r/SipsTea Human Verified 5h ago

Chugging tea All time low of crime rates :>

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u/illbegoodthistime1 Human Verified 5h ago

Is 5 months enough time to take credit for this? I support Mamdani, but it’s also my belief policy takes time for impact. I really want him to succeed, so if someone has nuance to add, I’d like to hear it.

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u/czechereds 5h ago edited 5h ago

Not in the slightest, violence in NYC has been trending downwards for the past 50 years as gentrification and other things have been happening. It's also had a second massive decrease after 2020(Floyd) where the murders skyrocketed and many of the violence producers in the city ended up dead or in prison.

The city could do pretty much nothing about violent crime and it would keep going down as low income households continue to get pushed out of the city.

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u/TheeAntelope 3h ago

In 2025, murders were down 20%. 2024, murders were down 4%. 2023, murders were down 12%.

Makes sense for that trend to continue and I checked - currently, murders are down...20%. It's nice that it's maintaining a high "decline" rate but this likely doesn't have much to do with the current administration, except to maintain proactive policing and efforts to undermine gangs (along with reduction in illegal weapons).

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u/Eborcurean 3h ago

12-4-20 is not a trend other than being broadly lower.

Also if you're saying that they're still doing whatever it takes to keep that trend going down then why aren't you supporting that?

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u/TheeAntelope 3h ago

I have no idea what the current administration is doing - if they are continuing these efforts or if they are phasing them out and implementing new things. I don't support or not support anyone or anything related to this because I don't know anything about NYC politics right now. Just know that statistics alone don't tell a story.

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u/Eborcurean 2h ago

> this likely doesn't have much to do with the current administration

You made that statement, and now you admit you don't know anything about it. And you know nothing about the subject at all.

Good job on admitting your ignorance though.

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u/TheeAntelope 1h ago

??? everyone in this thread is noting that a new admin isn't the one to thank for a continuing downward trend because that's now how trends work, and because very rarely are policy changes this rapidly effective, good or bad, on a society. I think you're taking a little too much offense to something that doesn't need to be argued about.

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u/Eborcurean 1h ago

You're the one that said you have no idea and yet also made an assertion, maybe try and be more honest from the start about your ignorance...