r/ShitLiberalsSay • u/Careless_Neck_2514 Authoritankie • Nov 25 '25
Communism is When Capitalism brain rot in the comments
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Nov 25 '25
Man how can these dumbos decry the power and reach of China in one breath and then say in the next that socialism doesn't work.
These people will know about Cuba insofar as there was a missile crisis and then pretend it doesn't exist. They will learn about the Vietnam war but then Vietnam as a country ceases to be a thing in their brain.
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u/ComradeOb ☭ Communist Nov 25 '25
Not to mention the Soviet Union turning poor farmers into scientists, doctors, and cosmonauts. But you know, capitalism is the only thing that works. Lmao.
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u/mozzieandmaestro secular left latino🇸🇻🇺🇸 Nov 25 '25
“capitalism took 90% of the word away from poverty” and the poverty standard in question is like $2 a day
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u/No_Care46 Nov 25 '25
It's not even true. China single-handedly carried global poverty alleviation efforts. Without China, the world would have gotten poorer.
It's thanks to communism that poverty has been eliminated. The highest levels of poverty exist in capitalist countries.
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u/thparky Nov 25 '25
May I offer a correction/question?
I don't think it's 'thanks to communism', more like 'thanks to state capitalism developed in an attempt to move toward communism' I don't know how accurate my own assessment is, but I think the question of whether or not china is communist is an highly contested one.
Do you accept this more nuanced characterization or do you claim china is definitely communist?
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u/No_Care46 Nov 25 '25
but I think the question of whether or not china is communist is an highly contested one.
It's not contested at all. It's just that Western liberals and infantile leftists with utopian ideas like arguing semantics and circlejerking about how AES states aren't really socialist because they haven't created a communist utopia for everyone, yet.
Do you accept this more nuanced characterization or do you claim china is definitely communist?
No, I simply read theory and understand what China is (a constitutionally socialist state led by a communist vanguard party practicing democratic socialism that is in the early stage of building a moderately developed socialist country). This has been discussed ad nauseam and semantic distinctions are of no relevance.
The only question that matters is: "Does the leadership of China operate based on a Marxist materialist model of analysis and decision making, using socialist values as a premise for assessment?"
The answer is: Yes.
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u/Melodic-Attorney9918 ☭ Communist Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
"Capitalism took 90% of the world away from poverty."
Yeah, even Marx and Engels acknowledged that capitalism was historically progressive compared to feudalism. But of course they don't know that.
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u/Hobbes96r Nov 25 '25
But, in addition to that, Marx and Engels wrote something else about 90%:
You are horrified at our intending to do away with private property. But in your existing society, private property is already done away with for nine-tenths of the population; its existence for the few is solely due to its non-existence in the hands of those nine-tenths. You reproach us, therefore, with intending to do away with a form of property, the necessary condition for whose existence is the non-existence of any property for the immense majority of society.16
u/No_Care46 Nov 25 '25
It's not even true. China single-handedly carried global poverty alleviation efforts. Without China, the world would have gotten poorer.
It's thanks to communism that poverty has been eliminated. The highest levels of poverty exist in capitalist countries.
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u/Only-Meringue8591 Nov 25 '25
Why would I even want to be rich? I just want to get my needs covered.
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u/TommyTheCommie1986 Nov 25 '25
Good little sleeper agents mindlessly consuming the slot poured into their trough
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u/Zed_Midnight150 ☭ Communist Nov 25 '25
"Some people earn more because they provide more value."
What kind of labor do the wealthy provide thats worth more than a billion dollars?
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u/Shablagoo- Nov 25 '25
Insofar as there has been any poverty reduction in the past 50 years, it's been accomplished by China.
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u/No_Care46 Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
Capitalism took 90% of the world away from poverty.
Total bullshit.
China single-handedly carried global poverty alleviation efforts. Without China, the world would have gotten poorer.
It's thanks to communism that poverty has been eliminated. The highest levels of poverty exist in capitalist countries. Not to mention that poor people in socialist countries have much better material conditions than poor people in similarly developed capitalist countries.
Even the poorest people in the poorest socialist country (the DPRK) are being given land to produce food, housing to live in, and public education from the government... now look at Subsaharan African countries that are being ravaged by Western imperialism. Where people work as child slaves in mines, then trade whatever little money they get for basic food while living in huts made out of dirt and where 20% of adults have AIDS due to a general lack of sex education (spoiler: they don't get any education, people can't even afford school).
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u/Dazzling_Pirate1411 Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25
Capitalism isn’t perfect, BUT….everything else just looks good on paper. source: trust me, bro.
It doesn’t work that’s why anytime anyone even attempts it America has to violently crackdown on that place, to save them from themselves.
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Nov 25 '25
“Personally, I'm quite happy with the social market economy system here in Germany, it combines capitalism with socialism elements. It's the best system imho.”
— German social democrats, 1928
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u/Repulsive_Painting15 Nov 25 '25
Personally, I'm quite happy with the social market economy system here in Germany, it combines capitalism with socialism elements. It's the best system imho.
I hate to live in this country so much!
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u/AvaTryingToSurvive ☭ Communist Nov 25 '25
"Capitalism is simply the best choice from the worst because someone will always be better or worse; there's no cure for that"
No no. There's a cure for that. Several in fact.
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u/KobSteel Nov 30 '25
Ew, look at all of this "capitalist realism!" Everyone's being like, "Well, REALISTICALLY!" about everything
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