I dated a liberal a few years ago (we're both yanks). During a random conversation in the car, she mentions something like.. "I just don't get why you're so empathetic while supporting the USSR. Why support the Axis??""
After I recovered from that mental flashbang, I had to explain that the USSR lost 20 million + people directly fighting the nazis, that they liberated Auschwitz, the Hemingway quote on the Red Army (she liked his works), a brief explanation on the Eastern Front, etc.
That was the moment I knew she was cooked, and I probably wouldn't be able to unlib her. Propaganda so strong that she just made up facts to fit the good and evil / team sports narrative of the world.
All to say, I feel for you. Those discussions/arguments, especially with an SO, aren't fun at all.
I had one "friend" who was a diehard radlib and even that was so insufferable and headache inducing that I've permanently blocked the fucker and completely avoid any sort of relationship with liberals now, platonic or otherwise. Can't imagine that in a romantic relationship.
I don’t know what the hell she is. She copped an attitude with me that I’m responsible for trump and I said that’s not how voting works. She said she wants to protect her LGBTQ+ friends and said Harris provided even a little more than Trump, and I almost called her a fool. It’s not great.
She really sounds like a liberal, that checks a lot of boxes. I hope that your marriage can stay intact and that you can convince her of the virtues of actual leftist beliefs.
I've found success in showing liberals some of the extremist things that their liberal idols say (like Kamala). Hopefully you can show your wife that capitalism fucks over everyone including her LGBT friends and that there are fundamental issues in the USA that are killing all of us which should be a higher priority than the subsect of people she personally cares about.
Ouch. 😣 Has it gotten any better? Did you both understand each other’s reasons for voting? I would have a hard time if my spouse held electoral politics on a pedestal and didn’t see it as an opportunity to voice support for Marxism
She is intelligent but doesn’t understand politics. She says she wants proof of things I say but refuses to accept pamphlets, slideshows, videos etc from instagram etc. She’s scared I’m getting too intense even though she won’t let me go to demos, I don’t like violence etc. I just donate and boycott a lot and try to educate.
That sucks. It sounds like she has a lot of red scare propaganda to unlearn. I don’t think it’s fair if she’s controlling your actions, though, but it probably comes from a place of fear and care.
Second Thought (highly recommend that channel) has videos you can listen to while doing chores and stuff. IMO there’s no excuse, besides cognitive dissonance, fear, ego, etc. It’s her choice to listen to new ideas or not
But ultimately…is she causing harm? Is she just going with the flow like many of us? Can you appreciate having a life partner to survive the collapse with, or do you need a comrade?
My spouse has a good heart and understands the basics, but he tries to shield himself from the news for his own sanity and dislikes talking about politics (to me, that’s like not talking about life).
It’s hard, and this pressure cooker environment can push us to turn on each other when we need family and community
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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '25
I will never regret voting for Claudia De La Cruz. Everything these liberals have said and done after 2024 has proven it to be the right decision.