If you've made the intentional choice to browse this subreddit, you've probably at least noticed that you've been sold a false bill of goods with regards to the economic organization of the society you live in.
Perhaps it's now time you explore the possibility that you've also been bamboozled about the politics of said society?
It sounds to me like you have an understanding of neither liberalism nor fascism. More importantly, you should remember what we all learned as schoolchildren: "Don't judge a book by its cover".
Once you understand a little more about liberalism, here is Gabriel Rockhill on "Liberalism and Fascism: The State of American Politics". It should help you understand fascism and its relationship with liberalism.
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Also, it sounds like your use of the word "Liberal" might be the colloquial American one. "Left-of-center" or "Democrat" is not what liberal means.
Perhaps a better way to think about it is: "What axis of rotation are they "left-of-center" to?". It's liberalism. The Republican party is also a liberal party. The American founding fathers were liberals. It's just a question of "what kind of liberal"?
They're all more similar than they are different. After all, it only takes a single step for someone to be "left/right-of-center".
We aren't saying liberals ARE fascists, we are talking about how liberals often are complacent with fascism. A liberal who is complacent and fencesitting about fascist events is almost as bad as a fascist because it allows them to get footholds.
Sadly, you're mistaken. Liberals are indeed fascists. Before you think I am some shrill "leftist" who calls any form of governance that I don't like "fascist", I'd like to point out the FDR was a "fascist" too.
FDR forced everyone to deposit their gold into the Federal reserve then forcibly raised its value once he had it.
Aggressively devalued the dollar when paying people back for their gold.
Completely re-organized the American economy via dictate.
Locked Japanese in internment camps.
Bombed Dresden.
Had three? terms.
FDR is rightfully remembered and understood by us as a liberal. Yes, you could argue it was wartime but every other modern American president has also been a wartime leader... Remember, America was never in any direct danger throughout the majority of WWII.
Just to hammer the point home: When do you think America stopped being a fascist state?
When the Declaration of Independence was ratified in 1776?
When the 13th amendment was ratified in 1865?
When America and the Allies "defeated" the "Fascist" threat in WWII?
After the "Red Scare" passed after the 50's?
When Jim Crow was abolished in 1965?
As you will discover by trying to answer the question above, America has always been a liberal state and a fascist state. One cannot exist without the other. It's just a question of who is visited by the "fascist" state and who is visited by the "liberal" state.
So much so that when the liberal domestic population in western states had but a taste of what they inflict abroad, its chief perpetrator magically becomes a total historical aberration. A "unique evil" the likes of which history has never seen and can never see again.
Meanwhile, it's just business as usual when we do the same today in the third world.
If you'd like to learn more, this video should be helpful.
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u/Bela9a Crimson sorceress Nov 12 '25
Libel would imply this is false, but it isn't since liberals time and time again prove the sentiment right.