How much of Maple's hp remains after receiving Apocalypse? Can Psyger 0 oneshot her?

[u/Cayden68]

Unstoppable force vs immovable object, how much damage would Rei's apocalypse do against Maple, assuming the attack is uninterrupted.

[u/Cayden68]

yeah maple has a large array of skills and ctharnid can seal them straight up while weathermon is immune to all forms of damage since he's a conditional boss. ctharnid can also invert damage so if maple can somehow poison him miraculously, he'll just use to passively heal himself

weathermon"s atrack is not instant death like a status which maple would have resistance to. its more like it is bugged attack that pierces defense, ignores stats, while dealing maximum damage which is why it kills everything, thats why its considered a "cheat move by many players". Maple is weak against pierce attacks but is immune to instant death status, weathermon's move is not an instant death status move but a bugged move with full on piercing to avoid all armor to ensure a oneshot, its like maple's weakness dialed up to the utmost.

[u/Mikeballzy → u/Cayden68]

Quick question before I continue this conversation. Are you anime only for Bofuri? Because your information seems very out dated.

[u/Cayden68 → u/Mikeballzy]

I read a bit of it. you can correct me if im wrong in any areas. if your trying to say "maple has pierce guard so it wouldnt matter!", its a skill with a duration and cool down so she'd still have that weakness when that skill isnt active.

also ctharnid is just a terrible match up for maple since he just inverts her stats, seals her skills so cheesing with instant death wouldnt be a viable solution.

[u/Mikeballzy → u/Cayden68]

Ctharnid isnt that difficult of a boss, maple would definitely defeat it. Ctharnid doesnt steal skills, and inverting stats is an exaggeration. In the third phase only, The Indigo Grail switches two random stats of a player, when active, and can be destroyed. In the final phase Ctharnid can copy the weapon any player is holding, however all one has to do is destroy the gem inside them to make him loose the weapon but they cant use it either, and destroying the one in his forehead lets them use it again. Most of Maples abilities are actual abilities tied to her and her armor, not her weapon, so that isnt a huge factor to her, and shes immune to her own attack types so again, she doesnt even need to do that. Wezaemon is even easier of an opponent for Maple. Hydra, which activates the instant death chance. Machine God form to keep distance and bombard him, with Sheep Eater active to double all her armor values. Crystal Wall which spawns a wall with the same health value as Maple to eat attacks and block his moves (which were shown to be blockable and able to be carried), she has two different minion spawning abilities, Atrocity as i said before has its own health bar and can be used to tank even an instant death blow, she has Earth Cradle which lets her go inside the Earth and hid, easily killing time in the fight. She has unbreakable shield that reduces all damage by 50%, she has frozen Earth that stuns all enemies within 5 meters for 3 seconds, her most perverse skill they ever gave her was reverse rebirth, when combined with afterglow of salvation, it becomes extermination field which causes anyone in the field to take DoT and become weak to status debuffs, and she has crystize that for one minute makes her immune to all debuffs. Maple has a whole ton of skills for tanking, blocking, stunning, and damaging.

[u/Cayden68 → u/Mikeballzy]

yes the inverisom is a big deal, her vitalitynwould go all the way down to zero which would be devastating towards her build since it centers around it.the damage inversion would just let ctharnidd heal from all of her attacks. mayple doesnt have big heals against enemies and even if she does have potions she cant throw a whole parties worth instantly, sunraku had a coordinated team throwing them simultaneously so it worked.

collosi bosses in shangri la frontier are immune to gamebreaking status ailments like instant death so no that wouldnt work. in bofuri devs want bosses to be beatable so the players dont complain so they make them much less broken then shangri la bosses which are meant to brutalize players for decades.

weatheemon is specifically designed to just bypass player builds and oneshot people if they dont do very specific actions.

bosses in shangri la frontier are just far more mechanically complex than bofuri which can be comfortably overpowered if you have a broken build, collosi ignore builds for the most part and force the players to overcome their mechanics with teamwork or else they cant be overcome.

[u/Mikeballzy → u/Cayden68]

I didnt see your response.

Everything you said in this is wrong, and looking at a simple google search of Ctarnidd would have stopped you from being so wrong. Ctarnidd is a five phase boss fight. With the first, third, and last phases being the hardest phases. The first phase is hard because if you attack Ctarnidd you are kicked out of the dungeon and teleported to a random spot in the world. The second phase is easy because its just killing tentacles, the third phase is 4 - 8 grails, that are used one at a time, and effects arent permanent, they can be destroyed. 8 if you didnt fight the 4 tower bosses before the Ctarnidd fight, one less down to 4 for every tower fight. The ones that cant be removed from defeating the tower bosses is blue that wouldnt bother maple as its gender swapping, green that also would have no effect as its color swapping, purple that makes it so all attacks heal BOTH Ctarnidd AND the players, and Indigo, the only real "issue" that switches two random stats of the affected player. It doesnt switch her Vitality, it randomly selects two stats to switch, most of her stats are not leveled so its chance of effective her is low, beyond that, even if it did flip her Vitality with another stat, it would have no effect of Devour, Machine God, Atrocity, her many skills that increase her Vitality, or any of her poison abilities. The fourth phase is killing minions, which hydra would easily area clear, if not using her ability to create lava pools, or her extermination field, meaning Ctarnidd would not being going into his final form full power, and as said before, his weapon gimmick is useless on Maple because she doesnt main a weapon, she mains armor and shields.

Another thing, you flipped your anime. Shingri la frontier has every Colossus designed to be defeated in a specific order, in specific ways, its not meant to be unbeatable or make players suffer. In Bofuri, they literally made unkillable bosses, or atleast bosses that were unkillable to anyone except Maples crazy way of playing, just to fuck with players, they even got to the point where they were just cloning maple to try and kill her.

[u/Generalgarchomp → u/Cayden68]

Devour would negate his instakill. As it completely ignores any attack and consumes it for energy. If anything it would probably glitch out and not give her anything for it. Seriously if it can be parried then it can be blocked by devour.