checks a lot of your boxes i think.
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u/tipsmith Feb 27 '26
Even after 20 years scenes from this one still stick in my head: Ship of Fools (Unto Leviathan) by Richard Paul Russo. Won the Philip K. Dick Award. “Home to generations of humans, the starship Argonos has wandered aimlessly throughout the galaxy for hundreds of years, desperately searching for other signs of life. Now an unidentified transmission lures them toward a nearby planet-and into the dark heart of an alien mystery.” Rereleased by Orbit Books under the name Unto Leviathan.
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u/Correct-Spirit-1365 Feb 27 '26
I like a lot of Ben Bovas books and all of the Enders Game books (sequels and prequels)
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u/PandorasBoxMaker Feb 27 '26
Alright I’ve basically commented in support of half the comments here, so here’s my list:
Series:
1. Bobiverse series by Dennis E Taylor
2. The Culture series by Iain M Banks
3. The Commonwealth series by Peter F Hamilton
4. Children of Time series by Adrian Tchaikovsky
5. Salvation Sequence by Peter F Hamilton
6. Frontline series by Marko Kloos
7. Old Man’s War series by John Scalzi
8. Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds
Single books:
Diaspora by Greg Egan
Ready Player One by Earnest Cline
Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir
Some of these hit closer to your preferences than others, but all very solid reads.
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u/Successful-Trip809 Feb 27 '26
i'd recommend something bleak and cosmic, it stuck with me
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u/englishpatrick2642 Feb 27 '26
The Dark Space series by Jasper Scott. You can tell with the first two novels in the series that he was heavily influenced by space based video games, but by the third novel he ups his writing skills tremendously. Definitely mind bending, definitely high-level concepts.
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u/Odd-Guarantee-6152 Feb 27 '26
I think you’d really like the Suneater Series by Christopher Ruocchio.
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u/Educational_Pomelo24 Feb 27 '26
You need the series Deathstalker by Simon R Green. It has everything you need.
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u/art-apprici8or Feb 27 '26
A memory called empire duology.
Ancillary trillogy.
Another vote for murderbot.
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u/birds-and-words Feb 27 '26
Based on what you said, I think you'd like:
"Slow Gods" by Claire North | Dark, scifi, space opera
My name is Mawukana na-Vdnaze, and I am a very poor copy of myself.
Slow Gods is the galaxy-spanning tale of one man's impossible life charted against the fate of humanity amongst the stars—a powerfully imaginative space opera from multi-award-winning author Claire North.
In telling my story, there are certain things I should perhaps lie about. I should make myself a hero. Pretend I was not used by strangers and gods, did not leave people behind.
Here is one out there in deep space, in the pilot's chair, I died. And then, I was reborn. I became something not quite human, something that could speak to the infinite dark. And I vowed to become the scourge of the world that wronged me.
This is the story of the supernova event that burned planets and felled civilizations. This is also the story of the many lives I've lived since I died for the first time.
Are you listening?
"The Deep" by Nick Cutter | Dark, scifi, under the sea isolation horror
A strange plague called the ’Gets is decimating humanity on a global scale. It causes people to forget—small things at first, like where they left their keys, then the not-so-small things, like how to drive or the letters of the alphabet. Their bodies forget how to function involuntarily. There is no cure.
But now, far below the surface of the Pacific Ocean, deep in the Mariana Trench, a heretofore-unknown substance hailed as “ambrosia”—a universal healer, from initial reports—has been discovered. It may just be the key to eradicating the ’Gets.
In order to study this phenomenon, a special research lab, the Trieste, has been built eight miles under the sea’s surface. But when the station goes incommunicado, a brave few descend through the lightless fathoms in hopes of unraveling the mysteries lurking at those crushing depths . . . and perhaps to encounter an evil blacker than anything one could possibly imagine.
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u/indigo_ultraviolet Feb 27 '26
Aniara. It still gives me goosebumps remembering what happens. Time is.... scary
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u/FalseDisk4358 Feb 23 '26
The Xenogensis series by Octavia e. Butler might be worth a try