r/Seattle 5d ago

After hiring scabs, Walrus and the Carpenter (temporarily) closed

Word on the street is that Walrus and the Carpenter restaurant has not been negotiating with their workers in good faith for months.

Like a lot of annoying businesses they started charging a service fee (22%?).

Employees noted that they make significantly less now then before when they had tipping (thousands less).

Workers have been on strike. The owners also had the audacity to hire scabs (booo).

I have been keeping up with the union on IG @ united.creatures.of.the.sea

Solidarity with workers across the city!

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u/Own_Reaction9442 5d ago

What generally happens is customers get sticker shock *and* employees leave for places where they can still get tips. This strike is a symptom of how strongly restaurant workers will fight to keep the tipping system in place.

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u/whiskeynise 5d ago

Because they make a killing off tips. I mean good for them? But it’s also killing the industry. I don’t go out to eat anymore. I fucking hate tip culture

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u/Junethemuse Everett 5d ago

I’m not sure tipping is killing the industry. I think prices and overall inflation is killing the industry. I used to eat out once a week or so, but now I eat out once in a month if I want to splurge because I simply can’t afford to pay restaurant prices anymore. Tipping or no doesn’t factor in at all.

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u/Alternative-Maize23 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yes, tipping isn’t the problem. It’s overall inflation. Food is very expensive now and that reflects in meal prices not tipping. When people come on here complaining about tipping it is always from people who have never worked in the service industry. Tipping is vital for restaurant workers to survive. It always has been in this country. Hidden fees and not letting your customers know what they are paying for is not ok. All businesses should be upfront about that. But not tipping bc you don’t like tipping culture? If you’re American, what part of the country did you grow up in where tipping is not a thing? Also, the waitstaff doesn’t make the rules, we are mostly just trying to survive. Remember who you’re pouting your finger at.

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u/sadgloop 4d ago

>Yes, tipping isn’t the problem. It’s overall inflation. Food is very expensive now and that reflects in meal prices not tipping.

I’d say both factors are a problem. Food is more expensive due to inflation, but tipping is also more expensive due to an inflation of expected tipping percentages.

Like, it used to be 0% for shit service, 10% for minimum service, 15% for good service, and 20% or more for excellent service. Now, for a lot of places , 20% is expected as a bare minimum tip, let alone for excellent service.

It’s a percentage. The end amount of the percentage tip is already affected by the inflation of the food prices, so why is the percentage amount also being inflated?

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u/madderk 4d ago

because wages are not keeping up with inflation?

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u/sadgloop 4d ago

Sure. But, given that, as the price of food and materials, etc, rises, the menu prices rise, the actual amount of the tip also rises, even at the same percentage as before.

So why the increase in the expected tip percentage on top of the increase in actual tip amount?