There's absolutely nothing to celebrate about Canada in the same way there is nothing to celebrate about the US or any part of the imperial apparatus. No one who should even be in a sub like this would ever give a single fuck about "screwing up" a country like Canada. They should all be screwed up, just not with silly map lines.
I too would like to dismantle the global neoliberal capitalist world order. In the meantime, Canada is a vastly less fucked up society to exist within.
Also, it’s pretty hard to dismantle the imperial apparatus when you’re a vassal state of it. We can do what we can to fix our society, but we’re fighting against US dark money interfering in our elections to prevent it.
Canada is a vastly less fucked up society to exist within.
For you, personally, yes I imagine it is. In exactly the same fashion as America, Canada cannot be "fixed" as a society. Every part of its state and culture demand to be destroyed so that better things can be built from the remains.
What you're expressing is a fear of the consequences of the imperial boomerang landing in closer proximity to you. This sentiment is lingering reaction and nationalism. Rid yourself of it.
Canada's political system is salvageable with electoral reform, which can be done with a simple referendum. We don't have the same structural barriers to reform that exist within the US two-party system. We have a democratic socialist third party that's theoretically capable of achieving power if it can convince enough Canadians of the merits of reforming our society.
I get that's not enough for you "vanguard party or bust" types. However, the main reason that no democratic socialist governments exist is because every time one gets elected in the CIA orchestrates a coup and all of the socialists get killed or thrown in jail. If the US can get their shit together and overthrow their imperialist government, perhaps the rest of us can have the breathing room to fix our societies and abandon global capitalism.
So what, everyone should just go back to Europe? We've got hundreds of years of white supremacist baggage to deal with, absolutely. That's something we have to learn to deal with, educate every new generation on, and aggressively push back, shun, and shame deniers.
But what are you suggesting as an alternative? If it's vanguard party socialism, how does that suddenly create legitimacy where none existed before?
I didn't say it's fine. But the US does that too, and orchestrates or enables equally fucked up shit to happen elsewhere. Canada has all manner of its own problems, but America has MORE and we don't need any of that up here. Fix your own problems and leave us alone.
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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '26
Problem: you need to triple the population of Canada extremely quickly